[quote]pietran30 wrote:
I really don’t understand y every1 on here is knocking on every1 else’s goals. If Trajj wants to feel like pyramids are important in his training routine then good for him lol. Do I use them? No, but that doesn’t give me the right to bash them.
Bottomline, there is not 1 person on here, aside from myself, that can tell me what works best for me. It also strikes me odd that certain members such as Scotacus really need to get off of professor X’s bird. Sure he as an impressive physique, but that is completely irrelovant to the topic of what works best for us, the individual.[/quote]
Knocking “every1 else’s goals” would be someone who logs on and degrades larger bodybuilders simply because they don’t train to do back bridges or “pyramids”. No one has knocked his goals. It has simply been stated that THAT is NOT bodybuilding.
TBT or split is not the issue. Every routine which makes you progress on squat and/or deadlift consistently works. The selection, frequency and load of all other exercises is of secondary importance respectively. You’ve all heard this, and so did I - 5 years ago.
But only now, by looking back and analysing my progress have I come to realize how true it is. The best program is the one which works your core and legs and best and safest. The volume to which other muscle groups are subjected should not exceed much the volume at which you work your core.
You may do more if you want but hypertrophy- and strengthwise that will be wasted effort and time. It won’t make you overtrain or regress but why do it? Legs react differently, however. It is possible to progress on legs even on the most frequent, voluminous and isolated routine.
Strong legs alone will never hurt your back and there is no inhibitory mechanism. It is possible to make dozens of effective routines meeting the criteria, both split and full body.
Personally I like high reps, low sets, a lot of different exercises and working your muscles to failure.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
pietran30 wrote:
I really don’t understand y every1 on here is knocking on every1 else’s goals. If Trajj wants to feel like pyramids are important in his training routine then good for him lol. Do I use them? No, but that doesn’t give me the right to bash them.
Bottomline, there is not 1 person on here, aside from myself, that can tell me what works best for me. It also strikes me odd that certain members such as Scotacus really need to get off of professor X’s bird. Sure he as an impressive physique, but that is completely irrelovant to the topic of what works best for us, the individual.
Knocking “every1 else’s goals” would be someone who logs on and degrades larger bodybuilders simply because they don’t train to do back bridges or “pyramids”. No one has knocked his goals. It has simply been stated that THAT is NOT bodybuilding.[/quote]
Yet many of those famous BB’s that came before us did them as part of their routines and taught others to do so because of there results…
As far as degrading, you and a couple of your lap dogs started in on page one. I never said TBT was better than split, except for me as a particular stage of my training. Nor did I start a pissing contest. But, I’m not going to back down from my viewpoints simply because you think you can’t be wrong. You’ve gotten results, so have I. You have goals, so have I. You’ve got things to share, so have I. I also tried to hold out the olive branch, but when shoved, I’m going to shove back. You want to stop the bitching and share info in a professional manner, I’m all for it.
And I’ll go ahead and do this publicly X, I apologize for knocking your photos. That was disrespectful and wrong. I don’t agree with you on some details, but I was wrong to knock your photos. You’ve obviously spent a great deal of time and effort to reach the point that you have.
[quote]TRAJJ wrote:
And I’ll go ahead and do this publicly X, I apologize for knocking your photos. That was disrespectful and wrong. I don’t agree with you on some details, but I was wrong to knock your photos. You’ve obviously spent a great deal of time and effort to reach the point that you have.
Peace.[/quote]
But see, I’m not the only person you’ve “knocked” in this thread, yet you wonder why you received the response you did.
You wrote:
[quote]I see these ass clowns with thighs so damn big they have to put a kotex and vasaline in between them so they don’t burst into flames when they walk. You may or may not think thats ‘jacked’ but I think its ludicrous. And uh yeah…I’ll use the word NON-FUNCTIONAL. Screw it if you and others don’t like it.
If you can bench 500 hundred but can’t go past 3 on a pyramid, in MY book you’re not a complete BBer.
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If someone can bench 500lbs, they have achieved what most people who even lift weights seriously could never do in a life time…yet you degrade big leg muscles, huge feats of strength and claim they aren’t complete because of your own personal obsession with “pyramids”, something I doubt anyone but you alone care about.
Yes, you did insult just about everyone who has serious goals in bodybuilding but then claim you are offering olive branches?
I can’t help but wonder if this offering is something like the British germ warfare on American Indians.
We have differing opinions, we have ‘somewhat’ different goals. That really shouldn’t be an issue and it’s a shame it became one. You gave as good as you got, but at any rate the apology was sincere. How you accept it is your own business.
In regards to pyramids, there are actually a large number of people that use them. Perhaps not in this particular thread, perhaps not in large numbers on this site. That is honestly to bad. A lot of ‘pros’ in the early days realized the benefit of the concept and passed it on in their writings. The benefits to a weight training program are many. They’re simple, but hard. At any rate, I use them in addition to my program as do many I associate with on a different board.
Upper lower splits similar to westside gave me my best results.
Got a lot of results from full body workouts based around squats, and dead lifts, bench press, weighted chins, and dips.
Complex splits work great too and I would use them more if I was serious about bodybuilding. I get the best results by far on my lagging body parts when I use these types of routines.
It’s funny, the people on the karate board I used to frequent liked hitting the makiwara, but that has absolutely nothing to do with bodybuilding routines. Hence why I thought I’d crowbar it in this thread.
As for something on topic, I found short, intense, heavy split workouts worked best for me. Usually around 30-40 minutes only a few exercises but often training 5-7 days a week.
