Having the freedom to use your own judgement as to whether or not you want to go to a restaurant with friends is totally worth it. Everybody is aware as shit. Some people don’t do well being quarantined indefinitely. People should have the right to make their own decisions. We don’t need parental guidance from the government, we need our rights protected by the government. That’s their job.
A 2 week lock down would have been ok, but in some places it’s never ending.
The protests and inextricably linked to this problem, because where you cannot go to a restaurant you can gather in a massive crowd and chant, spit and yell ‘BLM’.
With that paradox going on, you are not saving any lives by keeping restaurants or bars or churches closed. Either open everything or ban the protests too.
If you want to argue lock downs, that means protests of any kind, too. Or you open.
All I want is equal treatment under the law. Equal dispensing of laws.
Honestly, I don’t think it’s feasible given the political climate. A minor inconvenience that is the mask turns some people into lunatics.
He’s still in the hospital. The situation is supposedly stable and the fever is down. As far as we can tell, he looks horrible but he’s still cracking jokes over Skype and anecdotal evidence from the calls indicate that he’s coughing less. He’s on oxygen and is being given HCQ.
Seatbelts? Drunk driving?
Yes, had every state instituted them simultaneously.
Someone gave me a cloth mask, it’s much better. The space between threads is actually wide enough where I am not breathing my own breath. It’s ineffective as fuck, needless to say but I am not suffocating and exhaling on my eye balls.
How many civil liberties were suspended to fight those diseases?
I don’t mind spending money to solve a pandemic. I didn’t even mind a brief pause to slow the spread.
I am against keeping some things shutdown for 5 months and letting other things, that are worse, unfettered.
Cuomo already has. If you get sick and give it to granny your a murderer, said he. Meanwhile, he put active covid patients in nursing homes when he had an absurd amount of extra hospital space that was hardly used.
I’ll link some data later. I’m not sure about Canada, but I know in Sydney the safe injection site centre has reduced overdose deaths. I’d rather safe injection sites be set up in certain designated locations. The biggest problems with safe injection sites in my opinion stems from what happens to the surrounding area. In Richmond, the area around the safe injection site isn’t great… Lotta tweakers and heroin addicts. But on the other hand, in the areas where these sites don’t exist I have to occasionally witness junkies shoot up on park benches during broad daylight. It makes me feel really bad for the poor soul sitting on that bench.
I know the safe injection sites worked for the Netherlands too, and decriminalisation helped reduse needle induced transmission of blood bourne diseases + overdose deaths in Portugal.
We don’t know what the long term impacts are yet, I’d go into all the medical mumbo jumbo (using my admittedly limited understanding), but I don’t feel as if this is getting anywhere. I mentioned my family members who were seriously afflicted, the one who died… None were above 60.
Why has anti intellectualism become all the rage nowdays? Call me stupid but I think we should probably be listening to what doctors have to say if we wish to get this under control
I was referring to Australia in reference to the lockdowns.
I don’t think 150k people have died from protests this year alone within the USA either. I’d entertain your answer with another response but I think it’d be easier for us to respectfully agree to disagree with one another
Of course it will stop overdose deaths, there are medical staff on site. The point is that even with that, the number of overdose deaths in some places is way more that COVID deaths.
Some doctors disagree with the mainstream opinion. Other countries took a different approach.
None here, because we got on the ball BEFORE it showed up on the coasts. Tracked down, traced, isolated. The exact opposite of what we did here.
Some in Asia where they have a different set of standards but also were in the middle of SARS. But that’s why they handled this response better on average as well. They had practice from a decade ago and China for a neighbor.
So if you really want to reach, you can blame the pandemic.
But if you want to present a plausible or valid point maybe try blaming the drug users directly (because they are using the drugs) the suppliers for obvious reasons, or draw a direct connection between Covid-19 and heroin use/overdose, like when I got severely injured, spent a while in a drug induced coma, a week on a morphine drip, a couple months on pain pills, then became addicted to narcotics.
Because really, nobody with even mildly critical thinking skills are buying this.
It’s also just funny (or disingenuous) to try to compare something like a new disease that was only declared an emergency in March to a year’s worth of entrenched drug problem stats.
That’s not even apples/oranges. That’s like apples/jellyfish.
That’s really fucked up, I’m sorry to hear that. Why were you on pain meds for months? Guidelines generally indicate painkillers for post op pain management should only be given for like… 5-7 days. Was this around the 90’s/early 2000’s when Purdue was encouraging the callous and lenient prescribing of narcotic pain medication?
There actually could be a connection, however I highly doubt the increase in deaths induced via drug overdose correlated with covid-19 would be higher than the number of deaths induced from covid-19 alone. Statistically speaking, around 400-600K people die directly from OD’s every year. 700K have died from covid this year so far. Around 11 million people die as a result of complications associated with drug use (mostly alcohol/tobacco) every year. The statistical analysis within Canada may come to a conclusion stating drug overdoses exceed covid-19 deaths, but had Canada not imposed restrictions and followed a similar path to America the story would paint a different picture.
Following the induction of lockdown, I’ve anecdotally noted an uptick in ethanol/cannabis consumption from the generalised populace/people I associate with (people lining up to buy liquor etc). Being locked in ones own home for prolonged periods of time has the potential to detrimentally impact mental health/wellbeing. As to whether statistical analysis would notice an uptick regarding the use of drugs more prone to inducing lethal overdose I’m not sure. I assume people abuse opiates within a similar fashion to alcohol, using to blunt both emotional and physical pain and/or to relieve boredom/anxiety.
It is possible that a correlation exists between restrictions imposed and an uptick with regards to recreational drug use, however I’d expect the association with increased rates of death due to overdose would be minor. If say… safe injection sites shut down things could go south. At the same time if no restrictions are imposed and covid runs rampant, ICU beds will fill up and hospitals may be short staffed due to doctors treating covid patients and due to healthcare workers getting sick. As a result, overdose deaths would increase due to a lack of access to healthcare services.
but as you’ve said, to make these associations is equitable to grasping at straws, trying to find a needle in a haystack. It appears people are so fixated on one aspect of covid-19 (CiViL LiBeRtIeS aNd FrEeDoM) that they fail to see the bigger picture, the potential outcomes associates with numerous different scenarios/approaches taken.
I haven’t seen any legitimate statistics indicating a drug shortage to be present.
“Our participants largely perceived the illicit substances they sought were no less available since the start of restrictions.”
As to whether drugs are more contaminated, I haven’t seen any published data to indicate this to be the case
Apparently more people are using drugs too, that is part of it. For a while there also were huge lineups at liquor stores and weed stores, not sure if people went back to work or ran out of cash but it’s not like that anymore.
For those who are concerned about the economy, what do you think of Trump’s new trade war with Canada? Just now when the economy is worse than ever, businesses are shutting down, and unemployment and bankruptcy are skyrocketing our leaders want to put tariffs on everything.
Unbeknownst to me, a kid I used to know put drain cleaner in a whiskey bottle, then put the bottle back into the bar at their house. So I took a big swig, thinking “Yeah! Booze!”. But it was drano.
All of the tissue was destroyed, so it took a while to heal/grow back. It also would get torn up from follow up esophagoscopy an constriction from scarring.
I almost drank bleach like that once, it was in a water bottle. I know someone who drank gasoline that was in a coke bottle. People need to label stuff like that.
