What does 'STRONG' Mean to YOU?

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I think you can only judge how strong, strong is. Now there is a guy training like a madman getting PR’s. That is strength. I know a girl that run’s 50k and eats a diet I would not want. But she does it. That is strength. I see guys lift atlas stones like bags of feathers. I think that is strong. I think you need to look at your perspective.

A small guy with tiny arm length training his ass of for the bench press is not impressive even if the numbers are high.

A taller longer limed guy doing the same lift is far more impressive.

That is just my small opinion.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
BW = bodyweight

lifts are for one rep maxes. no gear

standing military press = 1xBW
bench press = 1.5xBW
squat = 2xBW
deadlift = 2.5xBW

there’s a good start for you[/quote]

Lofty goals, and I’m not one to stimmy progress and aiming high, but I will point out that a 2x/1.5x/2.5x (BW for Squat/Bench/DL) ratio will qualify you for ELITE in every weight class in most PL federations I have seen. This means you are among the best of the best of all your powerlifting peers (which makes you infinitely far ahead of the average person). You could go to 90% of PL competitions and take home the trophy.

Personally, I would consider someone strong a bit before that (like maybe Class I if we are speaking purely in terms of PL milestones).

EDIT: My math was bad. This will only qualify you for elite in the 275 and higher weight classes. The total is WAY off for lighter lifters, and gets more skewed the lighter your BW is. Therefore you can conclude that different standards apply as you increase weight, and its not a linear progression.
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Yeah, myself, at 202 right now, have a 505x2 squat, 635 DL, and 345 bench, barely would make an elite total if I competed at 198, and all those lifts are substantially better than the prerequisites HM posted. As people get heavier and heavier, to be “strong” requires less of a proportionate bw strength, and more sheer strength, regardless of how much the big fucker weighs.

But when someone starts lifting, and your inner child instantly gets scared watching them, that is a strong person.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

Yeah, myself, at 202 right now, have a 505x2 squat, 635 DL, and 345 bench, barely would make an elite total if I competed at 198, and all those lifts are substantially better than the prerequisites HM posted. As people get heavier and heavier, to be “strong” requires less of a proportionate bw strength, and more sheer strength, regardless of how much the big fucker weighs.

But when someone starts lifting, and your inner child instantly gets scared watching them, that is a strong person. [/quote]

Damn dude. Yeah, I would consider you to be pretty fucking strong. Nice lifts! I can’t remember from your post history: have you ever competed? If not, you should go do a meet and just get the elite status, setting a couple records for that federation in the process, then fade off into the mist never to be heard from again. haha

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[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
Strong is being able to pistol squat yourself off the shitter.[/quote]

I do that every morning.

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When I don’t have to go onto a forum and ask them what they think strong is to fill the insecurity I have about my own strength from the answers of fellow lifters.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

Yeah, myself, at 202 right now, have a 505x2 squat, 635 DL, and 345 bench, barely would make an elite total if I competed at 198, and all those lifts are substantially better than the prerequisites HM posted. As people get heavier and heavier, to be “strong” requires less of a proportionate bw strength, and more sheer strength, regardless of how much the big fucker weighs.

But when someone starts lifting, and your inner child instantly gets scared watching them, that is a strong person. [/quote]

Damn dude. Yeah, I would consider you to be pretty fucking strong. Nice lifts! I can’t remember from your post history: have you ever competed? If not, you should go do a meet and just get the elite status, setting a couple records for that federation in the process, then fade off into the mist never to be heard from again. haha

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Plan to compete soon, want to add a little more of a buffer to my lifts first to guarantee and elite total.

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
If you weight lighter than me and lift more than me on a certain lift then I’ll say you’re stronger.

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Well, usually, if someone lifts more than you on a certain weight no matter what their weight, they are stronger.

Edit: *exercise

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[quote]ukrainian wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
If you weight lighter than me and lift more than me on a certain lift then I’ll say you’re stronger.

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Well, usually, if someone lifts more than you on a certain weight no matter what their weight, they are stronger.[/quote]

damn you and your logic

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Awwww, Nate112 seems to have his panties in a bunch. Your hostility is so charming. Where can you possibly pull out of your ass that I posted the topic based on insecurity about my own strength? Projecting much? I hate to deflate your already fragile and over-sized ego (we can all probably guess what that’s compensating for), but I’m not insecure about it, or much of anything else, for that matter. I’m not as strong as a lot of the big guys on this site, but I’m pretty happy with the progress I’ve made and continue to make, especially considering I was a distance runner for most of my life. I have my own ideas about what Strong is, I just knew it would be an interesting topic to generate different ideas and opinions for something that doesn’t have a concrete definition in most people’s eyes. But again, since this type of thought process is probably a bit over your ahead, I guess I can understand why the only thing you can do is attack someone else. If you don’t want to play nice, kiddo, go find another sandbox to play in.

HolyMacaroni, I think more along those lines as well. I would definitely consider someone Strong that can hit those levels all around.

XanderBuilt, o.k, so the pound for pound who’s stronger…I like that way of looking at it, too. But, I would consider someone stronger than me if they can lift more than me, even if by a little, and even if they were significantly bigger than me.

Alffi, I get your point, but then your starting to blur the lines of power production vs. raw strength. I agree, though, the person that can actually transfer that strength better is far more impressive, no matter what their size.

dirtbag, I agree that someone with longer limbs than someone else on the same lift, even lifting the same amount is more impressive, simply because of the biomechanical differences. But, in the end, isn’t weight just weight…it’s absolute. Either you can lift it, or you can’t, regardless of height, weight, limb length, or genetics.

ADvanceTS, thanks for that contribution, that one definitely made me laugh.

polo77j, also enjoyed that contribution.

Montez, I agree, I would consider that Strong as well.

Hungry4More, I would also agree and would classify you as one Strong dude. Those are impressive lifts. Nice work, man, and good luck competing. If you keep hitting at those levels, you’ll do awesome in actual competition.

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Hungry4More, the problem with the being scared thing is, that big guys in the gym don’t scare me, and them lifting heavy weights doesn’t scare me. Actually most of the really big guys I’ve known are pretty down to earth and generally nice guys. Even somewhat reserved and softspoken a lot of times. Their big enough and strong enough that they don’t care about proving themselves to others or intimidating people. Their size and sheer effort in and out of the gym speaks for itself. Now, if that guy was a psycopath or sociopath with a weapon, then I would definitely be scared…but then again, it’s not their size I would be afraid of.

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If you bench 315, squat in the low 400’s and deadlift in the mid to upper 400’s you are probably one of the strongest guys at any local gym.

I would say that makes you strong to the general public. If you want to be strong to people on this site then HM says how it should be.

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[quote]Nate112 wrote:
When I don’t have to go onto a forum and ask them what they think strong is to fill the insecurity I have about my own strength from the answers of fellow lifters.[/quote]

Wow.
Hardcore…