[quote]Professor X wrote:
I sure am…which is why they call me “doctor”.
Wait, you think dentists went to school and avoided learning about the entire body?[/quote]
Look my brother is a dentist so I have nothing against them or the schooling you had to go through to get there. You certainly did put in your time and are clearly a smart person. I would not however expect you to be an expert on the whole body.
[quote]jdub85 wrote:
Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.
Sounds like we have some Anti-Dentites here…[/quote]
No, just ignorant.
Tip: If the guy can legally prescribe medications that require a prescription, they are a doctor.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I sure am…which is why they call me “doctor”.
Wait, you think dentists went to school and avoided learning about the entire body?
Look my brother is a dentist so I have nothing against them or the schooling you had to go through to get there. You certainly did put in your time and are clearly a smart person. I would not however expect you to be an expert on the whole body.[/quote]
Most docs aren’t experts on the whole body. That is why there are SPECIALISTS. Brain Surgeons aren’t doing full exam work ups in an ER.
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
No but they sure like to jump to conclusions
The time where it’ll be launched is undefined, but it’s not been cancelled. But the program is high-performance, warnings have been given that if you don’t follow the peri-workout protocols it’ll lead to burnout. Even Sebastien Cossette as well as Kevin were put “in shape” before the program.
So my advice, and I’m sure others’ advice here will be to stay away from this program until you have recovered a great deal of your workload capacity. I’m dropping right now, will be finishing in sept 16 but I’ll give myself like other 4 or 6 weeks to recover some size and gain as much strength as I can.
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Thank you for that reply, it was much more helpful 
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
300andabove wrote:
Powerlifter following I, BODYBUILDER…
confused
Why not use Wendlers 5/3/1 with Cephs bodybuilding template ?
I lost 25 pounds due to being in the hospital for 2 weeks and I can’t lift heavy for 6 weeks post surgery. After the 6 weeks they doc’s don’t want me powerlifting for a few more months so to get my weight back up and to try something new I wanted to give this a shot.
This makes no sense.
You can’t “powerlift” for months…but in your mind, serious bodybuilding training is somehow less intense?
Wow.
Aren’t bodybuilders weak half-assers?
No but they sure like to jump to conclusions [/quote]
Well, what about this. Why can you bodybuild but not powerlift? I know that isn’t necessarily the point of the thread, but for the sake of clearing things up, it would be nice to know.
Granted, if the surgery were to prevent you from using REALLY heavy weights and allow for kinda heavy weights, then that makes sense.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
jdub85 wrote:
Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.
Sounds like we have some Anti-Dentites here…
No, just ignorant.
Tip: If the guy can legally prescribe medications that require a prescription, they are a doctor.[/quote]
Good point, can you hook us up?
Kidding.
Ok this thread went to shit real fast lol.
As i said anyways hope you recover soon… i’ll leave you to the forumites
Give CrewPierce a break! He’s stuck in the hospital and trying to mentally plan how to undo what’s happened over the past week or so.
CrewPierce, I hope this means you’re on the road to recovery now.
To the OP, can your doctor (or body for that matter) really tell the difference between an hours “hardcore” power lifting training or an hours “hardcore bodyboiduling” training?
[quote]debraD wrote:
Give CrewPierce a break! He’s stuck in the hospital and trying to mentally plan how to undo what’s happened over the past week or so. [/quote]
That’s why “I, BODYBUILDER”, in this case, could do more harm than good.
[quote]debraD wrote:
Charged wrote:
…Im 100% sure that you are not qualified to be a doctor, stop trying to sound better then you are, your basically a first year student of human biology.
It’s quite silly to argue this point. In North America, Dentists are considered Doctors and to my understanding, in Britain they are not. ( resisting urge to make joke about British teeth…) 
But seriously, it’s just a cultural difference.
Give CrewPierce a break! He’s stuck in the hospital and trying to mentally plan how to undo what’s happened over the past week or so.
CrewPierce, I hope this means you’re on the road to recovery now. [/quote]
On the first point, most dentists from other countries would have to either get re-credentialed here or go back to school. I would rate America’s education system in that area as the best in the world.
On the second point, I am really just surprised he thought I, BODYBUILDER sounded like a great thing for someone recovering who has been basically told to avoid heavy lifting.
I am still wondering how he ONLY related this specifically to powerlifting.
Your right, im wrong, One rep maxes are GREAT for rehab.
[quote]jdub85 wrote:
Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.
