Where Can I Meet More Mature People?

It can be a catalyst for anger. I don’t believe it can make one angry.

In the converse, plenty of men without women aren’t bitter or angry.

is it the woman’s fault that the man is womanless?

You mean a particular woman making a man womanless? I say no. No woman has to say yes to any man’s advance. But you know this.

Likely those who don’t care about having women.

Yes, control of desires is certainly a helpful quality. Also those who deprioritize that need.

What about Men seeking men? who is underachieving then?

I have often said this is the more fair comparison. As far as quality goes, I imagine men and women are about on equal footing regarding obtaining romantic partnership with men.

Can you please frame your questions clearer?

[what about men seeking men? Who is under achieving then?]

[Better? ]

I don’t get your question either.

Aren’t we discussing the current climate of female and male interaction In the United States? How does homosexual relationships play into this?

Well considering you’re referring to a single gender there is no “underachieving” gender. Women make the final call in heterosexual courtship. So the dynamic is totally different.

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Are we concluding that it’s easier for women to pick up guys? Is that their fault? whose fault is it then?
probably our President it’s always the President’s fault.

Why can’t women approach guys, and have the first call?

I said final call.

I attempted to discuss this in the other thread but people lost their minds…

I tried to point out the fact that in the U.S right now women are too focused on their jobs, willingly or not. This is having a detrimental effect on their appearance, creating a void of good looking women after a certain age. So this is causing men in the States to lower their standards in order to find someone, at least this is what I am noticing.

Approaching an attractive female these days you better be damn well confident of your financial security, your appearance, your humor, because their demands are sky high. As they should be right? Since they are few and far between.

The entire thread had a collective meltdown when I made this point before. But go ahead and make the same judgement call on the homosexual communities vanity, no one would bat a fucking eye!

But if women give the first call and the Man consents doesn’t that mean the man had the final call in courtship? You are omitting the woman’s right to first calls by saying they can only consent.

Interesting. what country do you hail from? I am sure I can look for it but save me some time bruh

I’m in the U.S but I spend a significant time in South America.

EDIT: to continue on the homosexual point… men are visual creatures, this is how they approach prospective partners at first. You don’t need to go any further than the gay scene to notice this. This is why most men in that realm are in pretty darn good shape.

Now try and apply this logic to heterosexuals in the West. You’ll have modern females and their white knights baseball bat you over the fucking head while calling you a sexist incel to then give you dating advice @EmilyQ @SkyzykS

I speak generally.