[Quote]Standard Donkey says:
im with b3 i think you should take off your pants
edit: and what does 40" vertical mean? [Quote/]
It means that when hes standing still, and he jumps straight up, he goes up by 40".
[quote]1morerep wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I’m sorry but i cannot help but say how friggin stupid that sounds. UPPER PECS??? The upper pecs are the fucking pectorilis major. And so are the “mid” pecs. There’s no distinction.
no distinction? of course the pectoralis is one muscle but you realize you can emphasize developing particular areas of it aren’t you? you’ve heard of incline/decline movements haven’t you?? ahh youth[/quote]
oh everyone shut the fuck up. The pectorilis major is one muscle period. It’s not as if the incline bench completely isolates the “upper pecs” as the “middle pecs” and even the “lower pecs” are used a bit as well. By the way, i cannot believe how fucking moronic you fucking sound. Do you know what it means to develop a muscle??? Obviously not. Heres a lesson. There is no such thing as sculpting, shaping, or toning. You can either make a muscle bigger by stimulating it, or make it smaller by sitting on your ass. MUSCULAR DEVELOPMENT is a rather ambiguous term, because muscle development is a combination of making a muscle bigger while stripping bodyfat so the muscle shows up well. It’s not as if an incline bench develops the upper pecs more than a regular bench, both work the same muscle. If someone were to just skiP the incline and do flat dumbell presses but also rocked a bodyfat of 4%, I GUARENTEE YOU HIS MUSCLES WOULD LOOK VERY MUCH DEVELOPED. KUDOS
OH AND TO THAT SMARTASS GETSWOLE, I WAS JUST MAKING A POINT BECAUSE I SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE AT THE GYM WHO SPEND ALL THEIR TIME SHRUGGING INSTEAD OF DOING THE BASIC GOOD LIFTS. AND WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHETHER THE STRENGTH OF TRAPS ARE CORREALTED WITH THE STRENGTH OF A DEADLIFT. DO I CARE THAT THE STRENGTH OF A LEG EXTENSION IS CORREALTED TO THE STRENGTH OF A SQUAT? YOU’RE SPLITTING HAIRS.
[quote]no distinction? of course the pectoralis is one muscle but you realize you can emphasize developing particular areas of it aren’t you? you’ve heard of incline/decline movements haven’t you?? ahh youth
oh everyone shut the fuck up. The pectorilis major is one muscle period. It’s not as if the incline bench completely isolates the “upper pecs” as the “middle pecs” and even the “lower pecs” are used a bit as well. By the way, i cannot believe how fucking moronic you fucking sound. Do you know what it means to develop a muscle??? Obviously not. [/quote]
oh you’re right…i apparently have no idea what it means to develop a muscle. thanks for showing me the light! wow so all the books i’ve ever read by all the greatest bodybuilders were all wrong?? wow! i’m going to write letters to arnold, franco an all the other mr. o’s telling them that all those incline/decline movements they’ve been doing for decades have been a complete waste of time!
[quote]1morerep wrote:
no distinction? of course the pectoralis is one muscle but you realize you can emphasize developing particular areas of it aren’t you? you’ve heard of incline/decline movements haven’t you?? ahh youth
oh everyone shut the fuck up. The pectorilis major is one muscle period. It’s not as if the incline bench completely isolates the “upper pecs” as the “middle pecs” and even the “lower pecs” are used a bit as well. By the way, i cannot believe how fucking moronic you fucking sound. Do you know what it means to develop a muscle??? Obviously not.
oh you’re right…i apparently have no idea what it means to develop a muscle. thanks for showing me the light! wow so all the books i’ve ever read by all the greatest bodybuilders were all wrong?? wow! i’m going to write letters to arnold, franco an all the other mr. o’s telling them that all those incline/decline movements they’ve been doing for decades have been a complete waste of time! [/quote]
yeah, I mean y would you read? I don’t think reading helps to much. When there traps are big it looks stoopid.
You should get more of your info in the beginners area.
