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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I was told my education is not an objective means for determining my knowledge base.
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Nope, you were told:

There are people on this site who are friendly, humble, and knowledgeable as can be verified via objective means (PL meets, BBing contests, Degrees and Certifications in Nutrition, Kinesiology and fields specific to what gets discussed, not 'Well, Biology is Biology") and they actually create a wonderful collective source of information, support, and a friendly atmosphere.

But YOU decided (whether consciously or not) to read into it as the verification of other peoples’ credentials was a questioning of the validity of yours.

Imagine that, misconstruing what someone else wrote so you can get all uppity and start talking about yourself. That almost never happens -lol

S[/quote]

LOL.

What baffles me is that you spend this much time worrying about my “attitude”.[/quote]

I have a feeling that nothing really baffles you.

S[/quote]

It doesn’t. You are very easy to read.

You focus on personal issues
to a fault. You do not control who I am as a person and nothing is being written here that is so foul it needs your moral superiority showing me the way to the land of the promised.[/quote]

Okay, you got me X. All that Doctor training must have prepared you to psychoanalyze people via the internet as well. Sadly you don’t even realize that I’m probably one of the few guys here who still gives you the benefit of the doubt when you discuss training and competitive bodybuilding topics despite the fact that you continually act like a child.

Maybe perhaps I hold some deep wish that you’ll simply become a nicer online person and all of this crap will disappear, and we’ll all get along even when people disagree with you.

S

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

I disagree.

And yes there were.
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Then post them or please excuse yourself.[/quote]

You have done it in all your previous posts. No need to repeats now. But I will excuse myself. Off to the child’s table or a thread that is actually productive until you show up to fuck another one up. Bye

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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

Okay, you got me X. All that Doctor training must have prepared you to psychoanalyze people via the internet as well. [/quote]

Nope. Life did that way better.

[quote]
Sadly you don’t even realize that I’m probably one of the few guys here who still gives you the benefit of the doubt when you discuss training and competitive bodybuilding topics despite the fact that you continually act like a child. [/quote]

I don’t need your support, guy. I can back up what I write all by myself.

I seriously doubt that if you polled the website, people would see me as providing no info or that what I write is useless.

You and others choose to fill threads with this
some kind of pseudo-superior moral bs where you think you need to tell me how to write or act.

I am here to discuss how to build big muscles and big strength.

What you think of me just gives me more to write about in response.

My avatar pic is recent. Those shoulders look like they know how to lift.

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@X-I wouldn’t presume to speak for everyone. It’s just silly that you think that having one or two guys take your side means you are justified in your behavior. Silly.
@SteelyD-My apologies. I shouldn’t have included you in this situation. I just find it odd that X is allowed to reference anyone he wants on this site to further his agenda (Bauber), but if I do it I’m out of line. I won’t reference you in the future, Steely. My bad.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

Okay, you got me X. All that Doctor training must have prepared you to psychoanalyze people via the internet as well. [/quote]

Nope. Life did that way better.

Couldn’t help myself. But really are you that full of yourself? Wow

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[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
@X-I wouldn’t presume to speak for everyone. It’s just silly that you think that having one or two guys take your side means you are justified in your behavior. Silly.[/quote]

It is silly you think having the same “8-10” guys ranting in every thread I write in justifies yours.

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@X-Those shoulders look like they were built by carrying the weight of a thousand insecurities.

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[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Oh, X. Buddy, pal, sonny. Just because one guy (flipcollar) pops in and takes your side doesn’t make you right, champ. Really, what is it at this point, 5 or so guys on your side and the rest of us on the other? You are way outnumbered. And, it’s not because we are unfair or out to get you, it’s because you are the one who is wrong often. I’m sorry, scout.[/quote]

A few posts ago you mentioned that X sounds worse than you guys. Then you post something like this? Just because I’m the only one speaking up about it doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of people reading this that can see the same things I do.

As far as your comment about me having a dog in the fight: my point was that I don’t have a vested interest in any of the posters here. I like most of you guys, and can pull up posts from all of you that I’ve gotten something out of. It doesn’t matter to me who’s right or wrong in this. Since I haven’t been engaged in the conversation, I felt like I had a reasonable perspective on what I read, and I called it like I saw it. You’re welcome to take it how you like.

