What is the True Religion?

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1Ti 2:5 KJV)

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, (2Co 5:19)

Basic logic. He wouldn’t leave it to another. He would do it Himself.
[/quote]I am as usual with brother Chen. If there’s a God at all there’s nothing stoopidder than thinking YOU are in position to understand Him as you please. Either HE tells US or we’ll never know. Bless His glorious name He HAS revealed Himself. In His creation first. EVERYwhere and in EVERYthing, but most especially in US, bearing His image as mini finite replicas of Himself. (Romans 1:18-25) The particulars of His being, nature and will for His creation, He has been most unthinkably gracious in revealing to us through the written Word recorded through chosen vessels throughout ancient history. Of course a Disney movie is more believable to the heart yet dead in sin in father Adam. It is foolishness indeed and is absolutely supposed to be. (1st Corinthians 2:14)

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[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Do you really think the Creator of the Universe cares what religion you are?
[/quote]

If he created it, I would suppose so.[/quote]

Or not.

You could also say, if he wanted us to worship him and only him, he’d make it obvious to all humans. Not a very specific slice of the population.[/quote]It IS obvious to all humans. That’s what my epistemology thread is all about Raj.
[/quote]

Really?? Everybody believes in Christ now?[/quote]Read that thread if you are actually interested. EVERYBODY knows the God of the bible is “there” and that they are His creatures. Owned and operated by Him. OR He is a liar, which is NOT possible.

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[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1Ti 2:5 KJV)

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, (2Co 5:19)

Basic logic. He wouldn’t leave it to another. He would do it Himself.
[/quote]

This, I believe with an expanded view on the name ‘Jesus Christ’. ‘Jesus’ was a man. ‘Christ’ means messiah, annointed, enlightened. I believe the One God has sent others, and continues to live and act throughout mankind, His Creation. In addition to Jesus, God has acted through Buddha, Mohammed, John Smith, etc. I see them as enlightened (Christly) brothers in the One God, One Spirit Soup that ALL of mankind is part of.

Religious arguements are mostly about semantics. Different vernacular for different people. Again, ASK that the Will of God concerning religion be done in your life, and relax. If He cares, He’ll put you where He wants you. [/quote]
Looks like Jesus doesn’t agree with you:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (Joh 14:6)

No semantics here.
[/quote]

I agree with Jesus perfectly, in the Christian vernacular.

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[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
One Spirit Soup that ALL of mankind is part of.
[/quote]

Seems some are part of a poisonous soup:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (Joh 8:44 KJV)
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You didn’t quote me fully. I said ONE GOD-One Spirit Soup.
I believe in an ever-present, all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving God.
There is no poison in His kingdom.

Man-made kingdoms? Well, that’s another matter.

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[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (Joh 8:44 KJV)
[/quote]

Jesus said that to people who wanted to kill him.
Is there anyone on this board that wants to kill Jesus?
Please speak up and identify yourselves!!
If not, then I think you might be hallucinating there, kemo sabe.
Time to put that sword down.

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[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1Ti 2:5 KJV)

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, (2Co 5:19)

Basic logic. He wouldn’t leave it to another. He would do it Himself.
[/quote]

This, I believe with an expanded view on the name ‘Jesus Christ’. ‘Jesus’ was a man. ‘Christ’ means messiah, annointed, enlightened. I believe the One God has sent others, and continues to live and act throughout mankind, His Creation. In addition to Jesus, God has acted through Buddha, Mohammed, John Smith, etc. I see them as enlightened (Christly) brothers in the One God, One Spirit Soup that ALL of mankind is part of.

Religious arguements are mostly about semantics. Different vernacular for different people. Again, ASK that the Will of God concerning religion be done in your life, and relax. If He cares, He’ll put you where He wants you. [/quote]
Looks like Jesus doesn’t agree with you:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (Joh 14:6)

No semantics here.
[/quote]

I agree with Jesus perfectly, in the Christian vernacular.
[/quote]
If He knew He was the Christ, which He did, as well as his disciples, then you don’t agree with Him or them.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Do you really think the Creator of the Universe cares what religion you are?
[/quote]

If he created it, I would suppose so.[/quote]

Or not.

