Where Can I Meet More Mature People?

It wasn’t that bad, I got through a whole 10 minutes…

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I Like to lift weights

It if true some don’t have to think much about it. For others, they’ll have no choice but to think much about it.

You’ll have to elaborate a bit on this point - I’m not aware of a scenario where someone does NOT have a choice to think - if helps you, I’m thinking in terms of active, deep thinking versus superficial passive thinking with a liberal use of heuristics and assumptions.

Based off what I observe in the populace, I imagine the contingent of folks that have no choice but to think about anything is incredibly small.

I said think much, as in a lot.

Correct. I am stating people don’t think enough.

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As said , there are some men who for whatever reason simply go about their business and there are available women around. There are also men who for whatever reason can’t get a date. The latter will be thinking of the issue of landing a woman quite often, maybe even giving it deep thought.

This is true, and can be applied to almost any aspect of life.

Someone doing something they love gets rich without thinking about being rich, others work and think about being rich all day long because they aren’t getting rich etc etc etc

The problem that I have with this in conjunction with this:

Is that the men (presumably) in your forced-to-think-deeply group seem to spend their time nursing their bitternesses rather than their options, or at least the ones I’ve encountered. This is the problem others have with @greenboy. People are sharing their successes, which are hard-won in some cases, in order to “help the next one in line,” but this only seems to spur more bitterness.

To keep affirming one another in believing that the deck is stacked against them, to push away earnest tips and strategies, to mulishly hold to their soul-crushing beliefs when offered evidence to contradict it…why?

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You said bitterness. I didn’t. You also said anger several times in another thread. I didn’t.

Some guy going years without meeting women might not be bitter or have no ill feelings towards anyone! He might simply be lonely and depressed. It’s akin to a lack of money. Someone constantly strapped for money will be thinking of it often.

I don’t think about dating and meeting people because I am married, have a kid, another due any day, and friends. If I didn’t, I’d be one sad dude. Angry? Perhaps, which might include anger towards myself.

As stated elsewhere, my retired therapist told me more than once he had grown men in their 30s and 40s crying in his office because they didn’t propose marriage to women who clearly wanted to marry them in the past and since not committing, didn’t find another match again.

If I recall correctly, @greenboy has said over and over again that he doesn’t want your or anyone else’s advice and you’ve assumed he does.

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You don’t present as bitter, but the men with whom you empathize do. The ones claiming that western women are angry harridans who misrepresent themselves online with impunity because “thirsty” men are forced to tolerate it. The ones claiming that things have changed for the worse in the USA, which can be traced back to toxic feminism, which hates men while simultaneously fostering the belief in women that they’re all 10’s.

My only suggestion for you is to consider that when men who

Should view the people choosing to answer as helpers, rather than as self-congratulating braggarts. But they seem not to (and this has been going on for years here, long before greenboy), choosing instead to bring the same negative, critical, embattled attitude to people trying to offer encouragement. Like, “Fuck off with your stupid ‘this really worked for me’ advice, you self-promoting jerk!”

As for greenboy, sure, he’s said over and over again that he doesn’t want advice, he’s doing JUST FINE, but he has all these weird views, which do not support “doing fine,” and I think others are compelled to dispute them because they’re so malignant and contrary to what the others have encountered.

Women slightly outnumber men in the US, don’t they? So the advice is a real gift to men who can’t land a woman, whether greenboy himself or someone silently reading along.

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@EmilyQ

You know what I find interesting about you Emily? Is that not for you second do you entertain the possibility that I’m actually correct, and you keep piling me into the incel movement, which I have repeated about 100x now not to do, because I am not involuntarily celibate. I think this is why people here keep trying to give me advice when I tell them I don’t want their advice, because despite some of their advice being perfectly fine and helpful for those seeking it, I already said I don’t need it.

So try and focus for a second -i’m going to ask you to tell me what advantages a man in the U.S has in finding a woman over it being the other way around. And if you have been to other countries, say Latin American countries, what advantages do American men, have in the U.S over those men in those countries? Pure curiosity of what you may come up with.

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:joy: That’s precious! You keep at buddy. Whether you land one some day or not, at least you’re trying!

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With romance, sex, and marriage, they have. And actually, many scholars who are studying such matters are married and well-off, not bitter.

And as said elsewhere, womanless men are often bitter and angry. That’s simply how many men feel when womanless. That happens with biological drives unmet. You don’t eat, you get hungry. When tired, you need to sleep. When threatened, you escape or fight. And so on and so on.

I still like lifting weights.

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I must have stepped on some toes. Hit hard some of my points, did they? Awwww.

Or perhaps it is the case that bitter and angry men are often womanless…

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Both. Context plays a role as well as the overall makeup of the person. Plenty of men with lousy tempers have women.

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Not having a woman can make one angry in itself.

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