It’s still all about who you know.
Which in the OP’s case is limited to guys named Johnnie and some pretty quiet dude named Sam.
[quote]hardgnr wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
You sound almost exactly like a friend of mine, except he’s 31. You suffer from depression because your life sucks. You don’t need drugs, you don’t need therapy. You need to get a job.
Do you know how you get a career? You get a shitty entry level job where you work your ass off for peanuts, you learn a few skills, get some experience on your resume, and either you move up the ladder, or move to a new company that offers you slightly better hours, and slightly better pay. Eventually, this becomes a career. Welcome to adulthood.
lol…no. That’s called the rat race.[/quote]
It’s a hell of a lot better than living off mommy and daddy when you’re well into your thirties.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I knew way too many “Communications majors” and “phys education majors”. They chose their majors because they could sleep until 12 for most of their classes. It doesn’t hit them how that might be a mistake until graduation.
If you are in college, looking at the average salary of the career you are trying to go into should go hand in hand with actually filling out your initial schedule.[/quote]
Agreed, except comm majors actually tend to be pretty successful - it really is all about who you know and they’re field is ALL about networking. My roommate is a comm major although he focuses in PR, but he says even the lazy comm majors get jobs because just by virtue of being a comm major you get connections with people at various businesses.
[quote]nowakc wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I knew way too many “Communications majors” and “phys education majors”. They chose their majors because they could sleep until 12 for most of their classes. It doesn’t hit them how that might be a mistake until graduation.
If you are in college, looking at the average salary of the career you are trying to go into should go hand in hand with actually filling out your initial schedule.
Agreed, except comm majors actually tend to be pretty successful - it really is all about who you know and they’re field is ALL about networking. My roommate is a comm major although he focuses in PR, but he says even the lazy comm majors get jobs because just by virtue of being a comm major you get connections with people at various businesses.[/quote]
At my college, I would have put most of them on the same level as the insane number of women I knew who all wanted to be teachers but who I would never let near any child I was even the Godfather of.
I have no doubt that someone dedicated could do well if they put the time in. I just knew way too many who were only in that major because they thought it was easy and they were trying to be famous somehow…only without the talent.
OP I was like you 4 years ago, now I’m no different, but my friends are. They’re all divorced or on their way, got kids that are brats that spend all their money. They bitch about having to stay home because they are single parents, or if they’re the father they bitch about child support. They attempt to go out and be young again, except… they go to the club at 7:00, and are worn out by 10:00 drunk of a 1.5 drinks, and all the “young” people laugh at them because they are about 10 years out of style.
Now the “young” people are really your age, but look young. However since you didn’t talk to them you think your soooo much older then them, but trust me theres alot more people like you out there then you think. The only ones that are really young at the club is the group of girls that looks exceptionally good, everybody is sweating them, if it’s a club security spotted them soon as they came on the street and opened the club door for them. They get in, lie and say they’re 25, but who cares get yours they get there’s and wait til the next week.
Just do this repeatedly until you grow up, obviously you haven’t been forced to so who cares live life.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
OP I was like you 4 years ago, now I’m no different, but my friends are. They’re all divorced or on their way, got kids that are brats that spend all their money. They bitch about having to stay home because they are single parents, or if they’re the father they bitch about child support. They attempt to go out and be young again, except… they go to the club at 7:00, and are worn out by 10:00 drunk of a 1.5 drinks, and all the “young” people laugh at them because they are about 10 years out of style.
Now the “young” people are really your age, but look young. However since you didn’t talk to them you think your soooo much older then them, but trust me theres alot more people like you out there then you think. The only ones that are really young at the club is the group of girls that looks exceptionally good, everybody is sweating them, if it’s a club security spotted them soon as they came on the street and opened the club door for them. They get in, lie and say they’re 25, but who cares get yours they get there’s and wait til the next week.
Just do this repeatedly until you grow up, obviously you haven’t been forced to so who cares live life.[/quote]
You sound like a great mentor for the OP. Maybe you can start crashing weddings together…or funerals.
OP, why don’t you go join the Navy Seals?
