Like Akuma said, the amount of time I spend in the gym depends mostly on what muscles I am hitting. For me leg day seems to never end, I am in the gym for 2 hours easy. But it’s two hours of work, If you can’t focus, you should change up your workout a bit. Add some new stuff in, replace some lifts, throw in some supersets, ect.
I don’t think anyone can tell you that every single person cannot gain any benefits from being in the gym for more than 45 minutes. Sure, with some workouts it can be done in 45 minutes if you bust your ass to get it done fast. Just don’t pay attention to the clock and get your stuff done, hard. If you start to feel like crap, call it a day. If not, finish what you set out to do.
For me after 1 hour ca sert plus a rien. I lose my focus, I just want to go home and my training is junk. I do the minimum amount of volume I can progress with. BUT If I do too little I become out of shape and when I bump up the volume I get ridiculously weak on the added sets. I don’t know how million times this has been said but the important thing is to learn what works for you.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Depends on the kind of workout - training with partners or not, kind of exercises, type of exercise.
Elite athletes train up to 30 hours per week or 4 to 6 hours per day. Michael Phelps trains 36 hours per week.[/quote]
Right - but elite athletes are not spending 4-6 hours in the weight room. They are practicing and working on skills/running drills. Personally, I struggle to stay in the weight room for more than 1.5. And usually when I’m in there that long, I’m working 3 or 4 bodyparts like Back/Bi’s/Calves or Chest/Tris/Hams
I’ve noticed that as I’ve leaned up and improved my conditioning, I don’t have to take nearly as long between sets which has cut my time in the gym down by 10-15 min
Now I take between 40-60 minutes in the gym but I’m probably doing less isolation exercises than most people here, especially Akuma lol
It’s not like just wanting it badly is enough to train 3 hours though. Obviously for Akuma that works but there are plently of huge guys who say they couldn’t/shouldn’t do that.
I believe C_C is a fan of 30-40min workouts. At least I’ve seen him outline routines where he mentions the workouts should be about that long.
I don’t put so much emphasis on the anount of time, I have to finish everything i have my mind set to do. For instance, when I do legs (my favorite) I can spend 2-3 hrs on them and I LOVE every minute of it!
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
It’s not like just wanting it badly is enough to train 3 hours though. Obviously for Akuma that works but there are plently of huge guys who say they couldn’t/shouldn’t do that.
I believe C_C is a fan of 30-40min workouts. At least I’ve seen him outline routines where he mentions the workouts should be about that long. [/quote]
like i said, it really depends on the individual. Most of the time, i simply do 1 big compound movement, then move on to complete isolation, and each muscle is getting 2-4 exercises. So my workouts are normally doozys, but i enjoy it.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Depends on the kind of workout - training with partners or not, kind of exercises, type of exercise.
I don’t know where the 45 to 60 minute rule came from. If you get what you have to get done in that time frame, then good! If it takes two hours to do what needs to be done, then good! And so on and so on.
Elite athletes train up to 30 hours per week or 4 to 6 hours per day. Michael Phelps trains 36 hours per week.[/quote]
I guess it depends on what you want out of the gym. If you want endurance then by all means train all day! BTW Michael Phelps is a twigg so I think that is a bad example of training long hours in the gym…
“…after 60 minutes of training the levels of the catabolic hormone cortisol increases and testosterone decreases, a hormonal situation that will prevent you from making any gains. My philosophy when it comes to time spent at the gym is get in, do your job well, and get out. These days even most of the top pro bodybuilders refrain from spending much more than 1 hour at the gym.”
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Depends on the kind of workout - training with partners or not, kind of exercises, type of exercise.
I don’t know where the 45 to 60 minute rule came from. If you get what you have to get done in that time frame, then good! If it takes two hours to do what needs to be done, then good! And so on and so on.
Elite athletes train up to 30 hours per week or 4 to 6 hours per day. Michael Phelps trains 36 hours per week.[/quote]
I guess it depends on what you want out of the gym. If you want endurance then by all means train all day! BTW Michael Phelps is a twigg so I think that is a bad example of training long hours in the gym…
“…after 60 minutes of training the levels of the catabolic hormone cortisol increases and testosterone decreases, a hormonal situation that will prevent you from making any gains. My philosophy when it comes to time spent at the gym is get in, do your job well, and get out. These days even most of the top pro bodybuilders refrain from spending much more than 1 hour at the gym.”
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You can quote scientist and researchers all day long, but the fact reamains that there are big guys that got that way by being in the gym for long periods of time. Not that it’s the only way to gain muscle, but it’s rediculous to say you are unable to make gains after you’re in the gym for an hour when there is so much proof otherwise.
I think it depends more on the frequency you hit the bodyparts than anything else. I’m usually done in 60 minutes or so. Since I train 7 days a week and hit most bodyparts 2x/week and hit lagging areas 3x/week, my volume each session does not need to be very high and so my time in the gym is shorter.
