When Does a "Fake" Pandemic Become "Real"?

Either the people making the decisions all have sub-average intelligence or there is something else going on here. Looks to me like it’s about making drastic social and economic changes that never would have been supported any other way.

Just imagine another country invaded. It’s not worth fighting, people will die, do anything they say to save your weak miserable ass.

COVID is left-leaning from it’s upbringing in China.

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Define fucked up kids.

Like, are we talking Oliver Twist street urchin fucked up, or generations of church sex abuse fucked up?

Or is this like “Timmy is kind of a dork and a little bit closed off” fucked up?

Because we already have millions of Parents Overdosed and Died From Heroin fucked up.

And I’m not sure we need Parents Died From A Pandemic fucked up. But my grandmother was one of those from the Spanish Flu, and she was pretty good.

So maybe that isn’t so bad, huh?

Having lost a parent early in life, I can tell you firsthand, it will shape the way you see the world. If we can home/cyber school and take other measures to prevent that type of pain and developmental difficulty, I say we should.

I don’t mind if my kid might show some trace effect of marginal socialization at an early age. I would very much mind if he experienced the same or worse anguish and confusion that I did.

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Democrats desperately need Covid-19 panic.

  1. Without the panic, they cannot achieve mail-in voting which they desperately need in key battleground states in order to control the outcome.
  2. They cannot shut down rallies and political campaigning efforts by Trump in key battleground states.
  3. They cannot block the campaign contrast between an energetic President Trump and a physically and mentally compromised challenger.
  4. They do not have an excuse for cancelling the DNC in Milwaukee, thereby keeping team Bernie Sanders from visible opposition while protecting candidate gibberish for himself.
  5. They do not have a mechanism to keep voters isolated from each other limiting communication and national debate adverse to their interests.
  6. They cannot keep their blue state economies easily shut down and continue to block U.S. economic growth. All thriving economies are against the political interests of Democrats.
  7. They cannot easily keep candidate Joe Biden in the basement where the electorate is not exposed to his visible signs of dementia.
  8. It becomes more difficult for big tech to censor voices that would outline the fraud and scheme.
  9. They cannot advance influence or organize their preferred presidential debate format - a virtual presidential debate series.
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Without starting a victim Olympics, I’ll just say that I’ve spent three months underground and I’m fine.

Timmies of the world will be fine. The same people calling for rugged individualism and bemoaning the softness of modern generations also believe that several weeks of playing video games at home will irrevocably destroy children.

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Is this an admission that if more people vote or it is easier to vote, that the GOP loses?

I also don’t buy the logic that mail in voting give control to the Dems? The GOP has voters that vote by mail too.

I am not sure they can do this regardless. I don’t see a link between Covid-19, and democrats getting rally shutdown power? Didn’t Trump choose to shutdown the Florida rally?

I don’t think there is contrast here (see recent Axios interview to see the state of DJT’s mental state).

Aside from that, team Trump is more than free to use political ads, or do online rallies. He has the bully pulpit. The problem is, it seems he is his own worst enemy when he opens his mouth. He absolutely slaughtered himself in the recent Axios interview.

IIRC, Bernie is now campaigning for Biden, or at least has made statements of support.

Neither do the GOP. Seems like a fair playing field here. The data says more total people identify as Dem leaning. If anything this is a disadvantage for the Dems IMO.

Why are the majority of thriving economies in blue states? Wouldn’t they move to red states if it was better. At least a few of them would you would think?

Maybe it is coincidence that the majority of thriving economies are in blue states. That could be, but I am not convinced of your point.

Maybe Dems care more about mental health, so this could be an advantage. Both candidates are not all there mentally.

What? I don’t know how Covid enables Big Tech?

I don’t think there is any proof that the Dems want a virtual debate.

I’m sure they will be. Of all the ways kids can/have become damaged, not sending them to a public school is the least of my worries.

People are just latching on to easy excuses to justify their positions. A friend of mine threw this same one at me and I laughed my ass off.

I said “Really? Kids will be poorly socialized? How did that work for us? (we both have some dubious history)”.

He did kinda concede that point in light of the evidence. :joy:

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I will just say it plain. It’s a far-left power grab.
All they needed was an opportunity to suspend civil rights and they jumped on it faster than a sailor on a whore.
And the Democratic Party now has the missing ingredient that made them successful in the early 20th century, when they had the KKK doing threats, violence and intimidation, they now have BLM carrying those acts out. Either way, it works for them and it is working.

Fucking BOOM! Preach!

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No. It’s one of a many pronged strategy the democratic party is using to fuck up the election process and make it more murky which is advantageous to them. They have already set up the chess pieces by saying Trump will not concede the election, that he’s falsely claiming that mail in voter fraud is rife with problems (which it is and I can give a lecture describing what we have already seen in 2020), and then yes they think they will have better turn out if people don’t actually have to put in effort.
Then there is the potentials for fraud combined with already existing cases that is going to make November a wild-ass ride regardless who wins.

Lol. You mean the 20% of voters who voted last time by mail when Trump won? You mean the voters like Trump and many in his family who already vote by mail?

I realize this is the current Republican talking point that they are all frothing over (without evidence as usual) but it’s pretty weak even if we expect it from a Covid rejector.

Trump has said everything is rigged against him since 2016 election. That “chess piece” wasn’t setup by Dems.