DB
[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
I’m one of my last friends drinking pints of gin[/quote]
Switch to Guiness
What are you, dying or something? Barring any accidents or serious illness, you’ve got another 50 years. Go to a book store and get The Magic of Thinking Big right now.
[quote]Now apparently my student loans are going to come due soon and I have no money.
I’m not sure I see many ways out of this. I don’t have a way to earn enough money to cover loans and basic living expenses. I was doing well with stocks and then the market crashed and I lost 95% of my money. I started with a few hundred bucks and worked my waaaaay up.[/quote]
Get ANY job. Get two or three. Be a bartender, and you might actually meet people who do what you like to do.
Or read more books like the one I recommended above.
OK, so you lost your hard earned stock market money. I’d be extremely upset and pissed too. However, you know how to do it and you can make it back faster because you already made a crap load of mistakes already (I’m assuming) and learned what not to do.
[quote]craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawling in myyyyyyyyyyyy skin, etc.
[/quote]
And stop listening to crybaby Linkin Park and get some Pantera or B.I.G. “Juicy” will put have you lookin’ up again.
[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
- Join army, get training, actually work for a living.
[/quote]
Been there too. Now I am in college. I guess the two cancel each other out? So now, I am at point 0, right?
This is turning into another one of those “College isn’t worth it” threads that we all love so much.
First, it’s: “College isn’t worth it because all you need to do is get your foot in the door”
Then it’s: “College could be worth it if you get a degree in something other than liberal arts, or some social science”
Then it’s: “A college degree today is the same as a high school degree yesterday, without one you will be SOL.”
Next it will be: “Well, Bill Gates didn’t have a college degree…”
Then it will be back to: “College is for dipshits, don’t go unless you just want to binge drink for 4 years and waste 40K+ on a piece of paper that says you actually showed up for class 30% of the time.”
I’m so confused now… Should I drop out of college? What does the internet say?
You’ve got some serious issues. I never said college isn’t worth it, I said that going to school constantly and wracking up huge debt while never getting a job then bitching about feeling like a loser is retarded.
It is retarded.
I don’t really give a flying fuck what you do with your life. I don’t know you, but you sounded like an ass with your little numbered steps. So I called you one.
Ass.
Read this, man up, get to work.
[IF]
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!
--Rudyard Kipling
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
MarvelGirl wrote:
- Join army, get training, actually work for a living.
Been there too. Now I am in college. I guess the two cancel each other out? So now, I am at point 0, right?
This is turning into another one of those “College isn’t worth it” threads that we all love so much.
First, it’s: “College isn’t worth it because all you need to do is get your foot in the door”
Then it’s: “College could be worth it if you get a degree in something other than liberal arts, or some social science”
Then it’s: “A college degree today is the same as a high school degree yesterday, without one you will be SOL.”
Next it will be: “Well, Bill Gates didn’t have a college degree…”
Then it will be back to: “College is for dipshits, don’t go unless you just want to binge drink for 4 years and waste 40K+ on a piece of paper that says you actually showed up for class 30% of the time.”
I’m so confused now… Should I drop out of college? What does the internet say?[/quote]
College is absolutely worth it if you’re a science or applied science major or are sure that you will get into law school at the end of your undergraduate work. Otherwise, it is not.
I have a ton of friends who were fuzzy studies majors that are no better off now than they were before they went to college.
There are alternatives to 4 year schools, like technical degrees. They pay pretty well, you just have to be willing to do the work.
I’ve been telling my friend for ten years to go get a technical degree, but he can’t even manage to show up for the first day of class after enrolling. I’m sure that he’ll be doing the same thing in another 10 years.
[quote]nowakc wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I knew way too many “Communications majors” and “phys education majors”. They chose their majors because they could sleep until 12 for most of their classes. It doesn’t hit them how that might be a mistake until graduation.
If you are in college, looking at the average salary of the career you are trying to go into should go hand in hand with actually filling out your initial schedule.
Agreed, except comm majors actually tend to be pretty successful - it really is all about who you know and they’re field is ALL about networking. My roommate is a comm major although he focuses in PR, but he says even the lazy comm majors get jobs because just by virtue of being a comm major you get connections with people at various businesses.[/quote]
Wait a minute ‘your roommate says…’? Are you still in college? If that is the case, then I will grant you, the OP has shown a regrettable lack of commonsense, or initiative for that matter, but you might be better off keeping out of this one. You havent accomplished anything yet. You might be very well set up to do so, but I wouldnt congratulate yourself until you do.
