Trump is such an idiot! Geez!! Hard to believe he’s that dumb. It almost makes me wonder whether he may have been talking about some sort of testing stoppage for some type of illness during Obama’s time in office. But I know the truth: He’s so dumb that he thinks Obama was in office earlier this year.
This is correct. See linked video above for evidence and this speech for further evidence. As usual we will just have to guess what he meant and assume the best for his thoughts as they don’t make any sense.
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”
Something, somewhere, somehow is going to reach a head…and it will not be pretty.
The Fake Pandemic Groups are doubling-down, organizing and continuing their onslaught.
California seems to be shutting down again, with many businesses and individuals barely surviving as it is.
It’s not looking good, and I don’t see how things could not get ugly…and quite frankly I don’t know what the answer is…
Do we shut down and isolate…or do we just “go-for-it”, open up, and who dies dies…and if you can’t get medical services because hospital systems are overwhelmed? Oh well…those be the breaks?
What IS the answer, guys?
Just have to wait for the election and hope Trump loses.
I don’t know what answers are down the road, but right now it sure seems to make sense to have a federal order on mask wearing. The data indicates that the mask improves outcomes. Not sure if we need another stay at home order or not? The mask wearing is almost a non cost, so if we get benefit from it, then I think it is a no brainer.
It seems like we as a people need to do something @SkyzykS alluded to in another thread…
Decide what the hell we want to do.
I don’t know if California is the place to test this…but I guess we’ll have to see.
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A bullet proof vest won’t stop all bullets, nor bullets to most of your body. But I think it would be helpful to wear one if folks are shooting at you.
I’d rather have my sushi chef wash his hands in just water, as opposed to not washing at all.
I’d rather have a mosquito net with a few holes in it, than no mosquito net at all.
I’d rather filter swamp water with a coffee filter than drink it with no filter at all.
Etc, etc. That “smart guy” was either bring facetious, or really isn’t that smart. Something doesn’t need to be 100% effective, to still be meaningfully effective.
It’s not tough, for most people, to wear a mask for a couple minutes when in a store.
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Looking at how things were in Ontario for the last while, with social distancing and limited numbers of people in a building it seems that the spread of the virus can be minimized. Add masks to that and it will be even more effective. Shutting down works too but the costs are high and it’s not a sustainable option, keep that up long enough and hospital won’t be able to accept patients due to lack of medicine and equipment. The money has to come from somewhere.
These people are a problem, they are totally delusional. You could argue that the risks are overblown or the pandemic is being used as an excuse to take away rights, but when they say things like there is no virus or it’s just the common cold I put them in the same category as flat earthers.
But part of the issue is the media freaking out over and over, and when you look at what’s going on it’s not nearly as bad as what you see in the news. That’s not helping at all. A while back they were going on about how hospitals around the world were overwhelmed, then people made videos of empty or near-empty hospitals and posted it online, that certainly gives the impression that what’s in the news isn’t accurate and some will take the whole thing for a hoax.
Hospitals were only busy when there are “hotspots”. Otherwise they sat relatively empty. And hotspots come and go. I don’t know that the US had any overwhelmed hospitals, to the point of people dying because of the lack of care, which was the original reason for the shutdowns that began last March. Even in NYC they’ve admitted they didn’t use all the respirators that the President got to them from emergency reserves.
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Yep…I call them “COVID Orgasms”.
These newscasters get on air and it sounds like they are literally in the middle of an orgasm as they give a quick synopsis of the daily headlines (often involving COVID issues…) before they launch into all of the horror stories.
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It doesn’t. They have to find the worst possible imagery and hype it through the ceiling to grab attention.
Science and medicine are actually very quiet. I woke up during my stents being put in. It was a brand new, state of the art cardiac catheterization lab, which sounds pretty impressive. Really though, it was 3 guys who are really good at what they do, a couple of big screen monitors and some various other equipment.
No bells. No whistles. Pretty quiet. Not very good television at all really.
Same with the covid. The test centers are overwhelmed, but except for the absolute worst cases, there is nothing to be done. You go home and either get better or die.
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Funny thing with test centers, over here a few months ago when cases were at their peak there was one center and they were turning away most of the few people who went there. You needed a referral to get tested. Now there are only a few cases left, anyone can get tested and and there are three test centers, so many people are getting tested it can take 3-4 hours just to get in the door. I know a guy who had to get tested for work last week, he said he spent the whole day there.
At least there is no harm in what they are doing now, but if they did this sooner plus the now-mandatory masks it would have been over much faster. It’s better than what some US states did though, shutting down and then reopening only to shut down again is about the worst possible situation, plus all the deaths on top of that.
Are there any states where the situation is mostly under control? All I hear is bad news from the US.
Well, this is just interesting as shit!
Covid numbers in FL wrong… oops.
No not all, clearly, but this is a problem that cannot be ignored.
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Surprisingly in one of those head-scratches in all of this…what they call the “New York/New Jersey/Delaware Corridor” (I think I have it right) and New York as a whole. The “original” hot-spots seem to be improving…and dramatically.
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And it seems to have 7.8 Billion experts. We all think we got it right and we most likely got it wrong.
Bad news sells!
I’ve really only been watching western PA. Ours has just been at a low simmer. There’s an upswing in positive cases, but the number of hospital admissions and deaths has been low.
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I don’t disagree. I wear a mask where required, mainly out of respect not efficacy. It’s something difficult to put a hard number on as there are thousands of factors at play.
You mean hell?
I say ‘go-for-it’, with precautions. The most vulnerable seem to be the elderly and people with multiple complicating factors. We need to be protective of them.
So I would have businesses and jobs not require employees to come in and have their jobs protected.
Keep public spaces as clean as possible and give space between folks as a general rule.
Life has to go on at some point. We were locked down for 2 months and it didn’t seem to help that much. I am not for doing that again. The costs are just too high.
There was a point in late May where CA had more suicide deaths than covid deaths. I don’t remember the numbers, but the suicides were a dramatic tick upwards, not average for CA during the same time period.
I’m of the opinion that we aren’t really going to know much for quite some time. Probably several years.
As for testing, the doc explained to me that even if you have it, in the first few days and last few days, you can very likely get a negative test result, and that there are really only 6 days out of a 14 day cycle that you would likely get a positive result if you have it.
I think the accuracy rate for lymes disease testing is like 30 percent too.
Some of this shit simply defies our ability to examine or understand.
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