are you generally speaking for woman?
I donāt speak for either sex. I speak about them.
Is it @EmilyQ 's opinions or the modern femaleās opinions that turn the tide for men getting chicks? what should women be looking for in a guy? rather than what they think they should be looking for?
Itās a combination of several societal factors, including both menās and womenās behaviors.
I think if you canāt get āsomeoneā then the onus is on you. The individual clearly has issues that need to be sorted out.
Saying that, I find many men in the states are the ones actually lowering their standards to avoid being alone.
The current climate caused by these primary factors:
- economical
- social (social media in particular)
- cultural engineering (by way of modern feminism)
are all going against men. I find this to be a problem. I presume we will only see an increase in young males with mental health issues because of it. Itās not just about āfindingā someone for the majority of males out there, it is finding someone they are genuinely attracted to.
<This is my opinion, based on my own assumptions and observation, and I am open to being totally wrong>
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-Ugly chicks are cheap dates?
-Men suck at photos? (good thing Iām married my Social media game is poor).
- Feminism is controlling the direction of our American culture?
Do you think woman are out performing men in society?
In some contexts they are, which is not a matter of opinion. The stats are out there.
Huh?
I think if things are going the way they are going youāll have a complete reversal of roles. It may work for some smaller countries in Scandinavia but I highly doubt it will work in an image based, consumerist society like the U.S
If @greenboy and I were dreaming shit up, there wouldnāt be books like this being published. I have this one. Though I donāt like all of what the author wrote, he at least recognizes a problem.
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Nah. I just like zinging you a little. Itās like, our thing now. Me and you have a thing now.
You know a lot about being gay. Glad we got our thing established before anybody else got their hooks into you.
You think Em will be jelly?
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Iām laughing, because although I know what it is, the incel movement is not something that ever really comes to mind for me. I may even have had to look it up when others brought it up in response to you.
As for your question, an advantage men in the US have over some places, though not all, is that they are able to make themselves into whatever they choose, with the only absolute limitations being disability (mental or physical) or low intelligence. Few places allow for the kind of social mobility available in the States.
You want a Hollywood starlet? My friend you can have one; all it takes is money and/or power.
Or you can make yourself pleasing to prospective others to win someone in your socioeconomic strata.
Easy-peasy.
I believe the other side, the side calling for an end to masculinity, also has books. Does that make them right?
pound for pound when controlling to isolate only that ill defined of variables that is āpicking upā, yes women will have an easier time considering sheās in the smaller group relative to the population of potential candidates ā¦ ie sheās more scarce holding all else equal and normalizing what āpick upā actually is ā¦ lots of assumption here though
Also
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Not necessarily right or wrong. Iām sure I can find some plausible points or observations in the books you refer to, even though I donāt want to see an end to masculinity. Iāve read books from my āsideā and I can relate to them from personal experience and observation. I actually read the book shown and paid attention to references when reading such books.
Did you read them? Are you assuming the books, blogs, articles and podcasts I refer to have no plausible points and observations?
You know, Iāve sincerely apologized to and complimented you and liked some of your posts. With that said, though I donātwant it to be true, I canāt help but feel you are dismissive and patronizing at times, especially in this post to grown men. Iād prefer to be wrong on this one. I wouldnāt dismiss you for paying attention to female matters considering youāre female and especially because although I can empathize to a degree, I canāt do so in a way a woman can. But I believe you sometimes speak to us in a dismissive tone because we empathize with men for mensā issues. Iāve noticed trends and read and listen to material that hits home with me, for whatever reason, some of which is produced by men I believe are far wiser than Iāll ever be, including some academicians, including on other topics.
The guy clearly told you he doesnāt want advice and then you go on to talk about goal achievement.
I donāt understand. Maybe you can explain. Speaking of maturity. I donāt know How to express this in a more mature way. Iām apologizing in advance if this comes across in an unintended confrontational way because thatās not my intention.
In this instance I think she was speaking to U.S men in general compared to others from around the world, and not to me directly, but she still comes off dismissive nonetheless.
You talk like someone from 50 years ago. The U.S is hardly the only place that allows for mobility, even second and third tier countries have mobility, it is the modern global economy. (and hasnāt mobility taken a generational hit?? like a big one? this generation of kids in the U.S will do less than their parents. Iāll have to double check that)
There are some sections of the population that canāt just move up that ladder, someone born into poverty in some third world country, I guess. So on that front you have a point.
I wonder if youād be comfortable with a matriarchal structure in the U.S?
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One thing I never understood about Incels is why on Earth did they choose that name for themselves?
Why would you give your collective a title that is that off putting? It instantly makes outsiders think youāre a bunch of losers.
Literally anything is better than Incels. Hell, even Women are Cunts (WAC) is significantly superior.
I think the term was made by a woman on an anxiety forum who had no clue it would become a phenomenon.
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