The Washington Times? One of the originators of fake news.
People are dying, nobody is laughing except sociopaths.
I do hope that there’s a less misanthropic reading of this sentence than the one I came up with.
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You guys do know that pat has legitimate brain damage?
Pat, seriously man. This sounds like that feverish bent of atomistic libertarianism that can’t imagine that perhaps some things just don’t begin and end with the individual. Like pollution, extreme and growing income gaps, and viruses.
I would suggest that such thinking is antithetical to your/our Catholicism.
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The rate of false positives is actually very low, false negatives are the real issue. Apparently up to 30% of infected people will test negative.
As you run hysterically into conspiracy theory land! 
You poor inflamed vagina. Your idea of a train wreck is when only 6 people show up to pull it on you.
Oh lawd. I admit I hadn’t realized it was that high.
Yeah, deaths are tragic, but there is reason to believe those numbers have been tampered with too. But the case number fraud isn’t an isolated problem. And I don’t know if its actually fraud or just accidents, but like anything else it needs to be investigated. This isn’t conspiracy and these are not one-offs. I have even personally heard it from healthcare workers in the midst of the battle, anecdotally.
Accurate information is our best defense and if we don’t have it and know we don’t have it we’re prone to tragically stupid behavior, which can have devastating consequences.
Ooooo, you got me now! Come on, try to be creative. Come up with insults that are at least funny. Fuck, pussy, idiot, etc. are sooooo last century.
Ok, Pat. I’m going to let it go. There is a strain of thought that I’ve had to deal with too many times around here. And, it tends to go nowhere. Hope you and yours are spared from being touched by this thing for your sakes, and ours. God bless.
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Conventional diagnostic tests for the novel coronavirus may give false-negative results about 30% of the time
A lot more people have been infected than the official data suggest.
Just to give you a real life example, I work for a nursing home that had an outbreak of COVID. All except 3 residents had COVID symptoms, but only about 2/3 tested positive despite there not being any other virus going around the home at the time. The employees are all being tested twice a month, and since the outbreak everyone is consistently testing negative - there are zero false positives at the moment.
Sloth, did you read what I said? What part of what I said, do you disagree with?
I am taking a very measured, middle of the road response.
Just tell me what part you disagree with? I wear a mask to the store. I think it’s better to wear a mask than not when in doubt, so what of what I said, do you disagree with?
Oh wow. We just went to spend the 4th of July outside with some relatives (we had not socialized with anyone since this all started until then). One had been sick and so had his negative covid test sitting out for reassurance. Now, we did maintain distance and left our masks on (my girl-friend is about as vigilant as it gets as a dental-hygienist and a bit of a self described germ-a-phobe) as we sat outside to watch the fireworks. Which, now that I see this, I’m damned glad we did.
You mean you are often accused of being disappointed by anything less than 6 dicks?
Damn dude.
It seems to me like testing people is a waste of time. Also they now say that asymptomatic people can’t infect others, if that’s true then people with symptoms should isolate themselves and don’t worry about the rest. What use is a negative test if there is a 30% chance it’s wrong?
Of course we need to be sure that asymptomatic people cant spread it, but that’s what the WHO said last.
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Some more info data regarding false negatives and false positives:
We cannot make good decisions on bad data
False negatives only say to me “Please still wear your damn mask, then.”
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All this makes me wonder how much of this is motivated by profits. All the testing kits, machines used for tests, and masks are bringing in billions of dollars. I know a guy who sells cloth masks, he is making 8x his money off them too.
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I think that realistically it would make more sense to tell people with any possible symptoms to wear masks if not stay home altogether. The problem is that you will have some assholes who either think it’s a hoax or don’t care about infecting others and will go out and spread it. I think that I shouldn’t have to wear a mask because I already had the virus, but that’s another story.