[quote]Joe D. wrote:
It’s funny, the people on the karate board I used to frequent liked hitting the makiwara, but that has absolutely nothing to do with bodybuilding routines. Hence why I thought I’d crowbar it in this thread.[/quote]
TRAJJ,
Although I do like much of Professor X’s information, I think it is pointless to debate with him. I actually look forward to his posts since he is knowledgeable and experienced and a bright guy, he has got to be the most confrontational, arrogant, know-it-all busy body on this forum, a person who comes across as if there is nothing he does not know and that he is flawless.
I think if I was hanging out with someone this confrontational in real life, I’d be close to strangling him or her. Although, with all respect, in this case with Professor X, I might be the one getting strangled.
Prof, are you the type of guy, who in real life, doesn’t let anyone share an opinion or thought for conversation’s sake or actually just lets people engage in conversation for laid back conversation’s sake? I think being difficult at times might be beneficial at times or attractive to the opposite sex but I’d like to know if there have not been dozens of situations in which someone wanted to ring your neck because of your confrontation habit. I think its automatic with you. Someone says something in opposition> confront> start beef> repeat over and over ad infinitum ad nauseum.
All this aside though, I do like Prof’s postings for the most part.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
TRAJJ,
Although I do like much of Professor X’s information, I think it is pointless to debate with him. I actually look forward to his posts since he is knowledgeable and experienced and a bright guy, he has got to be the most confrontational, arrogant, know-it-all busy body on this forum, a person who comes across as if there is nothing he does not know and that he is flawless.
I think if I was hanging out with someone this confrontational in real life, I’d be close to strangling him or her. Although, with all respect, in this case with Professor X, I might be the one getting strangled.
Prof, are you the type of guy, who in real life, doesn’t let anyone share an opinion or thought for conversation’s sake or actually just lets people engage in conversation for laid back conversation’s sake? I think being difficult at times might be beneficial at times or attractive to the opposite sex but I’d like to know if there have not been dozens of situations in which someone wanted to ring your neck because of your confrontation habit. I think its automatic with you. Someone says something in opposition> confront> start beef> repeat over and over ad infinitum ad nauseum.
All this aside though, I do like Prof’s postings for the most part. [/quote]
I haven’t been in a confrontation with someone verbally or physically in over a decade. I also know what I am good at and where my foundation of knowledge is (people pay me for my opinion in my profession). I also did well on debate teams in high school. If someone actually had a decent point, they would obviously beat me in debate.
Coming onto a bodybuilding board and bashing bodybuilding while promoting non-bodybuilding related activities as being superior is not the way that would be done.
Sorry if that offends your delicate sensibilities.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
TRAJJ,
Although I do like much of Professor X’s information, I think it is pointless to debate with him. I actually look forward to his posts since he is knowledgeable and experienced and a bright guy, he has got to be the most confrontational, arrogant, know-it-all busy body on this forum, a person who comes across as if there is nothing he does not know and that he is flawless. [/quote]
LOL. X has got to get the biggest laughs from all the name calling he gets.
I still like what Prof has to say and no Prof, your writings do not offend my delicate sensibilities. As stated before, I know you are a bright professional. All I was stating was that if someone was as argumentative as you in real life, I would have the strong temptation to, my nerves would be frayed.
A Bodybuilding Pyramid involves starting out with light weight and high reps and working up to heavy weight low reps, when you peak you reverse the process.
For example:
100 x 10
150 x 8
200 x 6
250 x 4
300 x 2
250 x 4
200 x 6
150 x 8
100 x 10
Thanks for reminding me about them, they can be very effective.
A Bodybuilding Pyramid involves starting out with light weight and high reps and working up to heavy weight low reps, when you peak you reverse the process.
For example:
100 x 10
150 x 8
200 x 6
250 x 4
300 x 2
250 x 4
200 x 6
150 x 8
100 x 10
Thanks for reminding me about them, they can be very effective.[/quote]
That isn’t what the other poster was referring to. I still have no idea what “going past 3 on a pyramid” means and I really don’t care.
He was not talking about weight lifting, however…which is why the debate broke out.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dirty Tiger wrote:
kelleyb wrote:
Uh…
What’s a pyramid? (non Egyptian)
A Bodybuilding Pyramid involves starting out with light weight and high reps and working up to heavy weight low reps, when you peak you reverse the process.
For example:
100 x 10
150 x 8
200 x 6
250 x 4
300 x 2
250 x 4
200 x 6
150 x 8
100 x 10
Thanks for reminding me about them, they can be very effective.
That isn’t what the other poster was referring to. I still have no idea what “going past 3 on a pyramid” means and I really don’t care.
He was not talking about weight lifting, however…which is why the debate broke out.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dirty Tiger wrote:
kelleyb wrote:
Uh…
What’s a pyramid? (non Egyptian)
A Bodybuilding Pyramid involves starting out with light weight and high reps and working up to heavy weight low reps, when you peak you reverse the process.
For example:
100 x 10
150 x 8
200 x 6
250 x 4
300 x 2
250 x 4
200 x 6
150 x 8
100 x 10
Thanks for reminding me about them, they can be very effective.
That isn’t what the other poster was referring to. I still have no idea what “going past 3 on a pyramid” means and I really don’t care.
He was not talking about weight lifting, however…which is why the debate broke out.[/quote]
See, I didn’t think he was talking about that kind of pyramid. But thanks, DT for trying to help!
Oh well. I guess it doesn’t really matter, I’m just a curious cat sometimes.