Sounds like we have some Anti-Dentites here…[/quote]
Dude you suck,My mom is a dentist and my dad a psychiatrist and sure as hell that they know a LOOT of things about the human body,not just about the teeth or just about the mind, and respect the older and more experienced members who ARE TRYING TO HELP!
[quote]jdub85 wrote:
Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.
Sounds like we have some Anti-Dentites here…[/quote]
Lol, I caught the reference.
[quote]Charged wrote:
Your right, im wrong, One rep maxes are GREAT for rehab.[/quote]
But how is a hardcore bodybuilding program good for rehab?
If my doctor told me I couldn’t play tennis for 6 months only squash (or racquetball for those who don’t know squash) I would be equally confused.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I sure am…which is why they call me “doctor”.
Wait, you think dentists went to school and avoided learning about the entire body?
Look my brother is a dentist so I have nothing against them or the schooling you had to go through to get there. You certainly did put in your time and are clearly a smart person. I would not however expect you to be an expert on the whole body.
Most docs aren’t experts on the whole body. That is why there are SPECIALISTS. Brain Surgeons aren’t doing full exam work ups in an ER.[/quote]
Ok…I agree with you here. Which is why I am confused because my GI doctor and surgeon said “avoid heavy deadlifts for a few months otherwise you risk a hernia” so that leaves one of the three lifts of powerlifting out for me.
So I figured OK, I’ll switch to bodybuilding for a few months using machines more and not focusing on the deadlift when some dentist tells me I’m an idiot for even asking about a bodybuilding workout.
All I wanted to know was if the program is still alive and instead I get shit on by some hot head.
We don’t even know the basic outline of the I, BODYBUILDER so how do you know what I can and can’t do Professor?
Sorry Doc, er Professor X, you do NOT have the training of a medical doctor because you took two years of medical school classes. You have a RELATIVELY greater degree of knowledge of the human body than most–that’s all. I personally know a couple of DDS’s–I sure as hell wouldn’t take medical advice from them, nor would they be arrogant enough to offer it (not that you were).
No one said that bodybuilding was less “intense” than powerlifting–just that it utilizes different techniques. After all, maximum hypertrophy takes different techniques than maximum strength development. I don’t know of any bodybuilders that regularly lift at as high a percentage of their 1RM as most powerlifters do. IT’S ALL RELATIVE.
So, if some guy wants to put back on some muscle mass (which can include total sarcoplasmic hypertrophy) rather than be concerned, at the moment, with maximum strength development, why get your (posing) panties all in a bunch.
Go ask David Tate who trained with more intensity (when he was competing)–himself or the average (even professional) bodybuilder. No, I’m not talking about the exceptions in bodybuilding (such as Ronnie Coleman) who come from a powerlifting background.
Crowbar
Nice post crowbar, fact is, its about damage on his joints and bones, bodybuilding wouldnt have so much stress in those areas.
[quote]crowbar46 wrote:
Sorry Doc, er Professor X, you do NOT have the training of a medical doctor because you took two years of medical school classes. You have a RELATIVELY greater degree of knowledge of the human body than most–that’s all. I personally know a couple of DDS’s–I sure as hell wouldn’t take medical advice from them, nor would they be arrogant enough to offer it (not that you were).[/quote]
I didn’t write that I was trained to be a medical doctor. I wrote that I am a dentist, that dentists are educated ON THE ENTIRE HUMAN BODY (we dissect the cadaver first year along with the med students), and that dentists IN AMERICA are DOCTORS.
If you don’t know this to be true, then educate yourself.
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No one said that bodybuilding was less “intense” than powerlifting–just that it utilizes different techniques. After all, maximum hypertrophy takes different techniques than maximum strength development. I don’t know of any bodybuilders that regularly lift at as high a percentage of their 1RM as most powerlifters do. IT’S ALL RELATIVE.
So, if some guy wants to put back on some muscle mass (which can include total sarcoplasmic hypertrophy) rather than be concerned, at the moment, with maximum strength development, why get your (posing) panties all in a bunch.
Go ask David Tate who trained with more intensity (when he was competing)–himself or the average (even professional) bodybuilder. No, I’m not talking about the exceptions in bodybuilding (such as Ronnie Coleman) who come from a powerlifting background.
Crowbar[/quote]
It makes zero sense to use a program designed to be extremely intense if someone is instructed to avoid heavy lifting.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
Damn, thats a pet peeve of mine. Physicians do not corner the market on being “doctors”. Physicians have doctorates and are doctors…so do dentists…so do vets…so do pharmacists, etc. [/quote]
Agreed, as do people who reach high enough education levels of every field.