so is athletes heart a bad thing? does it matter if it is achieved via cardio or liftin? steady state or slow?
reorging the query:
is athletes heart somethin to be avoided in those whos family has a history of heart disease?
does the manner at which it is attained consequential? AKA heavy liftin vs playin hockey vs jogging?
[quote]Eric Buratty wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Eric Buratty wrote:
CT,
I don’t know if this has been asked before, but what is the macronutrient and calorie profile per serving of Anaconda and MAG-10?
Since I currently use Surge Workout Fuel, I was looking for something I could either add or substitute to get a somewhat similar effect. But I guess that’s a lofty goal without knowing someone on the inside.
Also, do you think it would be alright to mix 5g of Creatine Monohydrate with my 2 scoops of Surge Workout Fuel 10-20 minutes before training?
I’m not about to reveal the composition of a product not yet being sold… some companies might try to steal the formula.
Thibs,
I understand. What about answering that last question about the creatine and SWF? ^^[1]
CT answered that already in his first peri workout thread. Following that protocol here is what mine looks like:
45 min - 2 scoops SWF
30 min - liquid GPC
15 min - 2 scoops SR + 5g creatine
during workout - 20g of CH
1 hr post - 12g CH + 5g creatine
Not sure how much it would change if you are not drinking the recovery or CH, but he has stated a few times before that its best taken pre and post workout.
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[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
rehabman28 wrote:
What was your viral infection? Was it Coxsackie B? What did they recommend to get the titers down?
I have no idea. To be honest they didn’t diagnose it. I got sick a few days after getting back from Aruba. After a week I had problems breathing. Within 10 days I couldn’t sleep because I felt like I was drowning and I was retaining a ton of water. After 14 days my wife had to drive me to the hospital as I couldn’t breathe at all.
They put me on lasix, a broad spectrum antibiotic or something and some other medicine that I never cared to ask about. Then I had a ton of tests done on me. They kept me there for a week.
Turns out I suffered congestive heart failure from a cardiomyopathia (from what I can remember, I’m not a MD). The docs couldn’t find with certainty the source of the problem. They did more tests and three different cardiologists studied the case.
They couldn’t make a clear diagnostic as to what it was. They theorized that it was either from a birth defect (the eco was showing something that could be interpreted as a cardiac malformation) or a viral infection.
I was on medication to prevent heart failure for a year. Went back for follow-up testing 2 months ago and there were no signs of birth defect, so this is why I am assuming that it was a viral infection. [/quote]
This actually sounds like Takotsubo Syndrome/ Stress Cardiomyopathy. Don’t know what you may have had to trigger it.
I’ve seen a few cases of this where I work. Heart function usually returns to normal (as yours apparently did).
[quote]Ryan71 wrote:
This actually sounds like Takotsubo Syndrome/ Stress Cardiomyopathy. Don’t know what you may have had to trigger it.
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So, are you showering and changing clothes after every intra-day workout? Or are you just going around in sweaty bodybuilder outfits at all times? 
[quote]AHA wrote:
So, are you showering and changing clothes after every intra-day workout? Or are you just going around in sweaty bodybuilder outfits at all times?
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Oh, I picked up my old pair of clown pants and string tank top 
Nah, I have a home gym so it’s fairly easy to shower often.
Yup and probably few testosterone t-shirts…by the way like your under armour t-shirt thibs…protect the house!!
[quote]Charles3264 wrote:
Yup and probably few testosterone t-shirts…by the way like your under armour t-shirt thibs…protect the house!![/quote]
I was lucky to find this one at a ‘Winners’! Sadly I’m looking for it as we speak…
Suprisingly…they are few good stuff you can find at Winners!!! I’m a bit off topic…Training question…lol
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Charles3264 wrote:
Yup and probably few testosterone t-shirts…by the way like your under armour t-shirt thibs…protect the house!!
