Westside/PLing Training Thread

[quote]Power GnP wrote:
Ashy, volume means nothing if your missing reps during regular workout days. This can have a big effect on your CNS and eventually overload it to the point where you feel overtrained.

You’d be better off doing more reps with a lighter weight, lets say 365 is your 1rm, then 347 would be 95% and 330 90%. You performed one sucessful rep over 90%, when I bet you could of done 3x3 at 85-90% (310-330).

Just a thought.[/quote]

You’re right man, I need to really pick my lifts much better. I’ve had a lack of focus lately and just wanted to put numbers up and it hasn’t done me any good. Time to concentrate on whats needed…

Glad I could help man, leaving the ego at the door is one of the hardest things to do, even for seasoned lifters, its not bad to max out and peroidically miss a lift. But without structured training behind that lift you’ll never progress.

I look forward to seeing your workouts.

wiiwii

I would be glad to help you out. Tell me a little bit about your training history? How long have you been training? What have you been doing? What are you current maxes? How much do you weigh? What are your goals?

Mountainman2007

Im 25, been doing serious weight lifting for 1 and ½ years. Before that my last time working out heavy was when I was playing basketball from 14-17 years. I have a small problem and that is that I have the medical condition psoriathic artiritis, but I don’t let it stop me just try to get deload weeks in.

I have done about 8 weeks of rippetoes basic program, then I did waterburys total body workouts. Right now I’m doing a bodypart split with focus on the 3 lifts and some accesory lifts, working out 4 times a week. I have a log from the last few months

My current bp max is 75 kg 1RM, squat is 92.5 kg 3RM (don’t know 1RM) and 110 kg deadlift 1RM. My weight is 75 kg and height is 170 cm, so a small lifter :slight_smile:

My goals are to july first bench 85 kg, squat 110 kg and deadlift 130 kg. Don’t know if this is setting my goals to high but I don’t think so. Long term goal is bench 1.5 bodyweight and squat double bodyweight but that is a couple of years in the future.

Thanks for your help

2-13-08: ME Upper

Incline Bench:
45x10x2
95x8
135x8
165x5
185x3
190x3
195x2
185x2

DB Incline:
70x8x4

Chest Supported Row:
95x8x3
95x7

Vbar Pulldown:
145x6

BB Shrugs:
315x3x3

My neck still hurts from the accident on sunday so I couldn’t do much with those, quit early.

Curls (so cool…):
40x12
30x16

Felt much better today, other than the fucking whiplash from the crash. Incline went much better, I forced myself to not fail on singles! The DB presses afterwards were easy as hell too.

ME Upper

Bench
Some warm up
135x3
165x3
195x3
225x1
255x1 - This felt heavy, so I just went for a few more singles instead of a new PR
255x1
255x1

OH Tri extensions
110x5x8

BOR
175x5x8

Facepulls with 2 ropes
80x5x8

I feel a little overtrained right now, so I am going to cut back a little.

DONE!!

wiiwii

Overall for you goals I believe that your plan is very solid. I have been having great success doing two weeks of dynamic work on squat and bench then one week of RE work along with your max effort work. You could give that a try. I believe in deloading I also believe that after a 12 week training cycle that you should take a couple of weeks with out a bar on your back or in your hands at all. Keep us updated and feel free to ask any specific questions. I do not think that your goals are to high.

Try and build yourself some board, just nail together some 2’’ by 6’'s , I would def go with one two and three boards, I really like 4 and 5 board as well, very cheap, prob free if you can pick up some scrap lumber.

Sheiko#32- W1 D2- Monday- 2/13/08

Skills Evaluation

1 Hour 40 Minutes

1)Squats
(50%)190x3
(60%)225x3 x3
(70%)265 (belt) x2 x2
(80%)300x2
(90%)340x1
(95%)355x1

2)Bench Press (meet pause)
(50%)140x3
(60%)170x3 x3
(70%)195x2 x2
(80%)225 (hand offs) x2
(90%)250x1
(95%)265x1

3)Deadlift
(50%)255x3
(60%)305x3 x3
(70%)355 (belt on) x2 x2
(80%)410x2
(90%)460x1
(95%)485x1

Recovery: Contrast Showers- 30s Cold/90s Hot x4 (full body- ending on cold)

Squat- - YouTube
Elbows could probably be pushed forward a little more. Depth was not too much, but seemed definitely good enough to pass in the USAPL. Speed was quite good for 95% as well, and I don’t think the knees fell in much.

