[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Feed your kid raw milk, fresh-cut bacon, and plenty of meat and he will grow up to look like this.
6’4, 240 lb. 18 year old Kris Von Kiel from Pennsylvania who grew up on a farm, eating raw organic food.[/quote]
How long has Kris Von Kiel been lifting?
[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Feed your kid raw milk, fresh-cut bacon, and plenty of meat and he will grow up to look like this.
6’4, 240 lb. 18 year old Kris Von Kiel from Pennsylvania who grew up on a farm, eating raw organic food.
How long has Kris Von Kiel been lifting?
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several years I don’t think thats his name though, he is also juiced but thats beside the point-and not 18, he is in his 20’s- he is freaky strong also. There have been a lot of threads of him on bodybuilding.com Might be thinking of someone different though since two people looked the same.
[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Feed your kid raw milk, fresh-cut bacon, and plenty of meat and he will grow up to look like this.
6’4, 240 lb. 18 year old Kris Von Kiel from Pennsylvania who grew up on a farm, eating raw organic food.
How long has Kris Von Kiel been lifting?
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Just a couple years in that picture, I think. He plays baseball and wants to be in the pro’s. He has a younger brother who is already taller than he is. Father is a natural herbalist. German ancestry, btw.
Guess what? He could still be an asshole and hate his life.
Planning a child’s life 18 years in advance is probably not the way to raise a successful child. I don’t have any kids so I’m not going to pretend to be an expert of child raising. However, I will hazard a guess and say that you are going to raise a healthier, more well-adjusted kid if you focus more on teaching them the principles of how to live a good life than on optimizing their physique at the age of 5.
I’m still not sure if your post was a joke; if so, tremendous troll job.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
If you are 6’5, 250 lb. at age 20 and can’t count to ten…you are set for life.
Counting can be acquired at any age. A superb phenotype CAN’T. You get ONE chance, that is it.[/quote]
If you’re not being sarcastic then you are dumb as a fucking post.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
A 6’4, decent-looking male can procreate anywhere in the world with anyone he chooses.[/quote]
Err… really? Damn, apparently I didn’t know I had this power. I gotta start putting this to work!
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
m1sf1t wrote:
Your post makes me think of a couple things:
A) You are joking
B) You’re from another planet
C) You’re full of shit
D) You have no idea what you’re talking about, have no kids of your own, but decided to talk out of your ass
D) You’re 19 years old
E) You’re the dad of that bodybuilding freak kid (Forgot his name)
F) A combination of all of the above
Even though I agree that we need to teach good eating habits to our kids, watch what we serve to them and invest in their health, your suggestion are awfully weird, unfounded and downright silly.[/quote]
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
A bunch of crazy shit, such as:
If you are 6’5, 250 lb. at age 20 and can’t count to ten…you are set for life.
Counting can be acquired at any age. A superb phenotype CAN’T. You get ONE chance, that is it.[/quote]
Ok, you’ve answer my question, you ARE:
F)A combination of ALL of the above
Putting kids through a bunch of crazy expectations like that is what destroys most of them, putting them through all that pre-destined crap never benefits anyone except the egos of the loser parents that are trying to live through the kids and complete their broken dreams, not only that, but that stupid idea of creating the “superb phenotype” is the same bullshit that Hitler tried to embed into everyone’s minds back then.
Like I said, when you become a parent, your job #1 is to be a LEADER and a responsible provider, in my case, I take my lifestyle and my morals quite seriously so I try to pass that into my son, from the moment he was conceived, the only think I was preoccupied and praying for, was for him to be healthy, since then, that’s all it matters to me. I watch what he eats, his “deserts” are usually fresh fruit, the occasional cookie (oatmeal, of course), but you know what? If he goes to a birthday with his little buddies, and they have pizza and candy party treats, I let him have at it, WHY?? BECAUSE THAT"S WHAT BEING A KID IS ALL ABOUT!! As far as sports and stuff, I played football since I was a kid and all the way through college, nothing would make me happier that my son taking after me and becoming an NFL player one day, but you know what? It is just as fine with me if he decides to do something different, whatever it is, as long as he’s passionate about it and gives his 100% regardless of what it is, becoming a chess master, going to the moon, becoming a book worm or a mathematician, WHO CARES! As long as he is a good person, with a good sense of morals and responsibility, I will be the happiest dad in the world, not only that, but his biggest fan and critic.
