In response to Paulypaul, coenzyme Q10 makes a big difference for people on HBP medicine. You mite try going on that if you decide to use meds. That being said, being a bigger guy will affect blood pressure, so a different means other than medicine may be dropping weight (who wants to do that?).
I;m not trying to push meds, far from it (i’m a chiropractic student) but look at all your options and decide what is best.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
[quote]Darkane wrote:
CT,
What is the main goal of this approach? Size?
Just curious as I recall you said something along the lines of when you hit the 235+ area you weren’t comfortable with various ailments.
Are you gonna try to maybe get there again as fast as possible just to see how effective this new style is?
Cheers[/quote]
I had problems, I suspect, because I gained weight too fast. A lot of it probably was water retention which caused blood pressure problems and sleep apnea.
I went to my cardiologist and my heart’s function is now normal (it was dangerously low due to a cardiomyopathia which turned out to be viral not a malformation like they had suspected) and my blood pressure is under control (actually I had some bouts of HYPOtension last week) so I think that I can try to put on size again. I dropped down to a low of 205lbs (in the experimental arms video) and am now up to 223lbs. I would like to gradually work my way up to 240 again, but be smarter about it.
But I also want to gain strength. I have been running after a 500lbs bench press for what seems to be forever (hit 435 earlier this year) and that is my ultimate goal, but 485 by this summer would satisfy me, along with a 650lbs full squat. I’d also like to hit those in a raw, tested powerlifting competition.[/quote]
Shit didn’t realize that you we’re natty. What are your vital stats height ect…
Hello Coach,
I have decided to employ a PUSH-PULL-LEGS split, similar to what you were doing in this tread, however carrying out 2 workouts per day.
My current strategie has me doing 3 big moves in the AM 6-8x3(whatever it takes to reach MFP whilst ramping) and 5x5 in the PM using variations of the AM lifts(i.e. DB presses etc).
Look okay?
Thanks,
GJ
[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hello Coach,
I have decided to employ a PUSH-PULL-LEGS split, similar to what you were doing in this tread, however carrying out 2 workouts per day.
My current strategie has me doing 3 big moves in the AM 6-8x3(whatever it takes to reach MFP whilst ramping) and 5x5 in the PM using variations of the AM lifts(i.e. DB presses etc).
Look okay?
Thanks,
GJ[/quote]
Looks fine. I would only suggest autoregulating the PM workout (ramping the weight and/or adjusting the weight or volume depending on the result of the AM workout).
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hello Coach,
I have decided to employ a PUSH-PULL-LEGS split, similar to what you were doing in this tread, however carrying out 2 workouts per day.
My current strategie has me doing 3 big moves in the AM 6-8x3(whatever it takes to reach MFP whilst ramping) and 5x5 in the PM using variations of the AM lifts(i.e. DB presses etc).
Look okay?
Thanks,
GJ[/quote]
Looks fine. I would only suggest autoregulating the PM workout (ramping the weight and/or adjusting the weight or volume depending on the result of the AM workout).[/quote]
Thanks coach,
Some feedback, which won’t surprise you and your’e probably tired of hearing:
I have to say, I USUALLY simply bust my ass(Poliquin style) in the AM workouts and it leaves me fairly wrecked! Upon employing the perfect rep, force spectrum ramping in the AM instead, I leave feeling like I have worked, but more awake and generally better. I usually can’t do more than 2 2 a days in a row, but am still amped on my 3rd day. Your methods are proving VERY beneficial.
thanks again,
GJ
[quote]mch60360 wrote:
In response to Paulypaul, coenzyme Q10 makes a big difference for people on HBP medicine. You mite try going on that if you decide to use meds. That being said, being a bigger guy will affect blood pressure, so a different means other than medicine may be dropping weight (who wants to do that?).
