Anyways I was reviewing my nutrition/diet and coming back to things so I can make my diet plan and what not. Anyays it says bagel are bad carbohydrates.
Why? I always buy whole wheat, or multi grain bagels. If it’s whole wheat or multi grain isnt it supposed to be good. Just like whole wheat breads, pasta etc?
Thanks.
I’m interested in the answer to this as well.
Once in a while, in a real time crunch, I’ll grab a bacon, egg, and cheese on a multigrain bagel from Dunkin’s… I know it’s probably not the best choice, but is it that bad?
Bob
[quote]Norwell Bob wrote:
I’m interested in the answer to this as well.
Once in a while, in a real time crunch, I’ll grab a bacon, egg, and cheese on a multigrain bagel from Dunkin’s… I know it’s probably not the best choice, but is it that bad?
Bob[/quote]
anything that tastes that good cant be bad
It depends on your body type and your goals. Do you handle carbs well and are looking to bulk up? If so, chew away. If you don’t handle carbs well and/or are trying to lose weight, keep away from them.
Thanks Doug Adams.
I’ve always assumed that anything that says “100% whole wheat” is an ok carb. Maybe whatever you’re looking at is referring to what most people buy when they buy bagels, the plain “white bread” bagels.
[quote]dl- wrote:
Anyways I was reviewing my nutrition/diet and coming back to things so I can make my diet plan and what not. Anyays it says bagel are bad carbohydrates.
Why? I always buy whole wheat, or multi grain bagels. If it’s whole wheat or multi grain isnt it supposed to be good. Just like whole wheat breads, pasta etc?
Thanks.[/quote]
It’s pretty easy to get your product to say “whole wheat” or “whole grain”, and just because something says it is “whole wheat” doesn’t mean it is inherently better than its non-whole wheat counterparts, in fact, in some circumstances it may even be ‘worse’
My rule of thumb is to buy the thing with the fewest ingredients, the bread I buy from the local natural market only has 3 ingredients in it versus about 24 found in virtually any commercial bread. I also try not to rely on breads for carbohydrates or calories.
I’ve read enough to suggest our bodies(or at least most people’s bodies) don’t handle the carbs in bread ideally.
As for Bagels, I don’t see much reason to eat them outside of taste. They are not substantially more calorically dense than good bread, and commercially available bagels are often full of all manner of things I can’t pronounce.
[quote]Malevolence wrote:
dl- wrote:
Anyways I was reviewing my nutrition/diet and coming back to things so I can make my diet plan and what not. Anyays it says bagel are bad carbohydrates.
Why? I always buy whole wheat, or multi grain bagels. If it’s whole wheat or multi grain isnt it supposed to be good. Just like whole wheat breads, pasta etc?
Thanks.
It’s pretty easy to get your product to say “whole wheat” or “whole grain”, and just because something says it is “whole wheat” doesn’t mean it is inherently better than its non-whole wheat counterparts, in fact, in some circumstances it may even be ‘worse’
My rule of thumb is to buy the thing with the fewest ingredients, the bread I buy from the local natural market only has 3 ingredients in it versus about 24 found in virtually any commercial bread. I also try not to rely on breads for carbohydrates or calories.
I’ve read enough to suggest our bodies(or at least most people’s bodies) don’t handle the carbs in bread ideally.
As for Bagels, I don’t see much reason to eat them outside of taste. They are not substantially more calorically dense than good bread, and commercially available bagels are often full of all manner of things I can’t pronounce.[/quote]
Great post here essentially “whole wheat” means dick, Nada. They just take the whole wheat and process the hell mout of it. it was whole sure and they used waht was left.
Look for a High fiber content.
Phill
[quote]Dabubzilla wrote:
I’ve always assumed that anything that says “100% whole wheat” is an ok carb. Maybe whatever you’re looking at is referring to what most people buy when they buy bagels, the plain “white bread” bagels.[/quote]
“Whole wheat” is not good for you.
Whole wheat bread is not a whole grain food. It is made from flour and it digests rapidly and raises blood sugar.
“Whole grain” is ok depending on your goals and level of carb tolerance.
I think it was Charles Poliquin who said “If you want to be fat, eat bagels and do lots of cardio”
[quote]dl- wrote:
Anyways I was reviewing my nutrition/diet and coming back to things so I can make my diet plan and what not. Anyays it says bagel are bad carbohydrates.
Why? I always buy whole wheat, or multi grain bagels. If it’s whole wheat or multi grain isnt it supposed to be good. Just like whole wheat breads, pasta etc?
Thanks.[/quote]
I think the problem with Bagels is sheer carbohydrate density.
In an average bagel there is 60-90 carbs.
I don’t know what your diet is but that is a shitload of carbohydrates.
Also, since they are processed, that many carbs could be much better “spent” so to speak.
Unfortunately, most baked bread products are extremely carb dense and very heavily processed.
Basically, if there is such as thing as bad carbs, popular consumer breads and bagels are it.
Eat them if and when they align with your needs and goals…
Bagels are fucking delicious. Most people need to stop pretending like they’re bodybuilders dieting for a show. Eat some carbs and train hard.
