When are Side Chicks Ok

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
LOL at all the white knights calling “cheating” chicken shit or advising someone to get a divorce (which takes a year or more) BEFORE you get some. LMFAO
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You’re being ridiculously literal. There’s no lock on your dick that comes off once the judge signs a paper. What people are saying is that you make it known that things are over. Start the process, whatever. I know how long it takes, but if you’re fucking married to someone you at least owe it to them to make it known that a divorce is gonna happen and the union is no longer exclusive. Don’t just go behind their back and wait and see if they ask. I mean why? YOU are the one who chose to get married, YOU gotta deal with the consequences.

If you literally can’t afford a divorce then hire a hitman or something I dunno.

Don’t do that though. I feel like hebrewhero is the type of person who actually would. Hebrewhero, don’t tell the cops that csulli from TNation told you to hire a contract killer to assassinate your frigid wife.[/quote]

I actually think that society is far better served by keeping families intact. No fault divorce makes it a moot point about who cheat’s first, so who gives a fuck? Every man should know that he’s going to get fucked six ways from Sunday in a divorce (which isn’t fair) so why should there be a reasonable expectation of fidelity if the woman stops meeting the man’s needs?

I could just as easily confront a woman who isn’t putting out and say, “you’re fucking MARRIED, you at least owe your husband some pussy when he wants it. You KNEW sex was part of being married, so if you didn’t want the dick, you shouldn’t have done it”.

If SHE cuts it off, how is there any reasonable expectation that the relationship continues to be exclusive? That’s a completely unreasonable expectation.[/quote]

Lol the divorce does not always end in the guy ruined my self and almost a dozen of people form my HS have divorced families that ended without financial hemorrhage from either party[/quote]

Must be nice. I guess I’ll just trust all my assets to chance because the people you know made out just fine… What state do you live in? Cuz ya know there are different laws depending where you live, right?

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
AC i am normally in line with your comments but these are heavy narcissistic comments. Damn man what happened.[/quote]

What happened is that I was having a fairly busy morning at work, failed to properly communicate my position and had a bunch of people make a bunch of assumptions about me and assassinate my character EVEN THOUGH I SAID DON’T LIE.

That’s what happened.

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[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
AC i am normally in line with your comments but these are heavy narcissistic comments. Damn man what happened.[/quote]

Reality. [/quote]

Who’s reality?

I believe AC is arguing that it is OK to step out on your marriage if you are discrete about it.

It isn’t lying if she doesn’t know.

Forget about loyalty and fidelity, and keeping your word to someone like your word means something. If the sex isn’t great, you are off the hook and cheating is cool. And no worries, you’re still a quality man.

I think that’s the message to the Hero with Herpes.
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I believe you are wrong about what my argument is. I believe we are not talking about “if the sex isn’t great”, we are talking about “if the sex is nonexistent”. I think you are reading other people’s ASSUMPTIONS about my point and not what I WROTE.

I believe you wrote in a thread earlier this year that you only give your husband sex on your anniversary, as in ONCE A YEAR, so you would qualify as a sex-withholding manipulative bitch. (unless you were joking, if so, I apologize - if not, my assertion stands)

I believe you can take your “holier than thou” attitude and shove it up your judgmental little ass.

So given that you may be intimately familiar with the concept of withholding, how often do you fuck your husband?

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[quote]SuperVillian wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:
Never ok. Man up and get rid of her first.[/quote]

Truth. Thread over. [/quote]

Easier said than done. Every situating is different. Not everything is black and white.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
No fault divorce makes it a moot point about who cheat’s first, so who gives a fuck? [/quote]

I would think any man that lives his life by a certain set of principles, a code if you will, would care. [/quote]

I agree, and I say that as someone who has confronted the question of a sexless marriage WITH a spouse who’d cheated, presumably in an effort to find a way to excite himself. Ultimately the conclusion I came to was that my own standards of behavior would not be met if I went outside the marriage. I did not think it was enough reason to blow up a family, so resolved to accept the status quo.

Ultimately the marriage ended anyway. We were separated for four months before we officially called it quits and I don’t think it was even two months after the decision that I had my first-ever fling. I feel very comfortable with my behavior - there was no betrayal involved as far as I’m concerned, though I’m sure he wasn’t thrilled. I felt and still feel that I’d spent long enough locked in a tower by myself and nothing was served by my waiting.

He struggles with the same problem post-divorce. He moved to Taiwan to be with a woman and that crashed and burned, too, with sex again an issue. I am inclined to believe that marriages that become sexless for more than a brief time (let’s say six months barring illness, a libido-suppressing drug, or a string of pregnancies) are going to stay that way. Something is wrong with one of the partners or the match is not a good one.