If you train each bodypart only once a week the volume has to be greater and you will be in there longer, obviously.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I think it depends more on the frequency you hit the bodyparts than anything else. I’m usually done in 60 minutes or so. Since I train 7 days a week and hit most bodyparts 2x/week and hit lagging areas 3x/week, my volume each session does not need to be very high and so my time in the gym is shorter.
If you train each bodypart only once a week the volume has to be greater and you will be in there longer, obviously.[/quote]
dude, i thought i told you to talk slower around me. Cant be using all these big words like Frequency n shit…
[quote]3djedi wrote:
I guess it depends on what you want out of the gym. If you want endurance then by all means train all day! BTW Michael Phelps is a twigg so I think that is a bad example of training long hours in the gym…
"....after 60 minutes of training the levels of the catabolic hormone cortisol increases and testosterone decreases, a hormonal situation that will prevent you from making any gains. My philosophy when it comes to time spent at the gym is get in, do your job well, and get out. These days even most of the top pro bodybuilders refrain from spending much more than 1 hour at the gym."
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Earlier in this thread I mentioned people who read some science but lack the knowledge to make a correct interpretation of it. Well guess what, you’re exactly the type of person I was taslking about.
Do you really know what you’re talking about or are you just spewing crap you’ve picked up on the web? If you answered that you know what you’re talking about then you’re a fucking liar. Kindly stop spreading your bullshit rumors and fuck off.
This kid trains for much longer than 60 minutes per session and he trains multiple sessions per day. He’s pretty much stronger than anyone on this site - hell, he’s stronger than anyone you will ever meet - and he’s a teenager. Wanna tell him he shouldn’t train for more than 60 minutes per session?
Edit: Can you explain EXACTLY what cortisol does? Can you prove that it isn’t a necessary link in the chain reaction that causes hypertrophy?
[quote]3djedi wrote:
I guess it depends on what you want out of the gym. If you want endurance then by all means train all day! BTW Michael Phelps is a twigg so I think that is a bad example of training long hours in the gym…
"....after 60 minutes of training the levels of the catabolic hormone cortisol increases and testosterone decreases, a hormonal situation that will prevent you from making any gains. My philosophy when it comes to time spent at the gym is get in, do your job well, and get out. These days even most of the top pro bodybuilders refrain from spending much more than 1 hour at the gym."
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Earlier in this thread I mentioned people who read some science but lack the knowledge to make a correct interpretation of it. Well guess what, you’re exactly the type of person I was taslking about.
Do you really know what you’re talking about or are you just spewing crap you’ve picked up on the web? If you answered that you know what you’re talking about then you’re a fucking liar. Kindly stop spreading your bullshit rumors and fuck off.
This kid trains for much longer than 60 minutes per session and he trains multiple sessions per day. He’s pretty much stronger than anyone on this site - hell, he’s stronger than anyone you will ever meet - and he’s a teenager. Wanna tell him he shouldn’t train for more than 60 minutes per session?
Edit: Can you explain EXACTLY what cortisol does? Can you prove that it isn’t a necessary link in the chain reaction that causes hypertrophy?[/quote]
More anecdotal evidence, and I know that this isn’t truly bodybuilding related so if it’s inappropriate I apologise. Here’s a guy who trains at my gym frequently and I’ve never seen him train for as little as 60 minutes. He’s 24 or 25 years old, has been training for strongman for just a few years and allready he’s a serious threat to the top names:
[quote]Matsa wrote:
More anecdotal evidence, and I know that this isn’t truly bodybuilding related so if it’s inappropriate I apologise. Here’s a guy who trains at my gym frequently and I’ve never seen him train for as little as 60 minutes. He’s 24 or 25 years old, has been training for strongman for just a few years and allready he’s a serious threat to the top names:
Wow that’s amazing. Interesting strategy used for cleaning the weight up haha
When I first started going to the gym with Akuma, the long days really wore me out. I was out of it, after about an hour and half. That lasted about a month. After you get through the mental brutality of it, its not even an issue. Me and Akuma have two VERY different body types, and on the 3 hour days, we both make it through just fine. Its really a mindset thing. The way I got over it in the beginning was, I stopped expecting to be done by a certain time. Eventually you get to a point, where your mentality is basically this: You are here to do a job, you can go home when you’re done.
As for the whole “losing focus” thing, that’s bullshit. You don’t “lose focus” when you have 400lbs on your back, or when your have a pair of 130lb dumbells in your hands. If you do, you fucking die.
As for the whole “losing focus” thing, that’s bullshit. You don’t “lose focus” when you have 400lbs on your back, or when your have a pair of 130lb dumbells in your hands. If you do, you fucking die.[/quote]
I’m talking about losing the ability to really focus on each rep and set, making it count, and making sure my form is solid. It’s not “bullshit” because it is true for me. Thanks for the intelligent response though.