I;m not trying to push meds, far from it (i’m a chiropractic student) but look at all your options and decide what is best. [/quote]
Thanks for the tips, I will give CoQ-10 a try. I think I am going to take the plunge and start on Lisinopril tomorrow. I have been promising docs and myself I would get it down naturally for almost 2 years now, but I haven’t been consistent as I should have been with BP supps and cardio, so I guess the meds are probably necessary at this point. It is only 5 mgs, so it is not even that much. I just hope nothing else is affected, workout, sex drive, etc… If Christian takes what he does and looks like he does, should be alright.
The weirdest thing though is some of the symptoms I get. Heart palpitations, heart pain, headaches, bad gas, lack of sleep. I have had a lot of tests done over the last couple years, so unless they missed something, I don’t think there is anything immediately fatal. The strangest thing though is I can go for nights without a good night’s sleep and then I will be strong in the gym and get great pumps, although this is sometimes accompanied by lightheadedness and shortness of breath. Could be my imagination too, but I just feel a bit more pumped while feeling these other symptoms. If the BP was truly problematic, would I be that strong? I don’t have a clue at this point.
Hey CT. Since I am already using CH before my workouts. what protein would you suggest for meal replacement purposes. Quick breakfast, meals in between classes etc. I would use ch but it is far too expensive and bitter tasting for me to blend with milk and a banana for a quick meal. Would you suggest Metabolic Drive or Grow! Whey and would there be a big difference in taste, quality, etc. ? Thanks for the help.
[quote]Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
Hey CT. Since I am already using CH before my workouts. what protein would you suggest for meal replacement purposes. Quick breakfast, meals in between classes etc. I would use ch but it is far too expensive and bitter tasting for me to blend with milk and a banana for a quick meal. Would you suggest Metabolic Drive or Grow! Whey and would there be a big difference in taste, quality, etc. ? Thanks for the help. [/quote]
If possible I would actually mix both (one scoop of each). If you can only buy one I would pick …
Coach Thibs,
Fist, thanks so much for much for taking the time to answer so many questions. You’ve always been prompt and polite.
In your current lifting program, do you ever take deloading weeks? If you do, or for someone who does, do you continue your Anaconda protocol? I’ve always wondered if one should maintain the full-blown peri-workout nutrition even with light workouts during a deloading week. It seems like the insulin spiking and amino pulsing would be overkill and possibly a waste of money during such a period.
Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Trey
[quote]tcarlock wrote:
Coach Thibs,
Fist, thanks so much for much for taking the time to answer so many questions. You’ve always been prompt and polite.
In your current lifting program, do you ever take deloading weeks? If you do, or for someone who does, do you continue your Anaconda protocol? I’ve always wondered if one should maintain the full-blown peri-workout nutrition even with light workouts during a deloading week. It seems like the insulin spiking and amino pulsing would be overkill and possibly a waste of money during such a period.
Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Trey
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I do deload from time to time, but it rarely something planned. I basically push as hard as I can and train as much as my schedule will allow. When I start to feel worn down and that my motivation goes down I’ll cut back on training, normally doing 3 weekly workouts revolving around stuff I like doing or have been wanting to try for some time. Basically have fun in the gym for a week.
I DO keep up the full protocol. Actually on the days off I take a lot of ANACONDA and MAG-10 (obviously since they send me the stuff to experiment with it, I can afford to do that) something like 4 servings of ANACONDA and 6 servings of MAG-10 used throughout the day. This really helps me recover so that after that deloading week I’m ready to hit it hard in the gym (I often break PRs at that time).
Thibs, whats up man?
Just a quick question about my own protocol
I live in Australia so I cant get the supps either
Well I’ve got Leucine, whey hydrosolate, gatorade and No Xplode for like citrulline malate and beta alanine, because I believe it contains some of the ingredients that are in Anaconda without the kick arse proteins!
But yeah, any ideas how I could load a protocol?
You can’t maynzie. You can still have good pre-workout nutrition, but you can’t use the protocol without buying the Biotest supps. Stupid question.
