Sean Harris from Long Island, 215 at weigh-ins!
Anyone here know what 220 in shape looks like, taking into account size ad height? 
Agree with your post but Thibz is 5ā7 - 5ā8" while X is about 5ā10 - 11.
That said Thibz is in every way more developed than X and denser overall (no surprise) but the three extra inches of height should imo allow X to step on stage anywhere in the late 180s to early 190s if he does it properly, which likely wonāt happen the first few times he diets down anyway.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Re-calculated and with 4 lbs of muscle lost while dropping to stage ready condition I would estimate 205 lbs stage ready body weight. 220 lbs would put X around 10% body fat % which would be respectable conditioning IMO. [/quote]
While I wonāt venture any guesses because we all know how X thinks I have a personal vendetta, simply for comparison sake, consider our beloved Christian Thibs. A gifted athlete no doubt, Christian stands about 5ā10, and competed onstage at a very hard and dense 190-195 lbs if I recall correctly.
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Most people grossly underestimate how much weight they have to lose to get under 10% bf. I maintain 8% to 10% year round at about 200lbs, but when I really want to get shredded Iām in the low 180ās.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Intro from Casey Buttās article on natural limits. Seemed appropriate.
DISCLAIMER: The world of popular bodybuilding has always been and probably always will be full of exaggerations, deceptions and, sometimes, outright lies. Unfortunately, those exaggerations often shape peopleās perceptions of bodybuildersā legitimate measurements. The purpose of the information presented in this article is to provide accurate references and tools so people can form appropriate training expectations based on reality. That said, even many adults donāt have the maturity and intelligence to accept and deal with knowledge of their own limitations. If youāre comfortable with your current perception of your bodybuilding potential (depending on how realistic your training expectations are) and think that any threat to that perception might negatively influence your self-image or motivation to train thenĆ?ĆĀ do not read this articleDISCLAIMER: The world of popular bodybuilding has always been and probably always will be full of exaggerations, deceptions and, sometimes, outright lies. Unfortunately, those exaggerations often shape peopleās perceptions of bodybuildersā legitimate measurements. The purpose of the information presented in this article is to provide accurate references and tools so people can form appropriate training expectations based on reality. That said, even many adults donāt have the maturity and intelligence to accept and deal with knowledge of their own limitations. If youāre comfortable with your current perception of your bodybuilding potential (depending on how realistic your training expectations are) and think that any threat to that perception might negatively influence your self-image or motivation to train thenĆ?ĆĀ do not read this article
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Thanks for this.
For the record, Iām 5ā8 and Iāve stood next to Christian on several occasions. Heās not shorter than I am, more likely an inch or two taller.
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So X was likely wearing stiletto heels in the colorado video then when he stood next to Christian.
Most short men overestimate their height especially on the internet ā¦ even more than the disgusting permabulkers who underestimate their body fat levels.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
For the record, Iām 5ā8 and Iāve stood next to Christian on several occasions. Heās not shorter than I am, more likely an inch or two taller.
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Rusty Jeffers aka Carl Hardwick. I think he competes at about 230 or so and is 5ā9".
This guy is an amazing poser. I have been a huge fan of his for a long time.
[quote]TRU76 wrote:
Most people grossly underestimate how much weight they have to lose to get under 10% bf. I maintain 8% to 10% year round at about 200lbs, but when I really want to get shredded Iām in the low 180ās.[/quote]
Right. From your pic you look very solid at 200.
I also think some people just canāt get over a bodyweight number. Meaning that once they start to get bellow a certain bodyweight they start to get mental about it.
At this point they start to get a mentality that preserves their self image. So a person could weigh 250 lbs with a good amount of muscle and believe they have put on a certain amount of pounds in muscle. But, in reality if they were to lose the amount of body fat to show actual amount of muscle added over the years it would be less than what they thought. But, in the big picture a very respectable amount of muscle.
When a person is in this type of mentality it is very hard to change their opinion on some issues. At this point it really becomes, like the gif posted, beating a dead horse.
Some people might have a great knowledge base and achieved a lot in building up their body, but because they are in a perpetual state of self preservation they start to lose credibility.
[quote]Depression Boy wrote:
So X was likely wearing stiletto heels in the colorado video then when he stood next to Christian.
Most short men overestimate their height especially on the internet ā¦ even more than the disgusting permabulkers who underestimate their body fat levels.
