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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

I’ve said it before, but if you truly were the stats, knowledge and accomplishments that you claim, you’d at least be on any other site as well where pros, industry folk, and some very well know coaches and nutritionists could discuss and learn from you. Instead you stay here, arguing with anyone who has some knowledge or accomplishments and berating those who haven’t reached that point yet, while treating it as educating them.[/quote]

This has to be a joke. You are calling me a liar on my stats?

Who am I berating?

Please list the people being berated based on what they accomplished.

I’ll wait.

This entire statement makes no sense because no one is being berated on what they built but me in these threads.

I am here for people to learn from me.

That is hard to do when I try to do that and get told, “I am just a dentist” as if that means I am not educated in these matters.

[quote]

Once again you’ve taken a thread that wasn’t about you )pretty sure it was on what natural trained can accomplish) and twisted it in a storm of crap.

I’ll never understand how someone who constantly professes to care about the reputation of this site can single handedly be responsible for the negativity I’ve seen it receive in other places online.

S[/quote]

How am I responsible for the negativity if I am the one getting the insults constantly thrown at him?

Did you think this post from you was a POSITIVE addition to the site?

Why is someone with your credentials on a site like this berating a person like me?

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]willden wrote:
Omg x claimed he’s a dentist, let’s see a copy of his license. And Stu said he’s 40, I don’t believe that shit I wanna see a copy of his birth certificate to back up that claim.[/quote]

X is not a dentist

there is no need to be upset… I was just merely stating facts. there is no need to behave like you are behaving[/quote]

It is posts like these that I don’t get. It is also why sometimes I think that race may be involved because it makes little sense for it to be this hard to believe someone who looks like me does what I do and actually has an educated background in much of the information we discuss here.

This site seems to be turning into a bunch of guys berating guys who aren’t extra lean…while claiming that they are doing it because it is being done to them…when I see NO ONE berating anyone for how lean they are.

That makes these argument threads pointless.

Some of you are arguing with people who have built twice as much muscle as you have…but feel the need to tear that down in some way.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]willden wrote:
Omg x claimed he’s a dentist, let’s see a copy of his license. And Stu said he’s 40, I don’t believe that shit I wanna see a copy of his birth certificate to back up that claim.[/quote]

X is not a dentist

there is no need to be upset… I was just merely stating facts. there is no need to behave like you are behaving[/quote]

It is posts like these that I don’t get. It is also why sometimes I think that race may be involved because it makes little sense for it to be this hard to believe someone who looks like me does what I do and actually has an educated background in much of the information we discuss here.

This site seems to be turning into a bunch of guys berating guys who aren’t extra lean…while claiming that they are doing it because it is being done to them…when I see NO ONE berating anyone for how lean they are.

That makes these argument threads pointless.

Some of you are arguing with people who have built twice as much muscle as you have…but feel the need to tear that down in some way.[/quote]
Have you once again took out the well worn and oft used race card?

I think you get called out because you are a prick. Sorry to be so blunt but that’s what you are in my opinion. I would be racist if I thought you were a prick because you were black however I just think you are a prick because well… your’e a prick

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Why don’t you just go away?
Almost no one on here cares about your opinions/advice and obviously most find you annoying.
Why hang out with a crowd that doesn’t like you (be it justified or not)?
Just imagine for a sec how awkward such a behavior would be in real life.
Personally, I think you could be a valuable member due to your experience, if you would just drop the bullshit attitude and open up your mind.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:

[quote]some_dude wrote:

[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:

20lbs outside the table, over 100 years ago, without protein shakes, creatine, steroids, slin or GH.

Apparently these people never existed and can’t possibly now because someone came up with a table.
[/quote]

  • Weight - 204 pounds; Height - 5’, 9 1/2"

At 15% that would be 174lbs of LBM… which is pretty average among muscular men.

  • Billed weight: 99kg (219 pounds)

At 20% that’s 175lbs of LBM.[/quote]

He is not 15% or even 20% in the photos I’ve seen of him.