I wonder what would happen, if by your accounts, you were to have an “average kid” or God forbid, one with some kind of limitations?
Now I’m not going to go through all your other crazy accounts like height being attributed to nutrition, and this is the last post I will do in regards to you comments, because I’m well aware how most of ignorant idiots stick to their crazy claims, at the end, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, so have at it in your pursuits of creating the next “super race”, shit like that is not worth my time…
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
A 6’4, decent-looking male can procreate anywhere in the world with anyone he chooses.
Err… really? Damn, apparently I didn’t know I had this power. I gotta start putting this to work![/quote]
Jeez, you didn’t know? As soon as I passed 6’3" girls threw themselves at me.
How old are you, Nominal Prospect? How did your parents raise you? It seems you are angry and bitter about it, and you feel it’s too late to correct things for yourself, so your solution is to have a son who will be the superhuman you never were.
While I believe that you should not push your kids into anything, I think that making them lift weights wouldnt be all that bad. I mean dont force them to compete in anything or throw “gear” at them to give them an edge, but about 33% of kids in this country are obese. Obviously P.E. teachers arent doing their jobs.(not referring to ALL teachers)I think that making them exercise young will have a positive effect on the rest of their life. Like an “Its how I was raised” type of thing. Like I said if he’s not into it really then just dont do any really intense training, just enough so they dont become a statistic!
It’s not the P.E. teachers jobs to instill good, active habits in kids, it’s THE PARENT’S to make sure their kids don’t spend any waking moment watching TV, playing video games and eating frozen dinners. but once again, you have to lead by example, and that means, turn the tv off, encourage playing/exercise time and not eating shit.
I remember I was watching tv one day and there was this show in which these two parent where “asking for help”, their two kids were morbidly obese and “they didn’t know what to do”… the two parents were just as fat and when they where told they needed to change their habits as well, they got offended!! When they asked the mom why she kept candy and a bunch of shit foods in the house, she said “because if I don’t give them that to eat, they get mad at me and they cry” WTF!!!
[quote]d10k65 wrote:
While I believe that you should not push your kids into anything, I think that making them lift weights wouldnt be all that bad. I mean dont force them to compete in anything or throw “gear” at them to give them an edge, but about 33% of kids in this country are obese. Obviously P.E. teachers arent doing their jobs.(not referring to ALL teachers)I think that making them exercise young will have a positive effect on the rest of their life. Like an “Its how I was raised” type of thing. Like I said if he’s not into it really then just dont do any really intense training, just enough so they dont become a statistic![/quote]
hah nominal though trolling does make one good point which is you should have good nutrition for your kids. Don’t go feeding them crap all the time that is bad.
Genetics are one of the biggest reasons for how you turn out, both my parents and grandparents were under 6ft yet I turned out nearly 6’8 its just luck of the draw. I ate fast food and shit most of life also so its not all diet.
[quote]shizen wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Feed your kid raw milk, fresh-cut bacon, and plenty of meat and he will grow up to look like this.
6’4, 240 lb. 18 year old Kris Von Kiel from Pennsylvania who grew up on a farm, eating raw organic food.
How long has Kris Von Kiel been lifting?
several years I don’t think thats his name though, he is also juiced but thats beside the point-and not 18, he is in his 20’s- he is freaky strong also. There have been a lot of threads of him on bodybuilding.com Might be thinking of someone different though since two people looked the same. [/quote]
yeah, he had a 710x5 deadlift video I beklieve, which was fake… And he benched 365 he said, and squated 495x5 which I have a problem believeing because he was born without ligaments with his knee’s and in his deadlift video his knee’s would bow in real bad on every fake rep.
To the OP.
Build them a fake weight set, just like a thin pvc pipe and soem foam plates spray painted black. Have them do some kinda GPP like sports or something they enjoy.
But the most important thing is, tell they they are and will be strong. Tell them they are special and can be much stronger than normal people. At such a young age they can literally be anything they want, if you want some powerhouse sons to lift with you then you should be leading them allong this path long before you have them actually lifting.
