So, I get that BCAAs don’t offer the full amino acid profile compared to the hydrolyzed casein. How about if one used EAAs together with cyclic dextrin and sodium?
EAA’s would be better. There are a few other useful ingredients in Plazma as well, but if you don’t care about those, you could save a little cash.
Honestly though, I considered a similar thing at one time. Just buying a bunch of raw powders in bulk and mixing them myself to replicate plazma. But even with buying in bulk, I couldn’t save enough money (not really any) to justify doing this. The big discount Biotest offers is very helpful.
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HBCD is not cheap by any means (4 times the price of dextrose per lbs)
You can buy them and mix on your own but the issue with doing so is the source and quality of these ingredients…
lol, with these intra workouts I mainly “see” a difference when body fat is low. But I know its still working even if Im higher in BF and dont see a pump
Well, it’s been a few months. Care to make an update?
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I noticed zero decrease in performance and like being able to eat 500+ additional calories in real food. Never mind $$. No plans to change back.
So I decided I was gonna give some biotest products a try. I got plazma, mag-10 and some metabolic drive. I also have some BCAAs that have glutamine and 10g of waxy maize. I wanna try one scoop of plazma before/during, mag-10 post, and a large meal about an hour after that. Should I take a serving of plazma before and sip on the bcaas during that work out, or just drink half the plazma before and half during?
Best to follow the label instructions. If you’re having one scoop of Plazma with your workout, drink half of it 15-20 minutes before training (I sip mine on the way to the gym) then the other half during training. You do not need BCAA during training if you’re using Plazma. BCAA would be beneficial other times of the day though, like upon waking and between meals.
This is a good protocol and schedule.
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Thanks for the help bro, I’ve finally got my nutrition dialed in and am actually getting stronger while still cutting bf. Can’t wait to see what good food, biotest and running 5/3/1 for the first time will do to my strength and physique. Was thinking I might actually start a training log on here
You definitely should, I’m glad I did! Sometimes it is a chore, but it has been a great place for me to ask for advice or for people to stop in and give their feedback when they feel like it. Being open to advice/constructive criticism can really improve your training/nutrition.
Well I guess I’ll give it a shot. Have you known anybody to run the 5/2 diet with 531? I’m doing a slow body recomp and have lost 6 lbs this month while still getting stronger in all my lifts while eating in a slight caloric deficit on the regular days. I think on point peri workout has helped tremendously. Gonna start with:
Lb of lean beef
Half a dozen eggs
Quarter gallon of milk
Two scoops of metabolic drive
One scoop of plazma/ mag 10
Fruits/veggies/oats around workout
Will adjust up or down depending on results
I think you’re in a really good spot and are heading in a good direction with this plan. I have personally done the 5/2 diet on 5/3/1 and really enjoyed it. Make sure to follow the protocol and don’t have your 2 low days back to back or on a training day.
I also played around a bit with when to make my low days surrounding my training and felt the low day was not best suited for the day after deadlifts, when my body was craving recovery. I could get away with it the day before deadlifts. I usually structured them around my pressing days the best I could. Sometimes it was just what was easiest with my social schedule as well, but I think the 5/2 diet is a great way to lose fat down to a certain point and is sustainable because of its simplicity. I tend to fall in and out of different diets because I don’t make enough time to prepare the food, weigh the food, time when I eat the food, etc. With this plan, it makes it much more difficult to screw up.
I can’t comment on Biotest supps since they don’t ship them to me, but beef, eggs, milk, fruit/veggies/oats @ workout…I feel there are some gains in your future! Start a log so I can follow the success story!
Thanks for the support man. I really wanted to focus on my OHP so I was planning on going
Mon: Push press
Tues: Squat
Wed: off/fast
Thurs: bench
Fri: deadlift
Sat:off
Sun off/fast
I was thinking that Saturday off day I could keep the rest of my diet the same just cut the plazma and mag-10 to get a little more calorie burning. But if I feel like I need better recovery from deadlifts on Friday I’ll up the food
No problem! Ya and it really comes down to your primary focus. Is it bringing up your lifts or losing fat? It is great if you can kill two birds with one stone, but you should prioritize one over the other to ensure at least one of them happens. I’m guilty of trying to do too many things at once and just end up maintaining everything.
I do like the setup you’ve outlined and think that it should work great for you. Give it a good trial run for 3-4 weeks before messing with it too much, you definitely aren’t doing anything that is going to give you negative results. You should be ok with the deadlifting on Friday because you’re giving yourself the full 2 days off which is good.
This is likely going to be VERY similar to what I do come January 1st when I plan to cut down on BF%, so I’m anxious to hear how it works for you!
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Priorities-wise it goes
- Fat loss
- Push press
3: Big traps
4: Squats
I’m just trying to tinker around to see if I can find a sweet spot in my calories and macros that lets me lose weight at a slow enough pace that I can still get stronger. So far about 2500 kcals a day/ 50% protein, 30% fat and 20%carbs has been a good starting point so far. Jm just trying to go from 20% to 12% so I don’t think fat loss should make getting stronger too much of an issue
What’re your stats lookin like? For me:
6’3’’ 245lbs 20%bf
Push Press:205
Deadlift: 425
Squat: 345
Bench: 265
Personal preference:
I drink 3/4 before, add a little water, drink the rest, but always finish the Plazma around the 3/4 of my work out.
I found pre, way more effective then during, hence, drinking more before.
That is for one portion.
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Yep, looks like you have it under control!
I’m currently sitting around:
5’8", 210lbs ~18%BF
Push Press: 225
Deadlift: 565
Squat: 475
Bench: 340
this might be a dumb question, but how do you upload an iPhone video here? I went in to get an idea of my true 1RMs and hit 315x2x3 then 335 for a single. I just wanna get a form check on em cuz Im terrible at assessing my own form on video
Can I get a form check on this 315x3 and 335 single?