@Utah - I’m concerning myself with this thread, because I like T Nation. I feel a brotherhood with you, X, and everyone else here. We all came here for the same reason - the iron game. You don’t seem to realize that when 3 or more of the front page threads are essentially shit storms that look just like this, it hurts everyone here. The thread is called ‘What naturals are capable of’. I’m interested in the topic, so I read it. I get this. It sucks. I have a personal interest in this site not sucking. So do the thousands of regulars who aren’t posting in this thread.

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Oh, X. Buddy, pal, sonny. Just because one guy (flipcollar) pops in and takes your side doesn’t make you right, champ. Really, what is it at this point, 5 or so guys on your side and the rest of us on the other? You are way outnumbered. And, it’s not because we are unfair or out to get you, it’s because you are the one who is wrong often. I’m sorry, scout.[/quote]

A few posts ago you mentioned that X sounds worse than you guys. Then you post something like this? Just because I’m the only one speaking up about it doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of people reading this that can see the same things I do.

As far as your comment about me having a dog in the fight: my point was that I don’t have a vested interest in any of the posters here. I like most of you guys, and can pull up posts from all of you that I’ve gotten something out of. It doesn’t matter to me who’s right or wrong in this. Since I haven’t been engaged in the conversation, I felt like I had a reasonable perspective on what I read, and I called it like I saw it. You’re welcome to take it how you like.

@Utah - I’m concerning myself with this thread, because I like T Nation. I feel a brotherhood with you, X, and everyone else here. We all came here for the same reason - the iron game. You don’t seem to realize that when 3 or more of the front page threads are essentially shit storms that look just like this, it hurts everyone here. The thread is called ‘What naturals are capable of’. I’m interested in the topic, so I read it. I get this. It sucks. I have a personal interest in this site not sucking. So do the thousands of regulars who aren’t posting in this thread.[/quote]

Thank you
and honestly, I will try to avoid adding to it
but when every single post I write gets this, it becomes impossible.

They seem to be trying to get me to stop posting here for some reason.

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@flipcollar-Hey, I have no qualms with you. In fact, I have nothing against anyone, even X. I don’t know how many times I’ve tried to get along with him or offer a compliment of take an objective outlook on a situation. I’m just a “call it like I see it” kind of guy. I don’t put up with an individual talking down to others or making veiled insults. I would love to get along with everyone. It just doesn’t seem like many here want to get along right now.

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@X-I agree that many here probably are trying to get you to stop posting here. I, personally, don’t have an opinion on that matter. However, are you really surprised after all the times you’ve argued with them that they want you to go? That’s just what happens when you upset enough people: they rally to try and push you out.

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[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
@flipcollar-Hey, I have no qualms with you. In fact, I have nothing against anyone, even X. I don’t know how many times I’ve tried to get along with him or offer a compliment of take an objective outlook on a situation. I’m just a “call it like I see it” kind of guy. I don’t put up with an individual talking down to others or making veiled insults. I would love to get along with everyone. It just doesn’t seem like many here want to get along right now.[/quote]

I don’t think you have a problem with me. I quoted you because your post was so inflammatory towards X. The scout/buddy/pal stuff just fans the flames, doesn’t help anyone. I’m pretty sure I’ve read just about every post you’ve made on this site, and I think you’re a pretty good poster most of the time, even in the context of this thread.

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[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
@X-I agree that many here probably are trying to get you to stop posting here. I, personally, don’t have an opinion on that matter. However, are you really surprised after all the times you’ve argued with them that they want you to go? That’s just what happens when you upset enough people: they rally to try and push you out.[/quote]

It makes me think they feel threatened
because they know if they stop shouting me down in every thread, people will read what I write.

In my opinion, it is why they try so hard. There could be no other reason. Nothing has been written to cause all of this.

You would think I was personally insulting people like they are to me
when it is NOT happening.

I get told I am fat and weak
by people with way less muscle than me. I get told I a “just a dentist” by people with less education.

This shit is old. People can decide for themselves who to listen to. They don’t need you and friends screaming in every thread telling them I am a troll for responding at all or acting like anyone who agrees with me is an alternate account.

Let it go and stay on topic for once.

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Well, it’s funny. I was nodding my head in agreement with most post all the way up until you said, “They don’t need you and friends screaming in every thread telling them I am a troll for responding at all or acting like anyone who agrees with me is an alternate account”. You really need to stop doing that. You don’t have any reason to just lump me into a group of posters just because I happen to agree with them sometimes.