Do you think that the fact you added 5% to his bodyfat level at the higher weight say anything about which side you picked before you posted?
[/quote]

You’re an idiot.
[/quote]

And you are who exactly? Please copy and paste the most useful and articulated post you’ve made in the last two weeks.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

I’ve said it before, but if you truly were the stats, knowledge and accomplishments that you claim, you’d at least be on any other site as well where pros, industry folk, and some very well know coaches and nutritionists could discuss and learn from you. Instead you stay here, arguing with anyone who has some knowledge or accomplishments and berating those who haven’t reached that point yet, while treating it as educating them.[/quote]

This has to be a joke. You are calling me a liar on my stats?

Who am I berating?

Please list the people being berated based on what they accomplished.

I’ll wait.

This entire statement makes no sense because no one is being berated on what they built but me in these threads.

I am here for people to learn from me.

That is hard to do when I try to do that and get told, “I am just a dentist” as if that means I am not educated in these matters.

[quote]

Once again you’ve taken a thread that wasn’t about you )pretty sure it was on what natural trained can accomplish) and twisted it in a storm of crap.

I’ll never understand how someone who constantly professes to care about the reputation of this site can single handedly be responsible for the negativity I’ve seen it receive in other places online.

S[/quote]

How am I responsible for the negativity if I am the one getting the insults constantly thrown at him?

Did you think this post from you was a POSITIVE addition to the site?

Why is someone with your credentials on a site like this berating a person like me? [/quote]

He wasn’t berating you

I found the post positive because he articulated his thoughts which I agree better and in a much nicer tone than I could have.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

He wasn’t berating you
[/quote]

Bullshit. Questioning my credentials is berating me. Spending his own time making several posts over several threads about me to ONLY discuss how he thinks I am causing this is berating me if he then claims I should be questioned on my credentials for doing the same thing he does.

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
Why don’t you just go away?
Almost no one on here cares about your opinions/advice and obviously most find you annoying.
Why hang out with a crowd that doesn’t like you (be it justified or not)?
Just imagine for a sec how awkward such a behavior would be in real life.
Personally, I think you could be a valuable member due to your experience, if you would just drop the bullshit attitude and open up your mind.
[/quote]

Also bullshit…because if what I wrote was so easily overlooked and meant nothing, so many of you wouldn’t feel so threatened by me posting.

People would simply ignore my “useless” posts.

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[quote]steven alex wrote:

I think you get called out because you are a prick. [/quote]

Ahhh, so that is why people are claiming I am small fat and weak when I’m not?

I think you are a prick. What now?

I personally don’t disregard what someone is saying based on personal issues like you if it can help me.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]steven alex wrote:

I think you get called out because you are a prick. [/quote]

Ahhh, so that is why people are claiming I am small fat and weak when I’m not?

I think you are a prick. What now?

I personally don’t disregard what someone is saying based on personal issues like you if it can help me.[/quote]
I was just pointing out that race has nothing at all about you getting shit, it’s just that your views aren’t held in as high regard as a lot of the more advanced posters and you get pissed off about that to such an extent that you come across as a prick.

But hey don’t just take my word for it.

But race has fuck all to do with it and you know it.

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There was some good discussion happening in here but not anymore.
I wonder what changed???

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]willden wrote:
Omg x claimed he’s a dentist, let’s see a copy of his license. And Stu said he’s 40, I don’t believe that shit I wanna see a copy of his birth certificate to back up that claim.[/quote]

X is not a dentist

there is no need to be upset… I was just merely stating facts. there is no need to behave like you are behaving[/quote]

It is posts like these that I don’t get. It is also why sometimes I think that race may be involved because it makes little sense for it to be this hard to believe someone who looks like me does what I do and actually has an educated background in much of the information we discuss here.[/quote]

nailed it x, I think you’re stupid because you’re black.

aren’t you an orthodontic surgeon? I feel like I remember you saying that.

sorry that you’re black btw, that must be really tough

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[quote]steven alex wrote:

I was just pointing out that race has nothing at all about you getting shit, it’s just that your views aren’t held in as high regard as a lot of the more advanced posters and you get pissed off about that to such an extent that you come across as a prick.[/quote]

What is “more advanced”?

We all come from different backgrounds…and unless somehow knowledge of how the human body works along with several years of above average personal progress mean nothing…then who is “more advanced”…and it what way?