(so I got to, there, a webtraction…how else to make fun of youth???)
even anatomy books separate the pectoralis by clavicular and sternal head. Hence not technically two different muscles, but definitely two different points of origin.
also
TRAPS DURTRAPS OU HAVE NO LEGS ARGG YOU ARE TINY NO TRAPS PECS PECS WHERES YOUR BACK YOU LIGHTBULB
LIGHTBULB
[quote]andrewc1989 wrote:
OH AND TO THAT SMARTASS GETSWOLE, I WAS JUST MAKING A POINT BECAUSE I SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE AT THE GYM WHO SPEND ALL THEIR TIME SHRUGGING INSTEAD OF DOING THE BASIC GOOD LIFTS. AND WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHETHER THE STRENGTH OF TRAPS ARE CORREALTED WITH THE STRENGTH OF A DEADLIFT. DO I CARE THAT THE STRENGTH OF A LEG EXTENSION IS CORREALTED TO THE STRENGTH OF A SQUAT? YOU’RE SPLITTING HAIRS.[/quote]
Obviously you missed the point fuckshit. First I’m gonna start with; learn to turn your caps lock of Mr. internet tough guy. Second, the point was, the stronger your traps are, the stronger your deadlift can get. What are you acting like such a psychotic fucktard, and why do you care what everyone else in the gym is doing. Learn to keep to yourself and take care of yours.
You look like a jackass trying to preach to more experienced guys about development of muscles etc. You are taking everything everybody says out of context and making yourself look like an ass. Get a grip on your “I’m a hardass cuz I lift weights” attitude and act like a man. Learn to control yourself, you come off as childish and socially inept.
…And we have people saying that Onemorep knows nothing of building muscle.
What is next? people saying that the professor is small?
Once again, 1morerep’s sarcasm tickled my funny bone…LOL! Anyway, I say Lats and Chest. But, that’s just my opinion of course…isn’t that why we post pics in this forum? Hmmm?
[quote]andrewc1989 wrote:
BodyBldgBabe wrote:
catone wrote:
All2ez wrote:
definatly traps, but i gave you a 3 even without a leg shot wich is generous, you seem yo have that look like you just dont train legs…
but you look good never the less
I think his traps are in line with the rest of his (visible) muscles. He just has a very long neck in my opinion.
That was going to be my next statement after I looked at his picture again. Very long neck. Looks like you need to work on developing your upper pecs and your traps to even that out.
The great thing about weight lifting is you can totally reshape your entire body. Have a friend who has a neck even longer than yours. After 2 years of training very hard he built up hit shoulders, upper pecs, and traps and looks very symmetrical now.
You obviously arent fat and could walk on a beach without your shirt.
B-3
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I’m sorry but i cannot help but say how friggin stupid that sounds. UPPER PECS??? The upper pecs are the fucking pectorilis major. And so are the “mid” pecs. There’s no distinction.[/quote]
How about you learn to spell “pectorilis” before you make ANY statement on what someone else says. And you CAN work chest to form in different ways. So yes, it’s all the same thing, but yes you can also train the different areas of it. So quit being an ANAL ASSHOLE and get over yourself.
I think everything looks great!
[quote]andrewc1989 wrote:
OH AND TO THAT SMARTASS GETSWOLE, I WAS JUST MAKING A POINT BECAUSE I SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE AT THE GYM WHO SPEND ALL THEIR TIME SHRUGGING INSTEAD OF DOING THE BASIC GOOD LIFTS. AND WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHETHER THE STRENGTH OF TRAPS ARE CORREALTED WITH THE STRENGTH OF A DEADLIFT. DO I CARE THAT THE STRENGTH OF A LEG EXTENSION IS CORREALTED TO THE STRENGTH OF A SQUAT? YOU’RE SPLITTING HAIRS.[/quote]
lol its flametime!!! you, sir, need to grow up and take it easy! and why shout?! its not if i can hear you anyway…
to the OP, good size and definition dude
crap every one of these threads i’ve looked at turns into people crying at each other
but OP should add some more pics… there’s not really enough to judge anything
Let’s get this thread back on track and help dneal25 instead of bickering at each other.
dneal25 - nice base, you have good definition. What exactly are your goals? Whatever they may be, keep eating clean, lift heavy and hard, and you’ll reach your goals. As others have said, your chest needs some work, so be sure to hit it hard.