I am my own person with my own opinions and deserved to be treated as such. I respond the way I do to you solely because of the responses I have gotten from you. I don’t give you trouble because I am part of some team of posters trying to put you down. You need to see that. You catch flak from me because of how you have addressed me previously.

You need to understand that all of these guys aren’t giving you shit because you are black, or because they are jealous, or threatened (whatever that means), or what have you. Chances are, you’ve just pissed off every single one of them at some point. You need to own up to how you treat others. And, as far as acting like I’ve ever “screamed in a thread saying you are a troll or acting like you have alternate accounts”, you are mistaken. I have never done anything like that.

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We’re now all 1/2 natty like Matt Ogus

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Still everybody’s fault but X’s? OK
sounds good.

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Oh, X. Buddy, pal, sonny. Just because one guy (flipcollar) pops in and takes your side doesn’t make you right, champ. Really, what is it at this point, 5 or so guys on your side and the rest of us on the other? You are way outnumbered. And, it’s not because we are unfair or out to get you, it’s because you are the one who is wrong often. I’m sorry, scout.[/quote]

A few posts ago you mentioned that X sounds worse than you guys. Then you post something like this? Just because I’m the only one speaking up about it doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of people reading this that can see the same things I do.

As far as your comment about me having a dog in the fight: my point was that I don’t have a vested interest in any of the posters here. I like most of you guys, and can pull up posts from all of you that I’ve gotten something out of. It doesn’t matter to me who’s right or wrong in this. Since I haven’t been engaged in the conversation, I felt like I had a reasonable perspective on what I read, and I called it like I saw it. You’re welcome to take it how you like.

@Utah - I’m concerning myself with this thread, because I like T Nation. I feel a brotherhood with you, X, and everyone else here. We all came here for the same reason - the iron game. You don’t seem to realize that when 3 or more of the front page threads are essentially shit storms that look just like this, it hurts everyone here. The thread is called ‘What naturals are capable of’. I’m interested in the topic, so I read it. I get this. It sucks. I have a personal interest in this site not sucking. So do the thousands of regulars who aren’t posting in this thread.[/quote]

I’ve got zero beef with you flip
thanks for caring
but I have been putting up with his shit for too long
can’t I just won’t walk away from his blatant asshollery anymore.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

This is getting Insaely childish. Now you can’t even have a discussion you have to repost what someone else says. It’s just like when I was a child In an arguement and would repeat the same thing over and over. Lol
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He summed it up best.

You are just mad because someone else besides me told you.

That hinders your ability to act like everyone who agrees with me is an alternate account.

Sucks for you, huh?[/quote]

Missed this gem. It was posted before I said I was done soooooo

I am not mad. Not even a little bit

I act like myself and have never once commented or agreed with that little nugget you brought up

Not sure how any of those (again false statements like usual) makes anything suck for me.

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can’t wait until everyone realizes they are grown men arguing over nothing

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
What the fuck is going on?

Is there really a middle aged man in here trying to convince a bunch of college-aged blokes he had a more rigorous curriculum than them like 15 years ago or whatever?

You are a sad, sad man Prof X. You are like that guy who was star quarterback in the 80s and still lingers around at all the home games telling stories of his greatness. I guess I’ll just come right out and say I feel bad for you.

And btw, why do your academic credentials keep sneaking into all these unrelated threads? I am smarter than you. I have accomplished more in the world of academia than you have. I just don’t talk about it. Get off your high horse. PLENTY of guys here are smarter than you. We just don’t talk about it. You always have to ask yourself why someone might feel a constant need to defend how smart they are. It’s old.

I don’t give a shit if you graduated top of class from Harvard. No one here does and they are really only dignifying your posts with a response because they are young students with extra time on their hands. Every god damn post of yours REEKS of insecurity. [/quote]
Gee, did you have to walk to college barefoot up hill both ways in the snow?
I didn’t think so.[/quote]

I went to school where there were 9 months of winter weather basically. -40 wind chills blasting you to smithereens when you tried to walk to lecture
does that count? [/quote]

Me too

I am guessing if this is actually true you weren’t in Cali then.
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Undergrad in Indiana. Grad out in cali.