There are things I know more about just like there are things some others know more about.

That is why this is a discussion forum.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]willden wrote:
Omg x claimed he’s a dentist, let’s see a copy of his license. And Stu said he’s 40, I don’t believe that shit I wanna see a copy of his birth certificate to back up that claim.[/quote]

X is not a dentist

there is no need to be upset… I was just merely stating facts. there is no need to behave like you are behaving[/quote]

It is posts like these that I don’t get. It is also why sometimes I think that race may be involved because it makes little sense for it to be this hard to believe someone who looks like me does what I do and actually has an educated background in much of the information we discuss here.[/quote]

nailed it x, I think you’re stupid because you’re black.

aren’t you an orthodontic surgeon? I feel like I remember you saying that.

sorry that you’re black btw, that must be really tough[/quote]

It wasn’t about you making that mistake alone but the very fact that I have gotten MUCH crap over my profession over the years.

If that doesn’t describe you, then apologies.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]willden wrote:
Omg x claimed he’s a dentist, let’s see a copy of his license. And Stu said he’s 40, I don’t believe that shit I wanna see a copy of his birth certificate to back up that claim.[/quote]

X is not a dentist

there is no need to be upset… I was just merely stating facts. there is no need to behave like you are behaving[/quote]

It is posts like these that I don’t get. It is also why sometimes I think that race may be involved because it makes little sense for it to be this hard to believe someone who looks like me does what I do and actually has an educated background in much of the information we discuss here.[/quote]

nailed it x, I think you’re stupid because you’re black.

aren’t you an orthodontic surgeon? I feel like I remember you saying that.

sorry that you’re black btw, that must be really tough[/quote]

It wasn’t about you making that mistake alone but the very fact that I have gotten MUCH crap over my profession over the years.

If that doesn’t describe you, then apologies.
[/quote]

I guess that would be my mistake then… could have sworn you said you were an ortho surgeon

anyways, carry on… im going to go re-up on my popcorn

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]willden wrote:
Omg x claimed he’s a dentist, let’s see a copy of his license. And Stu said he’s 40, I don’t believe that shit I wanna see a copy of his birth certificate to back up that claim.[/quote]

X is not a dentist

there is no need to be upset… I was just merely stating facts. there is no need to behave like you are behaving[/quote]

It is posts like these that I don’t get. It is also why sometimes I think that race may be involved because it makes little sense for it to be this hard to believe someone who looks like me does what I do and actually has an educated background in much of the information we discuss here.[/quote]

nailed it x, I think you’re stupid because you’re black.

aren’t you an orthodontic surgeon? I feel like I remember you saying that.

sorry that you’re black btw, that must be really tough[/quote]

It wasn’t about you making that mistake alone but the very fact that I have gotten MUCH crap over my profession over the years.

If that doesn’t describe you, then apologies.
[/quote]

I guess that would be my mistake then… could have sworn you said you were an ortho surgeon

anyways, carry on… im going to go re-up on my popcorn[/quote]

I do oral surgery. I am a DDS who has worked as a personal trainer. I personally think that gives some insight others may not have of the human body and bodybuilding.

I am learning that this makes me “less advanced”.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
There was some good discussion happening in here but not anymore.
I wonder what changed???[/quote]

THIS, is perhaps the sole reason why PX receives the attitude he does.

PX- I’m not going to butt heads back and forth with you. There are people on this site who are friendly, humble, and knowledgeable as can be verified via objective means (PL meets, BBing contests, Degrees and Certifications in Nutrition, Kinesiology and fields specific to what gets discussed, not 'Well, Biology is Biology") and they actually create a wonderful collective source of information, support, and a friendly atmosphere.

Even your basic attitude when someone asks you a question, and you retort with some irritated crap about how you’re posted so much over the years that you’re not going to jump through hoops now, brings the place down.

Seriously bro, get over yourself, you’re a big guy, but you’re kind of a pompous ass. One thing I learned when I worked in TV, was that no one cares how good you are if no one wants to work with you on their team.

You continually post the same hunched over MM poses, occasionally with bad lighting, or photoshopped edges (yes, we all notice) but then get annoyed if anyone requests shots from all angles (quarter turns), whining about how you’re not a bodybuilder.