You could also say, if he wanted us to worship him and only him, he’d make it obvious to all humans. Not a very specific slice of the population.[/quote]It IS obvious to all humans. That’s what my epistemology thread is all about Raj.
[/quote]

Really?? Everybody believes in Christ now?[/quote]Read that thread if you are actually interested. EVERYBODY knows the God of the bible is “there” and that they are His creatures. Owned and operated by Him. OR He is a liar, which is NOT possible.
[/quote]

See Trib this is where we part ways, your Calvanist belief even has you declaring other forms of Christianity unworthy.

We haven’t even touched Budhist or Hindu beliefs (but why bother right?)

And I don’t need to post in your thread, I’m surprised you responded to me here. You made it very clear in the Hijack thread that talking to me wasn’t on your list of things to do.

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[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (Joh 8:44 KJV)
[/quote]

Jesus said that to people who wanted to kill him.
Is there anyone on this board that wants to kill Jesus?
Please speak up and identify yourselves!!
If not, then I think you might be hallucinating there, kemo sabe.
Time to put that sword down. [/quote]
You are correct about the immediate context, however, this type of person is not limited to just these. Notice in the verse below, Paul indicates all those not born again are part of the above club:

Eph 2:1-3 And you hath he quickened (made alive), who were dead in trespasses and sins; (2) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: (3) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

The sword is to protect me from Pat’s inquisition. I don’t really have it out all the time, pointing it at people when I talk, it’s a still shot you know.

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[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
John Smith [/quote]

They guy from Pocahontas?

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
John Smith [/quote]

They guy from Pocahontas? [/quote]

Nah…I meant Joseph Smith Jr.

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[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1Ti 2:5 KJV)

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, (2Co 5:19)

Basic logic. He wouldn’t leave it to another. He would do it Himself.
[/quote]

This, I believe with an expanded view on the name ‘Jesus Christ’. ‘Jesus’ was a man. ‘Christ’ means messiah, annointed, enlightened. I believe the One God has sent others, and continues to live and act throughout mankind, His Creation. In addition to Jesus, God has acted through Buddha, Mohammed, John Smith, etc. I see them as enlightened (Christly) brothers in the One God, One Spirit Soup that ALL of mankind is part of.

Religious arguements are mostly about semantics. Different vernacular for different people. Again, ASK that the Will of God concerning religion be done in your life, and relax. If He cares, He’ll put you where He wants you. [/quote]
Looks like Jesus doesn’t agree with you:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (Joh 14:6)

No semantics here.
[/quote]

I agree with Jesus perfectly, in the Christian vernacular.
[/quote]
If He knew He was the Christ, which He did, as well as his disciples, then you don’t agree with Him or them.[/quote]

I already told you I believe in Jesus Christ, the Annointed, the Messiah, the Way-Shower.
I believe Christ redeemed THE WORLD AND ALL MANKIND from sin and bondage. I believe that literally. That includes EVERYONE IN THE WORLD…all variations of christians, jews, atheists, buddhists, hindus, muslims. They may not know it or accept it or even care. They may call it something else by another name. They may have a different history or story that reveals God’s fullest expression in heaven and earth (‘Christ’ to us). The Father’s house has many rooms. ALL are one in Christ. One God - One Spirit.

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[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:
The sword is to protect me from Pat’s inquisition. I don’t really have it out all the time, pointing it at people when I talk, it’s a still shot you know. [/quote]

Very flattering.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You have the internet. Research, make a decision.[/quote]

  1. Christianity 2.1 billion
  2. Islam 1.3 billion
  3. Secular/Irreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 1.1 billion
  4. Hinduism 900 million
  5. Chinese traditional religion 394 million
  6. Buddhism 376 million (see also buddhism by country)
  7. Primal indigenous 300 million
  8. African traditional and diasporic 100 million
  9. Sikhism 23 million
  10. Juche 19 million
  11. Spiritism 15 million
  12. Judaism 14 million
  13. Bah�¡'�­ Faith 7 million
  14. Jainism 4.2 million
  15. Shinto 4 million
  16. Cao Dai 4 million
  17. Zoroastrianism 2.6 million
  18. Tenrikyo 2 million
  19. Neopaganism 1 million
  20. Unitarian Universalism 800,000
  21. Rastafari movement 600,000

Get cracking OP.[/quote]

Raj is just pissed because his always gets left off the list.

