When Is It Child Abuse?

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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This is sort of a spinoff from the GAL forum.

at what point is what a parent feeds their kid (or not getting them active) child abuse?

Few would argue that feeding fast food to kids is child abuse, but I’ve never seen any frequency brought up by this idea.

Myself, while I find it “attention grabbing” to feel the above is abuse, topped with my strong disdain for the fast food industry, I wouldn’t label it as such, unless the frequency was a normal behavior, that’d be tough to pinpoint though.

However, would anyone here agree with me that feeding a kid food (lack of activity too) to where they develop a disease such as type 2 diabetes as child abuse? There’s a reason that it used to be called adult onset, but things are so out of hand now that it’s no longer called that. And it’s the food/activity that’s the problem, not genetics.

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it makes me want to cry when I see obviously overweight kids. Their parents are setting them up for a very difficult life. Seems to be becoming a lot more common these days. I also agree with you in that kids should be fed the highest quality food possible. Just bribe them with the treats once in a while.

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What gets me though is even if a child is of normal weight, does feeding such foods not do damage? It’s absurd to think no, whether that’s physically or mentally (as far as addiction) goes later in life.

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This problem is pretty complex.

It’s one thing to talk about abusing kids according to what they are fed.

Then there is the issue about what people can afford, both time-wise and monetarily. Timewise I’m thinking a single parent working two jobs (I grew up in one of these).

I think most parents who can afford to feed their kids properly do so out of just not knowing any better, or not understanding the down the road consequences. There are also lazy people, these people I don’t quite understand, one thing to let yourself go, but another to knowingly endanger your children.

Then there are those who struggle to afford food, but are otherwise good parents. Imagine a situation where a parent can either feed their children like thoroughbreds, or they can pay tuition to a private school and feed them big n tasty’s. I think the good parent educates their kids, just saying it’s complicated.

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The food itself isn’t that great of quality, but the problem isn’t necessarily the food itself, it’s the over-eating.

A big-mac can’t give you diabetes if your BMI is 18.

Is feeding your kid fast-food child abuse? No. Is over-feeding your kid child abuse? I could see the argument for that. An eight year old doesn’t need 2500 calories a day, especially if all they do is Facebook and youtube all day.

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[quote]TigerTime wrote:
The food itself isn’t that great of quality, but the problem isn’t necessarily the food itself, it’s the over-eating.

A big-mac can’t give you diabetes if your BMI is 18.
[/quote]

Oh yes it can.

And those are the hardest to convince that they must change.

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If virtually ALL a kid is given to eat is takeaway food etc, then yeah, I’d say that’s a form of abuse/neglect.

At what point is it right/appropriate to intervene in some way…I dunno…ideally sometime before the kid can barely WADDLE half a mile without looking like they are about to have a heart attack.

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You’re joking right?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

You’re joking right?[/quote]

Do you have kids? If not, kindly piss off.

No, I’m not joking.

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[quote]StevenF wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

You’re joking right?[/quote]

Do you have kids? If not, kindly piss off.

No, I’m not joking. [/quote]

Wow, how polite.

Yes I have kids. Two in fact. 14 and 6 months. And no, I don’t treat them like dogs.

EDIT: 14 years, and closer to 7 months now

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
This is sort of a spinoff from the GAL forum.

at what point is what a parent feeds their kid (or not getting them active) child abuse?

Few would argue that feeding fast food to kids is child abuse, but I’ve never seen any frequency brought up by this idea.

Myself, while I find it “attention grabbing” to feel the above is abuse, topped with my strong disdain for the fast food industry, I wouldn’t label it as such, unless the frequency was a normal behavior, that’d be tough to pinpoint though.

However, would anyone here agree with me that feeding a kid food (lack of activity too) to where they develop a disease such as type 2 diabetes as child abuse? There’s a reason that it used to be called adult onset, but things are so out of hand now that it’s no longer called that. And it’s the food/activity that’s the problem, not genetics. [/quote]

Like I tried to tell you in the other thread, but you refuse to listen because it doesn’t fit into your nice neat little assumptive box that is your perspective:

The problem you are concerned with goes a lot deeper than food choice. It has a fuck ton more to it than diet.

But you’ll refuse to see that, again, so I’ll save my fingers the wear and tear of typing it out.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

You’re joking right?[/quote]

Do you have kids? If not, kindly piss off.