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X can do whatever he likes. Iām 5ā8 and Iām ok with it
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Thats the spirit
For the record, X is a lot closer to 6 feet than he is to 5ā10, having seen him in person at the 24h. Christian even assumed he was 6 feet in Colorado, and thats why he assumed X would need to drop 40 pounds. This is one reason why X isnt as filled out as you would expect from someone who is 5ā10 and 270.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]Depression Boy wrote:
So X was likely wearing stiletto heels in the colorado video then when he stood next to Christian.
Most short men overestimate their height especially on the internet ā¦ even more than the disgusting permabulkers who underestimate their body fat levels.
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X can do whatever he likes. Iām 5ā8 and Iām ok with it
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[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Intro from Casey Buttās article on natural limits. Seemed appropriate.
DISCLAIMER: The world of popular bodybuilding has always been and probably always will be full of exaggerations, deceptions and, sometimes, outright lies. Unfortunately, those exaggerations often shape peopleās perceptions of bodybuildersā legitimate measurements. The purpose of the information presented in this article is to provide accurate references and tools so people can form appropriate training expectations based on reality. That said, even many adults donāt have the maturity and intelligence to accept and deal with knowledge of their own limitations. If youāre comfortable with your current perception of your bodybuilding potential (depending on how realistic your training expectations are) and think that any threat to that perception might negatively influence your self-image or motivation to train thenĆ??Ć?ĆĀ do not read this articleDISCLAIMER: The world of popular bodybuilding has always been and probably always will be full of exaggerations, deceptions and, sometimes, outright lies. Unfortunately, those exaggerations often shape peopleās perceptions of bodybuildersā legitimate measurements. The purpose of the information presented in this article is to provide accurate references and tools so people can form appropriate training expectations based on reality. That said, even many adults donāt have the maturity and intelligence to accept and deal with knowledge of their own limitations. If youāre comfortable with your current perception of your bodybuilding potential (depending on how realistic your training expectations are) and think that any threat to that perception might negatively influence your self-image or motivation to train thenĆ??Ć?ĆĀ do not read this article
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Thanks for this.
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No worries. Not sure why it doubled up. If anyone has never read that article, I highly recommend they do so. Itās fascinating, and incredibly well researched.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
If I have it right, JL Holdsworth is about 275-280. [/quote]
Closer to 300-310 in that picture.
I side spotted him on a 600lb raw bench press (no Hammer Strength) around the time that picture was taken.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
If I have it right, JL Holdsworth is about 275-280. [/quote]
Closer to 300-310 in that picture.
I side spotted him on a 600lb raw bench press (no Hammer Strength) around the time that picture was taken.[/quote]
Thanks for that. I was going by what he was saying in an interview that I thought was around the same time. How tall is he?
He holds his weight well, why I thought he was lighter.
cool article
220-230 ābeach leanā is still my goal. I like bluecollarās method of 3 x height in inches
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
If I have it right, JL Holdsworth is about 275-280. [/quote]
Closer to 300-310 in that picture.
I side spotted him on a 600lb raw bench press (no Hammer Strength) around the time that picture was taken.[/quote]
Thanks for that. I was going by what he was saying in an interview that I thought was around the same time. How tall is he?
He holds his weight well, why I thought he was lighter. [/quote]
Heās about 6ā.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
cool article
220-230 ābeach leanā is still my goal. I like bluecollarās method of 3 x height in inches[/quote]
At those numbers with those dimensions predicted from that calculator youād be a fucking tank. Need to get out the tape measure and see whatās up.
Interesting thread. It would be nice to divide it and separate the useful information from the personal attacks and entertainment.
That said, if Prof X started at his stated weight and bodyfat, he has gained more than 35 lbs of muscle. Now, I donāt care technically how said āmuscleā is calculated, but from the photos, there is no way he gained only 35 pounds.
Whether his choice to carry _____% of bodyfat, I think everyone can agree that he totally transformed his physique by adding muscle.
And I agree that if he wanted to lean down, he would look so impressive @ 225-230 no one would talk about him. As someone pointed out, this is more art than science. After all, itās based on HOW WE LOOK (which is totally subjective BTW).
But, he gets to pursue his own goals, and getting down that lean is not one of them.
All these projections are meaningless. The only way to get a real idea of what someoneās physique truly looks like or how much they weigh in ācontest shapeā is to be a legit 8-10 % bodyfat. Anyone who has ever dieted down to single digits from a higher bodyfat can tell you this. Permabulkers are deluded enough to think they are a few months of dieting away from walking around at 200+ lbs. and ripped. They donāt live in reality.