But back to ethical behavior - AC, I’m surprised at you. What happened to honesty?[/quote]

I would never lie about it. But I would certainly be discreet. I stated up there already that I wouldn’t lie about it…
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Sorry, married partners owe each other fiduciary duties, i.e., duties of loyalty, trust and disclosure. Failing to disclose material facts is exactly the same as telling an affirmative lie when you owe fiduciary duties.
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DUDE. What part about NOT LYING did I fail to communicate? What is wrong with you people?

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

I believe you wrote in a thread earlier this year that you only give your husband sex on your anniversary, as in ONCE A YEAR, so you would qualify as a sex-withholding manipulative bitch. (unless you were joking, if so, I apologize - if not, my assertion stands)
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Shit just got real.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
75-80%, no way I buy that. [/quote]
Same.[/quote]

You guys are living in fantasy land if you think that 75% of women have NEVER CHEATED. LMAO[/quote]
I just think the precision has no base lol. I know plenty of women that have cheated with their SO right there.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
AC i am normally in line with your comments but these are heavy narcissistic comments. Damn man what happened.[/quote]

Reality. [/quote]

Who’s reality?

I believe AC is arguing that it is OK to step out on your marriage if you are discrete about it.

It isn’t lying if she doesn’t know.

Forget about loyalty and fidelity, and keeping your word to someone like your word means something. If the sex isn’t great, you are off the hook and cheating is cool. And no worries, you’re still a quality man.

I think that’s the message to the Hero with Herpes.
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I believe you are wrong about what my argument is. I believe we are not talking about “if the sex isn’t great”, we are talking about “if the sex is nonexistent”. I think you are reading other people’s ASSUMPTIONS about my point and not what I WROTE.

I believe you wrote in a thread earlier this year that you only give your husband sex on your anniversary, as in ONCE A YEAR, so you would qualify as a sex-withholding manipulative bitch. (unless you were joking, if so, I apologize - if not, my assertion stands)

I believe you can take your “holier than thou” attitude and shove it up your judgmental little ass.

So given that you may be intimately familiar with the concept of withholding, how often do you fuck your husband?[/quote]

If I misunderstood you, then I apologize. Perhaps your post was poorly worded, or I read it wrong. It happens.

And the comment I made about anniversary sex in another thread was a joke. And I said it was a joke. Repeatedly. Sorry if you misunderstood me to be serious. I also said that the secret to a good marriage was lots and lots of constructive criticism. People thought that was serious too, so apparently I can’t tell a joke. At all.

A lot can be lost in this form of communication. I am very sorry. I tend to assume good will about people. And those assumptions are usually reciprocated.

Stepping out of the locker room now.

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AC - you can write DON’T LIE ABOUT IT a million times, a few people have demonstrated why that wouldn’t work in a typical marriage. That’s not a straw man, it’s taking your argument to it’s logical conclusion.

I’m not saying no sex is acceptable in a marriage, I’m just saying that no sex is usually a symptom of much deeper problems. Getting it on the side is not the answer. I’ve rarely seen, heard or read about people that have great marriages but a non existent sex life. If that’s the scenario you’re talking about than I’ll just say I think it’s pretty rare.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
75-80%, no way I buy that. [/quote]
Same.[/quote]

You guys are living in fantasy land if you think that 75% of women have NEVER CHEATED. LMAO[/quote]
You’ve got the statistic inverted. They just didn’t agree that 75% of women had cheated, which is to say that they would believe that at least more than 25% of women had not cheated.

Not that I agree, just pointing out the numbers. Hell I’d put the number at 100% minus Em lol.

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i am an doge…

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[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
i am an doge…[/quote]
I really am cannot. I am really am cannot.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
lol @ dudes giving wife a “fuck me now OR ELSE!” ultimatum.

Forcing an unwilling woman to have sex with you is SO much better than doing it with one who is eager. Enjoy your rape Lancelot.[/quote]

Now I’m RAPING her if she puts out! Gotta love it! Wow…

Best strawman of the night award goes to YOU![/quote]

This wasn’t directed at you. Near as I can tell you and I are of similar opinion on the matter of the side piece - that is that there’s a lot more to marriage than sex, and you shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water, or live as a sexless martyr.

I just think it’s funny that some people in this thread think that anyone with a side piece is scum / dirt / etc… but apperently also think that pressuring your wife into having sex she doesn’t want under threat of DIVORCE is the honorable thing to do.

Basically, imo pressuring your wife into sex is a shitty thing to do, and a sure fire way to not get laid in any sort of enjoyable way. If your being awesome enough that other women are begging for your cock but for some reason she’s not interested, and you can do it discretely so that she doesn’t have it rubbed in her face by you / she’s the laughing stock of the county / etc… and a side piece will save your marriage, than get a fucking side piece for crying out loud !