Why not fix then? I mean millions of Americans voted by mail in the last election including him. So voting by mail is fraudulent because Dems of course but all the Republicans including those who are saying don’t do it that did last time are what exactly? Hypocrites? Morons who don’t care about their vote?

Put out effort lmao. It’s voting not a fucking CrossFit competition. You ever seen a mail in ballot? Are you under the impression that voting in person is vastly more difficult?

Also lmao at the idea that it’s guaranteed to help Dems and not Republicans. That’s based on nothing but the typical “Dems gonna cheat the election” horseshit. And it ignores the numerous things Republicans have done to cheat elections historically.

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Welp, New York City is dying:

A look into our future.

What? How is it being more mucky an advantage?

You are partially correct, but Trump has hinted at not conceding. IMO, setting up chess pieces is a bit of a stretch. It is like saying the guy on the bridge who said he is going to jump might actually jump.

Isn’t it a good thing to have the citizens of this country weigh in on politics. I don’t think it should be difficult to vote. We should make it as easy as possible. Having to put up with bull shit should not be a qualifier to vote.

Have you looked at what one would have to do to commit voter fraud? It isn’t easy. By mail or absentee isn’t easy either. It is a ton of work. to get one extra vote, and if one gets caught it is a felony.

So on one hand people aren’t voting because of laziness, and on the other, people are going through hours of fraud to get one extra vote? It seems like they would be much better served running a shuttle in a DEM leaning area or something.

There is no precise definition, there is a wide spectrum of dysfunctional behaviors. The concern is the psychological effects of growing up isolated or socially distanced from other people, they will have problems interacting with others. There are a lot of different ways it could end up depending on the kid and the situation, some will likely be chronically depressed (mostly the ones with no siblings and boring parents).

There might be something to what you are saying, but it’s bigger than America. Look at Australia, they now have some of the strictest regulation in the world despite having few cases or deaths, nothing relating to Trump is happening there. Or India where people couldn’t even leave their houses for weeks.

The right is in on it too. In Ontario it’s the Progressive Conservatives running the province with Doug Ford as premier, who is a sort of Trump wannabe. Same shit going on here.

I don’t claim to know what the ultimate goal is with any of this and I think most of these online conspiracy theorists are either spreading disinformation (Alex Jones for example) or are just delusional and full of shit, but something isn’t right.

This creates a real conundrum.

Like just months ago, according to conservatives public schools were sewers running thick with social decay, corruption, socialist brainwashing, appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Now they are essential for good development and social adaptation, and kids must return to school lest they be terminally dysfunctional.

Which one is it?

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In Los Angeles for instance, after the primaries, they discovered 100,000 uncounted ballots. The solution? Extend the deadline for 7 days past the election. Which means that unless there is an unmitigated wallop at the polls, the results may not be counted for days. Which means, if the election is remotely close, then we won’t know who won, court cases and filings by both sides, accusations of fraud by both sides and you have a mess.

This is covered by the above. If it’s remotely close neither will concede. Hell, Hillary and the democrats have been trying to reverse 2016 since 2016. Russia and Ukraine both completely unraveled, both designed to take out Trump, undo the 2016 election.
If Joe wakes up from his coma to find out he won in a landslide, I don’t think you’ll have any problems getting Trump to leave, hell he may even run.

“Citizens” being the key word here. And mail in balloting has already been a disaster. People not getting ballots, getting wrong ballots, A lady got a ballot for her dead cat, there was an instance of a box of ballots found in a dumpster.
It’s not regular citizens voting legitimately that I fear. It’s the votes not getting counted, lost, stolen, changed. It’s already happened and I can provide links to those stories if you want. A box of South Carolina ballots ended up in Maryland.

Ever had someone else’s mail delivered to your house? Happens to me all the time.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/26/1_in_5_ballots_rejected_as_fraud_is_charged_in_nj_mail-in_election_143551.html

It’s funny how you see multiple Op Ed’s decrying the Tom foolery of mail-in ballot problems and then see multiple stories where it actually happened.
I am voting in person.

They are not mutually exclusive. At no time did anybody say the kids would not be better off in schools. Conservatives just want school choice and I think that’s fine, but making public schools better is also necessary.

You just illustrated the problem of far-left thinking. “There are problems in schools? Just get rid of the schools!”
Just like, “Police have issues. Get rid of the police!”

No we work to make the schools better and provide options, that’s the middle, reasoned approach.

Dude, you been hitting that conservatard crackpipe so hard you just forgot your own last 10 years of post history.

Furthermore, I’m asking for clarification, not saying we should get rid of anything.

Read more gooder before you accuse me of doing dumb-dumb no thinky stuff.

You have a problem with crack and homosexuality?? Some progressive you are.

This may be true, but I don’t see how it supports your argument that it is an advantage for democrats?

Maybe we make elections only in person, but they are two weeks long or something. I don’t have much of an issue with that. Only absentee if you have a really good reason. I do have issues with the current system which is unfairly deployed. Many people have to put up with serious BS just to vote.

What? She conceded the night of the election. Sure, she has voiced her opinions on why, but she hasn’t taken much action to actually reverse it from what I have seen.

I am not following here.

See my above comment. IMO mail ballots are required for people to voice their opinions. Our current system is not available to everyone. It is on a Tuesday, and in many places it is long lines and such.

There are many solutions (we don’t have to go with mine), but just about 0 effort has been put in by the group that controls it, and complains about it at the same time.