Nice start, keep it up!
[quote]ahzaz wrote:
[Quote]Standard Donkey says:
im with b3 i think you should take off your pants
edit: and what does 40" vertical mean? [Quote/]
It means that when hes standing still, and he jumps straight up, he goes up by 40".[/quote]
No, it means that the last time the OP measured his vert he did it extremely inaccurately.
[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
ahzaz wrote:
Standard Donkey says:
im with b3 i think you should take off your pants
edit: and what does 40" vertical mean?
It means that when hes standing still, and he jumps straight up, he goes up by 40".
No, it means that the last time the OP measured his vert he did it extremely inaccurately.
[/quote]
LOL
[quote]venusismyplanet wrote:
Once again, 1morerep’s sarcasm tickled my funny bone…LOL! Anyway, I say Lats and Chest. But, that’s just my opinion of course…isn’t that why we post pics in this forum? Hmmm?[/quote]
thanks for the comment. i agree with you too. haha thanks again.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Let’s get this thread back on track and help dneal25 instead of bickering at each other.
dneal25 - nice base, you have good definition. What exactly are your goals? Whatever they may be, keep eating clean, lift heavy and hard, and you’ll reach your goals. As others have said, your chest needs some work, so be sure to hit it hard.
Nice start, keep it up![/quote]
thanks, i agree. yea thigns got sidetracked a little, but overall i got some good responses. and that ll i can ask for. basically i just want to gain more muscle and not fat. and compete in a powerlifting meet here and there, for my own enjoyment.
[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
ahzaz wrote:
[Quote]Standard Donkey says:
im with b3 i think you should take off your pants
edit: and what does 40" vertical mean? [Quote/]
It means that when hes standing still, and he jumps straight up, he goes up by 40".
No, it means that the last time the OP measured his vert he did it extremely inaccurately.
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thanks for all the hate son. but i can assure you that i had a 40’’ vert in HS. i was 5’8.5’’ as a senior. and even now not playing ball in 2 years im still around 36’‘. do the math (if i cant reach 7’3’’ standing and jump and easily grab the rim. That is 36"+) i rest my case!
dneal25 deserves a great deal of credit for getting as lean as he has without looking like a complete stick. When most people cut for a show as naturals their first time, they end up looking like they’ve starved in the desert for months. In fact, I think dneal25 would probably have gotten higher ratings on this site if he wasn’t as lean and had the same amount of muscle (Admit it).
dneal25, your midsection looks strong. You look like you’re developing in proportion. You pretty much just need to work on everything because nothing looks to be lagging.
My advice to you is to up your calories and allow yourself to not be so lean that you’ve got christmas-tree back definition but not so fat that you feel worthless. You can still be lean enough to have a six pack and you should still eat healthy, but increase all your macro-nutrients and just concentrate on growing.
I’m jumping to the conclusion that if you’re this lean at that bodyweight, you might be the type of trainee who does 10 sets of abs and wants to look really ripped. Prioritize Squats, Rows, Benching, and Curls. I haven’t seen your legs but in comparison to your lower back and ab definition (which is great) your lats, shoulders, arms and chest are lagging (traps and mid-back are doing pretty good). Since your traps and mid-back are looking pretty jacked in comparison to your not-so-jacked lats, I’m assuming you probably do a lot of wide-grip vertical pulling (that, and that’s your avatar). Dumbbell Rows, T-Bar Rows, and Close-Grip Cable Rows will build up your lats. Your arms are also kinda small in comparison to your shoulders, so you could increase your direct arm work.
You’ve got a ways to go if you want to look like a freak, but you’ve made if far enough to where you deserve more advice than people just telling you that you need milk and squats.