TLDR: side piece > divorce.

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^ this..
all white knight shit aside. If having a side piece means. 1 family stays intact 2 wife continues to live same life 3 assets stay right then it is what it is. This all or nothing mentality is bs. Life is 1 big grey area. Not everything is black & white. Sometimes you gotta break some eggs to make an omelette.
No reason to keep a perfectly good dick in a jar. Fuck that im livin my life. Yall internet tuff guys that hate me so bad. Thats some weak ass shit. If you really have the time to invest in a anonymous mofo you really need to get a life.

deuces

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

I believe you wrote in a thread earlier this year that you only give your husband sex on your anniversary, as in ONCE A YEAR, so you would qualify as a sex-withholding manipulative bitch. (unless you were joking, if so, I apologize - if not, my assertion stands)
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Shit just got real.[/quote]

Yeah. Well, I should have phrased my response as a question. Or just stayed out of it. I did sound judgmental. I’m not used to being talked to like that by anyone, so that’s a big clue, right?

You’ve always been pretty cool to me, Orion. So thanks for that. You probably don’t remember this, but a few years ago there was this thread about big 80’s Flock of Seagulls and Glam rock hair and I put a picture up of myself when I was about 19. And you told me I was really pretty. And I said I would totally have dated you then if you bought the wine coolers or something like that 'cause that’s what we were into back in the day. Yeah, you probably don’t remember that, but I do. You’ve made me laugh many, many times. And have made me think about a lot of things from a different angle, too. Take care.

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[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

I believe you wrote in a thread earlier this year that you only give your husband sex on your anniversary, as in ONCE A YEAR, so you would qualify as a sex-withholding manipulative bitch. (unless you were joking, if so, I apologize - if not, my assertion stands)
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Shit just got real.[/quote]

Yeah. Well, I should have phrased by response as a question. Or just stayed out of it. I did sound judgmental. I’m not used to being talked to like that by anyone, so that’s a big clue, right?

You’ve always been pretty cool to me, Orion. So thanks for that. You probably don’t remember this, but a few years ago there was this thread about big 80’s Flock of Seagulls and Glam rock hair and I put a picture up of myself when I was about 19. And you told me I was really beautiful. And I said I would totally have dated you then if you bought the wine coolers or something like that 'cause that’s what we were into back in the day. Yeah, you probably don’t remember that, but I do. You’ve made me laugh many, many times. And have made me think about a lot of things from a different angle, too. Take care.
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What happened ?

And no, I dont remember that, but I do remember bringing a wine cooler to a date once.

That particular girl got her virginity taken by a guy a few months later who dumped her two weeks after that.

Felt good.

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
^ this..
all white knight shit aside. If having a side piece means. 1 family stays intact 2 wife continues to live same life 3 assets stay right then it is what it is. This all or nothing mentality is bs. Life is 1 big grey area. Not everything is black & white. Sometimes you gotta break some eggs to make an omelette.
No reason to keep a perfectly good dick in a jar. Fuck that im livin my life. Yall internet tuff guys that hate me so bad. Thats some weak ass shit. If you really have the time to invest in a anonymous mofo you really need to get a life.

deuces[/quote]

If you’re unwavering in your opinion then why’d you bother to ask a bunch of “anonymous mofos” in the first place? Or is this one of those deals where you dropped in just to see if people #agree with you?

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Opions are one thing…thats cool but throwing insults in this setting is just pussy shit.

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
Opions are one thing…thats cool but throwing insults in this setting is just pussy shit. [/quote]
ill rek u m8 i sware on me mom

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

I believe you wrote in a thread earlier this year that you only give your husband sex on your anniversary, as in ONCE A YEAR, so you would qualify as a sex-withholding manipulative bitch. (unless you were joking, if so, I apologize - if not, my assertion stands)
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Shit just got real.[/quote]

Yeah. Well, I should have phrased my response as a question. Or just stayed out of it. I did sound judgmental. I’m not used to being talked to like that by anyone, so that’s a big clue, right?

You’ve always been pretty cool to me, Orion. So thanks for that. You probably don’t remember this, but a few years ago there was this thread about big 80’s Flock of Seagulls and Glam rock hair and I put a picture up of myself when I was about 19. And you told me I was really pretty. And I said I would totally have dated you then if you bought the wine coolers or something like that 'cause that’s what we were into back in the day. Yeah, you probably don’t remember that, but I do. You’ve made me laugh many, many times. And have made me think about a lot of things from a different angle, too. Take care.
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What happened ?

And no, I dont remember that, but I do remember bringing a wine cooler to a date once.

That particular girl got her virginity taken by a guy a few months later who dumped her two weeks after that.

Felt good.

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