:slight_smile:

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Religious differences= Devil’s trick. IT’S A TRAP!!!

No good parent would abandon their child just because they didn’t believe in them fully or even MOSTLY. I find it hard to believe any truly benevolent creator would effectively do the same.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You have the internet. Research, make a decision.[/quote]

  1. Christianity 2.1 billion
  2. Islam 1.3 billion
  3. Secular/Irreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 1.1 billion
  4. Hinduism 900 million
  5. Chinese traditional religion 394 million
  6. Buddhism 376 million (see also buddhism by country)
  7. Primal indigenous 300 million
  8. African traditional and diasporic 100 million
  9. Sikhism 23 million
  10. Juche 19 million
  11. Spiritism 15 million
  12. Judaism 14 million
  13. Bah�?�¡'�?�­ Faith 7 million
  14. Jainism 4.2 million
  15. Shinto 4 million
  16. Cao Dai 4 million
  17. Zoroastrianism 2.6 million
  18. Tenrikyo 2 million
  19. Neopaganism 1 million
  20. Unitarian Universalism 800,000
  21. Rastafari movement 600,000

Get cracking OP.[/quote]

Raj is just pissed because his always gets left off the list.

:slight_smile:
[/quote]

Haha

look a little closer

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

I believe the One God has sent others, and continues to live and act throughout mankind, His Creation. In addition to Jesus, God has acted through Buddha, Mohammed, John Smith, etc.
[/quote]

Rasputin? L. Ron Hubbard? Rael? Is there anyone He hasn’t sent?[/quote]

We are all part of the One-God-One-Spirit-Soup. Some are spiritual superstars (Jesus) and some are science fiction writers (L. Ron Hubbard). [/quote]

Sounds like the soup’s heavy on the Kool Aid. Count me out. And just between you and me, I always thought Mo was a few sheep short in the top paddock if you know what I mean.[/quote]

Let me ask you this: Is God omnipresent? yes or no?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

Re-read the last 4 words of what you quoted.

What is the most widely printed book in…

  1. Saudi Arabia
  2. India
  3. Pakistan
  4. Israel

[/quote]

That’s what missionaries are for.

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[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

I believe the One God has sent others, and continues to live and act throughout mankind, His Creation. In addition to Jesus, God has acted through Buddha, Mohammed, John Smith, etc.
[/quote]

Rasputin? L. Ron Hubbard? Rael? Is there anyone He hasn’t sent?[/quote]

We are all part of the One-God-One-Spirit-Soup. Some are spiritual superstars (Jesus) and some are science fiction writers (L. Ron Hubbard). [/quote]

Sounds like the soup’s heavy on the Kool Aid. Count me out. And just between you and me, I always thought Mo was a few sheep short in the top paddock if you know what I mean.[/quote]

Let me ask you this: Is God omnipresent? yes or no?
[/quote]

Yes

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Of course if an all powerful being wrote a book it would follow there would only be one book and be dominant everywhere in the world.

[/quote]

What would you say is the most widely printed and best selling book of all time?[/quote]

Re-read the last 4 words of what you quoted.

What is the most widely printed book in…

  1. Saudi Arabia
  2. India
  3. Pakistan
  4. Israel

[/quote]

Besides India, it would have been the Bible, except for the Mohammedans invading Christian lands and forcing conversion, and before the recent purging of Christians, it would have been close in recent history. There are huge populations of Coptics/Chaldeans in U.S. major cities because of what happened in the middle east lately.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:

I believe the One God has sent others, and continues to live and act throughout mankind, His Creation. In addition to Jesus, God has acted through Buddha, Mohammed, John Smith, etc.
[/quote]

Rasputin? L. Ron Hubbard? Rael? Is there anyone He hasn’t sent?[/quote]

We are all part of the One-God-One-Spirit-Soup. Some are spiritual superstars (Jesus) and some are science fiction writers (L. Ron Hubbard). [/quote]

Sounds like the soup’s heavy on the Kool Aid. Count me out. And just between you and me, I always thought Mo was a few sheep short in the top paddock if you know what I mean.[/quote]

Let me ask you this: Is God omnipresent? yes or no?
[/quote]

Yes[/quote]

OK. Then you ain’t gettin’ outta God’s soup. Where ya gonna go? The soup is EVERYWHERE!