The only problem I have with crack is sourcing and quitting.
Otherwise, It ain’t so popular for no reason, is it?
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You mean like it is normally? Ding, Ding Ding! I 100% support this. Early voting and absentee ballots for those who need them.
I actually don’t think it does help them. But they perceive it would. They are pushing extremely hard on the issue.
I wasn’t the one who said those things in the first place. And while there is some truth to that, there are still some positive things about school. Aside from school itself, there are many kids who barely go outside and don’t get to play with other kids due to the concern for the virus, seeing as it’s summer this is more relevant to the current situation. At the same time, if I go to the park around the corner there are often a bunch of kids playing there unsupervised.
Yeah. I live in a pretty well populated suburb of a large city. There is no lack of opportunity for socialization.
It’s not like the middle of Montana or Saskatchewan where you could go weeks without seeing another sign of life.
I can agree with this mostly. However, I would advocate that all the polling places are open for at least a week. Early voting isn’t as accessible as it needs to be (just having all polling places be open would be better). In a pandemic, we should not have to wait in crowds to vote (even without a pandemic, it should be easy with little to no wait).
There are some people who basically just keep their kids inside all the time and they don’t get to see any other kids, even in cities. I don’t live in a rural area, this city is just under 1 million people.
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" ‘A single per cent of New York’s population pays half of the state’s taxes and they’re the most mobile people on the globe,’ he said. "
No shit! Sounds like a conservative talking all at once…
Seems like Cuomo figured out what others have been saying one quarter too late lol. 420,000 gone from the city. Started the flight months before the normal summer seasonal flight and aren’t likely to be back soon without the attractions that made NYC hopping.
I don’t think NYC will die, but they’ll be in for a rough go for a bit. This had BETTER wake some people up. But it won’t.
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Ok?
It’s good that they’re looking at possible long term repercussions of this.
Other than that, what else is new? The most vulnerable will bear the brunt of the impact.
Sad fact of the matter is that for the people who will be impacted the worst by this its really just next. What I mean by that is that their lives are already a series of shit sandwiches. This is just the next one on the plate.
I’m not saying this with a laissez Faire attitude, I’m just sharing my observation of human nature. The well off to wealthy will keep on keeping on, and the ones who were teetering on the edges or margins are going to go over.
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Dude, Australia is doing well. Aside from Victoria we are practically covid free… Sure, our restrictions are draconian in Vic, police can now enter your house without a warrant (I think that’s too far)… but generally speaking our lockdowns have been highly effacious within relation to eliminating covid-19. Other states have more or less opened up.
All this talk about limiting freedoms, long term economic repercussions and effects on mental health are valid points, but these restrictions are far from permanent in nature. Aside from what may may think, it isn’t only elderly people dying. Someone within my family (not in Aus) died from covid-19, this person was middle aged and wasn’t afflicted by underlying medical ailments. Others within my family (not in Aus) have become very sick and/or placed on high flow oxygen. NONE of my family members afflicted by covid-19 were above the age of 60… Just food for thought, there’s a reason for lockdown, this isn’t the flu.
Not necessarily, there are business owners who are losing everything and middle class type people getting evicted or losing their homes. Meanwhile for people on welfare living in subsidized housing nothing is going to change very much.
This is essentially martial law for a virus that has killed a little over 200 in the country.
The Canadian government is saying at least 2-3 more years, maybe not eternal but certainly not short term.
Over 80%
I think the question now is when does a “real” pandemic become “fake”? The answer is when your government tells you that even with a vaccine the restrictions will have to remain in place for several more years, despite the virus being well past its peak and deaths few and far in between. People are killing themselves in droves and a lot more people are using hard drugs like heroin and fentanyl, the rate of overdoses is higher than ever. Just the number of deaths and permanent injuries from these two factors alone could soon end up higher than the ongoing number of COVID deaths in some places. The cure is worse than the disease.
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I can agree with your general point on the govt placing multiple year long restrictions after an effective vaccine is in place. But viruses can peak multiple times, and they require ongoing vigilance to prevent another peak. It isn’t one and done.
I agree with the general concept of what you are saying, but in this case the peak was due to outbreaks in many nursing homes where at that time there were basically no measures in place to stop that from happening. There is no risk of that being repeated right now, and for the general population my opinion is that dragging out all these restrictions for years is going to be worse than following something like the Swedish approach. Remember, the death rate is supposed to be 0.6% including all sick and elderly people. Is that worth fucking up the economy and causing major problems for future generations?
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Death rate is 0.6% assuming they receive proper care. If everyone gets sick around the same time some folks will not receive proper care and the death rate will rise. Additionally, what is the hospitalization rate? That’s a lot of folks so sick they need to be hospitalized with who knows what long-term issues.
“Indeed: a recent study from JAMA Cardiology shows that 78% of 100 recovered patients have ongoing heart damage, inflammation, or structural changes to their heart”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-florida-man-heart-failure.amp
That’s why the original plan was to “flatten the curve”, and it worked out well. Now the goalpost have been moved and there is no end in sight.
We were discussing this a while back, and the other question is what the actual definition for hospitalization is. If you might have COVID and you don’t feel well and they keep you overnight for observation is that a hospitalization? Or if you show up to the ER and get examined by a few doctors?
Lots of long term issues from the shutdowns and restrictions too
That sounds highly questionable considering that at least 50% of infections are asymptomatic.
My fear is that a significant portion of deaths, hospitalizations, and healthcare costs may be years after the pandemic.
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From COVID or other issues caused by the shutdowns and restrictions?