No, I’m not joking. [/quote]

Wow, how polite.

Yes I have kids. Two in fact. 14 and 6 months. And no, I don’t treat them like dogs.

EDIT: 14 years, and closer to 7 months now[/quote]

Look I’m not judging you or saying you are a shitty parent. I just think your word choice may be poor.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

You’re joking right?[/quote]

Do you have kids? If not, kindly piss off.

No, I’m not joking. [/quote]

Wow, how polite.

Yes I have kids. Two in fact. 14 and 6 months. And no, I don’t treat them like dogs.

EDIT: 14 years, and closer to 7 months now[/quote]

My apologies I assumed you were another one of those armchair parents. I suppose you could liken rewarding good behavior and punishing bad behavior to training a dog as they are essentially the same concepts. Are you trying to say you never reward your kid for good behavior and punish for bad?

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Yes Bribe may not be the best word but a bribe is basically offering an incentive to achieve a desired result is it not?

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[quote]StevenF wrote:
Yes Bribe may not be the best word but a bribe is basically offering an incentive to achieve a desired result is it not? [/quote]

Yeah it is, and yes I reward and punish.

It really is the word bribe that bothers me, lol.

I didn’t mean to be a jackass with the picture.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:
Yes Bribe may not be the best word but a bribe is basically offering an incentive to achieve a desired result is it not? [/quote]

Yeah it is, and yes I reward and punish.

It really is the word bribe that bothers me, lol.

I didn’t mean to be a jackass with the picture.[/quote]

So, being weak and caving in to a kid is fine by you, but bribing is bad, gotcha.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:
Yes Bribe may not be the best word but a bribe is basically offering an incentive to achieve a desired result is it not? [/quote]

Yeah it is, and yes I reward and punish.

It really is the word bribe that bothers me, lol.

I didn’t mean to be a jackass with the picture.[/quote]

So, being weak and caving in to a kid is fine by you, but bribing is bad, gotcha.[/quote]

You, to those of us that have kids, sound like an idiot right now, just an FYI.

You can insult me and judge me all you want. You can keep trying to put words in my mouth as well. It really doesn’t change that you don’t know what you are talking about.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:
Yes Bribe may not be the best word but a bribe is basically offering an incentive to achieve a desired result is it not? [/quote]

Yeah it is, and yes I reward and punish.

It really is the word bribe that bothers me, lol.

I didn’t mean to be a jackass with the picture.[/quote]

So, being weak and caving in to a kid is fine by you, but bribing is bad, gotcha.[/quote]

You, to those of us that have kids, sound like an idiot right now, just an FYI.

You can insult me and judge me all you want. You can keep trying to put words in my mouth as well. It really doesn’t change that you don’t know what you are talking about. [/quote]

Put words in your mouth? I’m essentially quoting you. There are plenty of people that feel the way I do that it’s ridiculous to cave into kids… People on here and the media are always saying it’s the parents responsibility to not let their kids eat junk too often, it’s the parents fault when kids are overweight, not the fast food companies.

From the way you’re talking, it’s almost impossible to put your foot down in such a scenario if the kid is being a big enough pain. Whether that’s right or wrong who knows, but you’re apparently part of the argument about personal responsibility and food industry.

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btw- can you at least answer the original question? In your opinion when is it child abuse? Or is this something that can’t really be labeled as such no matter the outcome? Serious question, not being smart with that.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

Put words in your mouth? I’m essentially quoting you.[/quote]

You have not one fucking clue as to what do or don’t feed my children on a daily basis. What they are allowed as treats and what they allowed as regular meals.

So no, you dumb fuck, you aren’t quoting a god damn thing. You are judging me because I’m reminding you you don’t have a single fucking clue what you are talking about, because you don’t have a single instant of persepctive on what being a parent in 2000 fucking 12 takes.

You are insulting me, calling me weak, judging me on shit you have no idea about, and then trying to say I am the one saying it.

So you can take you “essentially quoting you” and shove it up your trolling ass.

You want to know why you can’t comprehend what I’m saying? Because you don’t have any experience being a father. You are ignorant. And you are clung to the narrow little assumptive box you made for your perspective. So of corse you can’t understand what I am saying.

And in case you were wondering, you don’t, for one instant understand my position on the topic.