Bagels with cream cheese and chocolate milk! Or bagels with cream cheese and jam! Or bagels with a fried egg and cream cheese and process cheese (and maybe some Candian bacon or ham)!
Bagels are fucking amazing in so many ways. If you’re not stepping on stage don’t fear a bagel. You don’t need to be a competitive bodybuilder to get laid, you know.
/end rant.
What was said above though is true, though. Most processed baked goods are low quality carbs in terms of poor nutritional density when considering the amount of calories being consumed.
Truth be told, the GI of specific carbohydrate-dense foods (i.e. potatoes, breads, etc) isn’t really that relevant when taken in context of an entire meal. When you eat carb-foods with protein-foods and fat-foods, the GI of the meal as a whole is what you want to look at.
So if you’re consuming a bagel with cream cheese, topped with a fried omelette with ham, veggies, and mozarella cheese, the GI of the meal is gonna be a lot different than the GI of the bagel eaten on its own.
Generally speaking, though, there are more nutritious choices for carb-dense foods. They’re just a lot less tasty and exciting. Bagels are a lot tastier than oatmeal or buckwheat, if you ask me.
Lots of breads (and I’m sure bagels too) claim 100% whole wheat but the first ingredient is 100% enriched wheat flour which defeats the purpose of whole grain foods.
Look for a sole ingredient of 100% stone ground wheat and you’re set. I do agree however with the above poster that some people sweat their diet like they have an Olympia to win in a few weeks. Saddest part is the biggest diet worriers are 175 lbs.
[quote]E-man wrote:
I do agree however with the above poster that some people sweat their diet like they have an Olympia to win in a few weeks. Saddest part is the biggest diet worriers are 175 lbs.[/quote]
Some people are just failing at their dieting so they need to pick out things they think are doing wrong (instead, of course, looking at the bigger picture). You may have you diet down pat, but I’m sure there are things in your life you treat the exact same way.
Give the guys a break just because there are wondering about bagels.
my opinion: go for whole wheat, and if it has at least 3 grams of dietary fiber, then it’s more than good enough for your average joe.
I would refer to Charles Poliquin’s articles about paleo and neo carbs. If a cave man could’ve found it, eat it. It also refers to your subscap measurement to predict carb tolerance. Remember, our genetics have not evolved that much in the last 20,000.00 years. I personally do not eat grains, and I stay pretty lean (under 8%) year round at 6’ 216…so…My fiber comes from nuts (almonds mostly). Compare a serving of grains and a serving of almonds for fiber content.
[quote]physioLojik wrote:
I would refer to charles poloquin’s articles about paleo and neo carbs. If a cave man could’ve found it, eat it. It also refers to your subscap measurement to predict carb tolerance. Remember, our genetics have not evolved that much in the last 20,000.00 years. I personally do not eat grains, and I stay pretty lean (under 8%) year round at 6’ 216…so…My fiber comes from nuts (almonds mostly). Compare a serving of grains and a serving of almonds for fiber content.[/quote]
Uhh I don’t know if you’re still a caveman or not, but I’m not. Most bagels are simple carbs, low in fat, with about 10 grams of protein. Have’em after a workout with a shake if you really want them.
My favorite grains are oatmeal and fiberone cereal. Oatmeal is a no-fucking-brainer, and well I just love the massive amount of fiber in fiberone. It’s like shitting liquid.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
E-man wrote:
I do agree however with the above poster that some people sweat their diet like they have an Olympia to win in a few weeks. Saddest part is the biggest diet worriers are 175 lbs.
Some people are just failing at their dieting so they need to pick out things they think are doing wrong (instead, of course, looking at the bigger picture). You may have you diet down pat, but I’m sure there are things in your life you treat the exact same way.
Give the guys a break just because there are wondering about bagels.[/quote]
In no way was I insulting the original poster but there are A LOT of people that worry about small shit that is significantly less important dietary wise then many other choices they make. An example- “Is it bad to eat a banana in the morning?” when later that night they go out and have 10 beers and 2 tubs of chicken wings.
[quote]Roy wrote:
physioLojik wrote:
I would refer to charles poloquin’s articles about paleo and neo carbs. If a cave man could’ve found it, eat it. It also refers to your subscap measurement to predict carb tolerance. Remember, our genetics have not evolved that much in the last 20,000.00 years. I personally do not eat grains, and I stay pretty lean (under 8%) year round at 6’ 216…so…My fiber comes from nuts (almonds mostly). Compare a serving of grains and a serving of almonds for fiber content.
Uhh I don’t know if you’re still a caveman or not, but I’m not. Most bagels are simple carbs, low in fat, with about 10 grams of protein. Have’em after a workout with a shake if you really want them.
My favorite grains are oatmeal and fiberone cereal. Oatmeal is a no-fucking-brainer, and well I just love the massive amount of fiber in fiberone. It’s like shitting liquid.[/quote]
I am of course not a caveman, but my genetics and yours still resemble theirs almost entirely. Their diet was comprised of left over kills from predators which contained mostly meet and epa and dha from brains and bone marrow. And in case you have never seen a picture of a caveman, they were quite muscular. In fact, their strength ratio was substantially higher than their modern man equivalent.