Every post I make that sets you off, reflects my opinions. Sure many people seem to jump on them in agreement, but just as you tell people to ignore you, you can easily ignore me. Of course I’m not going to apologize for the fact that my accomplishments are indeed verifiable, and as I always do my best to act humble and be helpful, people seem to listen and respect me even if they don’t agree (which I’m perfectly fine with).

Keep yapping though. For a thread on Natural achievement, I thought that being a competitor as well as a WNBF/INBF contest judge might allow me to provide some good insight. I’ll just leave it to you though. You’ve read muscle magazines for a long time, and also train at the same gym as a few NPC competitors. It holds the same water. I’m out, enjoy the thread, it’s all about you now anyway (again).

I wonder how many more quality posters will leave by the year’s end.

S

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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
There are people on this site who are friendly, humble, and knowledgeable as can be verified via objective means (PL meets, BBing contests, Degrees and Certifications in Nutrition, Kinesiology and fields specific to what gets discussed, not 'Well, Biology is Biology")[/quote]

LOL at not thinking this is berating.

I know more than just “biology”…but when I say I am a doctor, all of you complain.

That medical knowledge makes me an authority n how the human body works…not just biology.

Now that you know this, why avoid giving me credit for that?

We study nutrition in school also. I have also worked as a personal trainer.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]willden wrote:
Omg x claimed he’s a dentist, let’s see a copy of his license. And Stu said he’s 40, I don’t believe that shit I wanna see a copy of his birth certificate to back up that claim.[/quote]

X is not a dentist

there is no need to be upset… I was just merely stating facts. there is no need to behave like you are behaving[/quote]

It is posts like these that I don’t get. It is also why sometimes I think that race may be involved because it makes little sense for it to be this hard to believe someone who looks like me does what I do and actually has an educated background in much of the information we discuss here.[/quote]

nailed it x, I think you’re stupid because you’re black.

aren’t you an orthodontic surgeon? I feel like I remember you saying that.

sorry that you’re black btw, that must be really tough[/quote]

It wasn’t about you making that mistake alone but the very fact that I have gotten MUCH crap over my profession over the years.

If that doesn’t describe you, then apologies.
[/quote]

I guess that would be my mistake then… could have sworn you said you were an ortho surgeon

anyways, carry on… im going to go re-up on my popcorn[/quote]

I do oral surgery. I am a DDS who has worked as a personal trainer. I personally think that gives some insight others may not have of the human body and bodybuilding.

I am learning that this makes me “less advanced”.[/quote]
You never answered my question about this in the chiropractor thread.
I feel as though you skipped over it (three times to be precise) for some reason.
I don’t know what that could be.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]willden wrote:
Omg x claimed he’s a dentist, let’s see a copy of his license. And Stu said he’s 40, I don’t believe that shit I wanna see a copy of his birth certificate to back up that claim.[/quote]

X is not a dentist

there is no need to be upset… I was just merely stating facts. there is no need to behave like you are behaving[/quote]

It is posts like these that I don’t get. It is also why sometimes I think that race may be involved because it makes little sense for it to be this hard to believe someone who looks like me does what I do and actually has an educated background in much of the information we discuss here.[/quote]

nailed it x, I think you’re stupid because you’re black.

aren’t you an orthodontic surgeon? I feel like I remember you saying that.

sorry that you’re black btw, that must be really tough[/quote]

It wasn’t about you making that mistake alone but the very fact that I have gotten MUCH crap over my profession over the years.

If that doesn’t describe you, then apologies.
[/quote]

I guess that would be my mistake then… could have sworn you said you were an ortho surgeon

anyways, carry on… im going to go re-up on my popcorn[/quote]

I do oral surgery. I am a DDS who has worked as a personal trainer. I personally think that gives some insight others may not have of the human body and bodybuilding.

I am learning that this makes me “less advanced”.[/quote]
Less advanced than Stu and Zraw? Abso - fucking - lutely. In the field of bodybuilding I would definitely be all ears to both those guys because they have done the full course so to speak and you have not. Don’t get all pissy because of it