College is worth it if you have goals that require you to go to colllege…I think what a lot of people are saying is that the importance of college in accomplishing many goals is overstated. For many jobs, tech schools do pretty well.
I’m not saying no one should ever get a degree in psychology or sociology or philosophy. But those that do should be aware that you’re going to need to get a masters or, in the case of philosophy or sociology, a Ph.D. in order to be able to compete for available jobs.
If it’s truly what you love, by all means, go this route. I’m just annoyed with the people who act like they’re all blindsided by the lack of opportunities in a particular field when that information was available to them all along.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
Wait a minute ‘your roommate says…’? Are you still in college? If that is the case, then I will grant you, the OP has shown a regrettable lack of commonsense, or initiative for that matter, but you might be better off keeping out of this one. You havent accomplished anything yet. You might be very well set up to do so, but I wouldnt congratulate yourself until you do.[/quote]
I’m a college grad and have been working for over a year now out of college as a software architect. I’m not saying i’m amazing or anything, but I’m proud of what i’ve accomplished for someone my age (23), and have worked my ass off and made good decisions to get there.
I’ve graduated debt free though and make 70k a year out of college at a job where I only have to put in 40 hours a week. I guess i’m hardly a seasoned veteran in life with tons of experience though, so I get where you’re coming from and the OP should probably listen to those who have had to face challenges similar to what he’s facing, so i’ll shut up.
I live with a couple college students though, hence the roommate, and I just had to agree about the people who bitch about gettting useless degrees since I have encountered it so much.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Fella… you worry me.
You drink too much and you are always depressed.
You need some friends and you need a counselor.
stop punshing yourself… this is what you are doing
[/quote]
OG, sometimes a man just needs to see a pair of breasts.
You know what to do.
/high-five
[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
You’ve got some serious issues. I never said college isn’t worth it, I said that going to school constantly and wracking up huge debt while never getting a job then bitching about feeling like a loser is retarded.
It is retarded.
I don’t really give a flying fuck what you do with your life. I don’t know you, but you sounded like an ass with your little numbered steps. So I called you one.
Ass.[/quote]
Step 1. You’ve got serious issues…
Step 2. retarded bitch loser…
Step 3. Flying fuck ass…
Step 4. ???
Step 5. PROFIT!
rofl, get all asshurt about it.
True story:
One of my friends came into school as a computer science major. He got a ‘D’ in his first data structures class and decided to switch to poli sci. 5 years on, he’s gotten his EMT (they make $10/hr), worked as an ambulance driver, tried to become a fireman (every guy now wants to be a fireman), and is now enrolled in a nursing program to become an RN (which requires 4 more years, I think). Which would have been easier for him, sucking it up in the computer science curriculum or what he’s doing now? I’m pretty sure I know what I would have done (and what I told him to do at the time), but he wouldn’t do it.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
True story:
One of my friends came into school as a computer science major. He got a ‘D’ in his first data structures class and decided to switch to poli sci. 5 years on, he’s gotten his EMT (they make $10/hr), worked as an ambulance driver, tried to become a fireman (every guy now wants to be a fireman), and is now enrolled in a nursing program to become an RN (which requires 4 more years, I think). Which would have been easier for him, sucking it up in the computer science curriculum or what he’s doing now? I’m pretty sure I know what I would have done (and what I told him to do at the time), but he wouldn’t do it. [/quote]
That depends. If there was a “D” on my transcript in college, I would have screwed any chances of doing what I am doing now.
Some people just need to find for themselves what they are good at. I agree though, there is definitely something wrong when someone simply can not commit at all. That seems to be his problem. Nursing school isn’t easy. If easy is what he is looking for, he won’t find it in too many careers that actually pay well.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
True story:
…tried to become a fireman (every guy now wants to be a fireman), and is now enrolled in a nursing program to become an RN (which requires 4 more years, I think). …[/quote]
How long did he work on becoming a fireman?