Coach
I am following the push,pull,legs split and ramping one main lift followed by 2-3 assistance lifts per workout. Each workout is preceded by three scoops of ANACONDA and two of MAG-10. My strength gains have been awesome however, I need to lose a lot more body fat, so I am adding a pm metabolic workout using kettlebell circuits. I plan on using Surge Workout Fuel for the second workout. How or should I add ANACONDA to this? Also, I read your articles on destroying fat and am concerned about the CNS stress of my planned workout. Maybe a metabolic circuit every other day?
Thank You
Thinking about trying this training system, as I now have nearly unlimited time to train, plenty of funds for the supplements, and I seem to have built up a very high work capacity. Wondering how it could be modified to accomodate my weaknesses however, my triceps take over any pressing movement, therefore my chest and shoulders are underdeveloped and my triceps (especially my long head somehow) are overdeveloped. Substitute some isolation movements perhaps? Try pre-fatigue?
Thank you very much for the perfect rep article and philosophy by the way. Between that and the anaconda protocol, I’ve recently gained 25 pounds while apparently getting leaner.
anything new going on with your training, and 500lbs benches yet? also you never mentioned what, if any goals you had for a deadlift, considering if you squat in a meet, you usually have to deadlift too, unless you take a pass.
Hey coach I’m curious how did this program work for you? I just finished a 6 week adaptation of it where I did push/pull/legs/off/repeat and I added 30 lbs to my bench, 25 lbs to my squat, 45 lbs to my deadlift and 25 lbs to my military press. My leg press and pull ups also improved dramatically. I only trained once per day as follows:
push: bench (8)x3 ramping, 5x5; standing press (8)x3 ramping, 5x5
pull: deadlift (8)x3 ramping, then rack pulls (8)x3 (I’m weakest by far on 2nd part of pull) or max rep set or keep ramping for sets of 1-2; pull-ups 5x5 or 5x10
legs: squat (8)x3 ramping, then 5x5, or keep ramping sets of 1-2, or max reps set, then leg press 5x5 or 5x10
Of course I attempted to auto-regulate, do perfect reps and follow your other advice. So sometimes I would get to the gym ramp up on the first lift and feel drained, then leave. Which is great because back in the day I would feel guilty for “quitting” and mostly likely overtrain.
I really enjoyed this “program”. The gains were impressive because before this program I did Part I of Beast Building and had gained even more strength on all the above lifts than I did on this program. I actually did 6 weeks of Part I,BODYBUILDER because I kept making such great strength gains, then switched to the above program when progress stalled. Now that progress is stalling again I started taking creatine. I’m not sure where to go from here. I just ordered the ANACONDA Protocol so I’m looking forward to trying it out. I think I’ll do the I,BODYBUILDER program, and with my new strength gains the size gains from I,BODYBUILDER should be impressive.
Anyway just letting you know this program worked really well for me. Thanks a lot man!
Coach,
i love the layout of this program. straightforward. i have been thinking about using an almost identical exercise selection for a while and its good to see an expert actually implement it with a frequency, volume, intensity and diet breakdown.
Each workout lasts around 30 minutes and consists of doing 8 sets of 3 reps with the maximum weight I can accelerate (around 85%) then drop down by 20-40lbs (depending on the lift) and perform 5 sets of 5 reps.
I ramp up the weight relatively rapidly until I reach the max force weight, because I’m neurally efficient I don’t need that many ramp up sets
MY QUESTION IS HOW WOULD YOU TWEAK THE ABOVE BULLETS IF YOUR GOAL WAS PURELY TO GAIN MUSCLE?
Thank you for your time.
DAY 1
1.1 Bench press
1.2 Military press
1.3 Close-grip bench or dips
DAY 2
1.1 pull-ups
1.2 barbell row
1.3 upright row
DAY 3
1.1 back squat
1.2 leg press
1.3 front squat
Can i do
Day 1 on Monday Day 2 on Thuesday Day 3 on Thursday Day 1 on Friday Day 2 on Monday…
U said that lat and biceps need higher reps with more volume.
How would a rep scheme for pull-ups and curls look like?
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