I was lucky to find this one at a ‘Winners’! Sadly I’m looking for it as we speak… [/quote]
I hear shopping at Winner’s is very anabolic…
COOL MY ROUTINE IS KINDA LIKE YOURS!!
And I second the coming to alberta thing that was on the first page…
Also, I’m a dork and posting this makes me blush so I’m going away now…
Thibs, no Vitamin C supplementation?
[quote]tolismann wrote:
Thibs, no Vitamin C supplementation?
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Sometimes, after grueling workouts. But if you are not deficient, too much of it can actually have PRO-oxydant effects.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
forbes wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
BobParr wrote:
While it’s scary to think a virus can do that, it’s good news that your heart problem was not from a birth defect. Obviously, you can kill a virus - but a birth defect is something you’re stuck with for life.
I know you’ve previously given some credit to Curcumin for helping your heart. I wonder if it doesn’t have some anti-viral properties in addition to helping the immune system. Some other foods/herbs are known to have anti-viral properties, like garlic for one.
Who knows. I don’t think this would have anything to do about it since I started taking Curcumin a few months after the incident. It does, however stop and can even reverse cardiac hypertrophy (athlete’s heart) which is a cause of many heart problems.
Isn’t cardiac hypertrophy from cardio a good thing, compared to cardiac hypertrophy from high blodd pressure? I learned in one of my classes that exercise causes the heart to grow outwards, meaning the left ventricle stays the same size, but the muscle on the outside grows outwards, so it can produce more forceful contractions and eject more blood per beat. Compare that to hypertrophy caused from high blood pressure. The muscles on the inside of the L.V grow inwards, making the L.V smaller and unable to hold as much blood.
Correct. But I have a history of HBP from both sides of my familly and do suffer from HBP myself.[/quote]
Coach, I was recently diagnosed with HBP also. How are you treating yours? Not sure if medication is the right choice or if there are alternatives. Thx
[quote]varnish wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
forbes wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
BobParr wrote:
While it’s scary to think a virus can do that, it’s good news that your heart problem was not from a birth defect. Obviously, you can kill a virus - but a birth defect is something you’re stuck with for life.
I know you’ve previously given some credit to Curcumin for helping your heart. I wonder if it doesn’t have some anti-viral properties in addition to helping the immune system. Some other foods/herbs are known to have anti-viral properties, like garlic for one.
Who knows. I don’t think this would have anything to do about it since I started taking Curcumin a few months after the incident. It does, however stop and can even reverse cardiac hypertrophy (athlete’s heart) which is a cause of many heart problems.
Isn’t cardiac hypertrophy from cardio a good thing, compared to cardiac hypertrophy from high blodd pressure? I learned in one of my classes that exercise causes the heart to grow outwards, meaning the left ventricle stays the same size, but the muscle on the outside grows outwards, so it can produce more forceful contractions and eject more blood per beat. Compare that to hypertrophy caused from high blood pressure. The muscles on the inside of the L.V grow inwards, making the L.V smaller and unable to hold as much blood.
Correct. But I have a history of HBP from both sides of my familly and do suffer from HBP myself.
Coach, I was recently diagnosed with HBP also. How are you treating yours? Not sure if medication is the right choice or if there are alternatives. Thx [/quote]
I’m really not a medical expert. In many cases medication is necessary. Obviously a good diet (lowish in carbs and not too much sodium) helps and some supplements like resveratrol also help. But they are not s substitute for proper medical treatments when necessary.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Ryan71 wrote:
This actually sounds like Takotsubo Syndrome/ Stress Cardiomyopathy. Don’t know what you may have had to trigger it.
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LOL. Just wait till you two add kids to the mix!
Thibs you are very dedicated. Your only flaw is that you like hockey, a true women sport. =(
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Thibs you are very dedicated. Your only flaw is that you like hockey, a true women sport. =( [/quote]
Yeah, but I never played it. Played football, rugby and Olympic lifting.
CT,
Suppose you could only train once per day, how would you modify your current regimen?
Hockey is not a woman sport baseball and soccer are.