[quote]d10k65 wrote:
While I believe that you should not push your kids into anything, I think that making them lift weights wouldnt be all that bad. I mean dont force them to compete in anything or throw “gear” at them to give them an edge, but about 33% of kids in this country are obese. Obviously P.E. teachers arent doing their jobs.(not referring to ALL teachers)I think that making them exercise young will have a positive effect on the rest of their life. Like an “Its how I was raised” type of thing. Like I said if he’s not into it really then just dont do any really intense training, just enough so they dont become a statistic![/quote]
Il agree with this somewhat, if you make them do their chores… why not make them lift. Sooner or later they will learn to love it. And will have a better life because of it. They wont get bullied as kids, get more girls, be more secure in them self etc.
Hope no one takes this the wrong way…
MightyMaus
My daughter is 7 and my son is 5. When they see me working out they sometimes want to join in.
I think if you show them your interest and dedication to what ever sport/activity they will suprise you just how ofter they want join in with you.
Two examples. A couple of weeks ago when it became obvious that I wasn’t going to get to the gym, I started doing push-ups in the living room. A simple workout that consisted of doing 10 push-ups every minute. At first my son wanted to ride on my back but I patted the floor next to me and he drops down and started doing them with me. As he got into it, he was watching the timer closer than I was. Now granted, he didn’t last as long as I did but he busted his butt all on his own. When he stopped, he watched the timer and made sure I was starting the next set on time.
Years ago when I started bending nails, my daughter asked what I was doing and decided she wanted to bend nails also. I cut up a cut hanger and showed her how to wrap her “nails.” She wanted to bend nails whenever she saw me bending nails. Yes, I still have the first coat hanger “nail” she bent.
Don’t force it, invite them to join you, let them show an interest in what you are doing and guide them from there.
Fred
M1sf1t wrote…
I remember I was watching tv one day and there was this show in which these two parent where “asking for help”, their two kids were morbidly obese and “they didn’t know what to do”… the two parents were just as fat and when they where told they needed to change their habits as well, they got offended!! When they asked the mom why she kept candy and a bunch of shit foods in the house, she said “because if I don’t give them that to eat, they get mad at me and they cry” WTF!!!
You know up until last month I worked as a manager at a fast food restaurant. (trust me its HARD to watch your diet while working with all this grease, but what can a college kid do right?) Anyway I would take someones order and just KNOW that they were fat. I would be so damn sure of it we were all guessing how huge someone would be before they got up to the window. Sure enough their would be some BIG ass woman in the driver seat with all of her BIG ASS family in the vehicle with them.
The typical fast food wrappers from every chain on the dash and in the floor (you have an above view) and it just disgusted me to the point that I put in my notice and quit…really. I couldn’t STAND being a part of the destruction of the human race any longer.
…So I joined the Army and leave in 2 weeks…but thats different!
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
A 6’4, decent-looking male can procreate anywhere in the world with anyone he chooses.
Err… really? Damn, apparently I didn’t know I had this power. I gotta start putting this to work![/quote]
I’m about 6’3 and I’m just a tall dork. Damn, I hope I’m not done growing.
In my opinion, if you want to play football you should be lifting in 7th grade. I don’t have some scientific reasoning for doing that, I just know that for most places they get into the school system in 8th grade. It was easy to tell who had lifted weights before and who hadn’t in my 8th grade year. People will tell you that you don’t have to be great in 8th grade and that is somewhat true. However, basically everybody here who started in 9th grade had started in 8th grade. After that you are already on to Varsity.
I’ve thought a lot about stuff like this, and I’ve read how one can change up to 40% of one’s muscle fibers to FT. If your child is fairly athletic to begin with, and is properly trained and has a good diet, then to me that’s a pretty good start for an athlete. that’s something I would like to do with my children, when I have them. hopefully no time soon.
My daughters are both under 7 years old. They love to get on my back for pushups or do bodyweight squats with me (they call them ‘froggies’).
I have broomsticks for them and do O.H. squats with them. I use a little trick I learned from a Dan John video where he teaches the ‘Goblet Squat’. They love pretending to hold a goblet and squat-- and they do them in their princess dresses. Simple exercises like ‘fire hydrants’, leg lifts, and bodyweight exercises can be fun and good family time. They ‘curl’ and press water bottles with me 
Also, there is nothing like a good jungle gym at the playground. I swear my grip, forearms, and back have gotten stronger from pulling myself around with the kids at the playground
On another note, I took ‘Christian’ as addressing Christian Thibaudeau