Bench Press- - YouTube
Ass came close to moving off the bench, but the arch, elbow tuck, pause, and speed were all pretty good.

Deadlift- - YouTube
Could possibly sink the hips and arch a little more to begin with, but overall, I’m pleased with the technique and speed of the lift.

Comments and critiques welcome and appreciated!

I’m going to be sore as hell tomorrow.

-Matt

Dynamic Effort Lower

Got in my foam squat pad from elite fts. It was brutal, fried my back, you have to focus on pausing on the box to keep from bouncing. I like it.

Dynamic warm up
foam roller
TKE s 220
lat abs 100
10 12510 12510

squat off box plus foam pad all reps paused
14010
230
3
320 10 sets 2
320*8 reps

Speed pulls
225 plus doubled green bands 10 singles

Glute hams
My fat ass65*4

Reverse Hypers 180 2 sets 8 reps

Land mines 45 2*10

Leg EXT 2*20

Calves seated
2 plates25
3 plates
25
4 plates*25

Sheiko MSIC Wk 4 Day 2 Prep
2008/2/13
Weight: 203lbs

Tried some snatch grip deadlifts today in an attempt to better my conventional deadlift form, they really force you to be tight in the upper back…man was it tough to get into proper position for those. Bench and deadlifts went great, no complaints.

Snatch Grip Deadlifts
165x5x3 sets
230x5
340x3x3 sets

Bench
165x5
200x3x2 sets
220x3x2 sets
250x2x2 sets

Reverse Band Deadlifts
165x8
360x3
415x3
470x3x2 sets
525x3x2 sets
580x2x2 sets

Close Grip Bench
145x15x4 sets

Standing GM’s
210x5x5 sets

Wide Grip Pull Ups
BWx5x5 sets

2008.02.13

Sheiko #37 Week 1 Day 2

Deadlift
275x5x1
330x5x2
385x4x2
410x3x4

Press
115x4x6

Dip
BWx10x3

Hanging Leg Raise
BWx12x3

Notes
I decided to switch to #37 from #30. #37 has 1112 reps of the three main lifts vs. 1296 for #30. The peaking program I did for the last four weeks had about 550. I think it would be wise to work back up to the volume in #30 instead of jumping in with my newly increased poundages.

This session had rack pulls scheduled after the dips, but I took them out to make up for overdoing it on Monday. Was very sore this morning but did some foam rolling prior to going to the gym and felt fine after the deadlift warm-up sets. The dips felt fine at first, but my shoulder felt like it was getting a bit fatigued and I didn’t want to push it. I was supposed to do lunges, but getting under the bar made my shoulder hurt, so I gave myself a pass after one set.

[quote]Matt McG wrote:
Sheiko#32- W1 D2- Monday- 2/13/08

Skills Evaluation

1 Hour 40 Minutes

1)Squats
(50%)190x3
(60%)225x3 x3
(70%)265 (belt) x2 x2
(80%)300x2
(90%)340x1
(95%)355x1

2)Bench Press (meet pause)
(50%)140x3
(60%)170x3 x3
(70%)195x2 x2
(80%)225 (hand offs) x2
(90%)250x1
(95%)265x1

3)Deadlift
(50%)255x3
(60%)305x3 x3
(70%)355 (belt on) x2 x2
(80%)410x2
(90%)460x1
(95%)485x1

Recovery: Contrast Showers- 30s Cold/90s Hot x4 (full body- ending on cold)

Squat- - YouTube
Elbows could probably be pushed forward a little more. Depth was not too much, but seemed definitely good enough to pass in the USAPL. Speed was quite good for 95% as well, and I don’t think the knees fell in much.

Bench Press- - YouTube
Ass came close to moving off the bench, but the arch, elbow tuck, pause, and speed were all pretty good.

Deadlift- - YouTube
Could possibly sink the hips and arch a little more to begin with, but overall, I’m pleased with the technique and speed of the lift.

Comments and critiques welcome and appreciated!

I’m going to be sore as hell tomorrow.

-Matt

[/quote]

Beautiful DL there Matt! Form was right on. you’ve really improved your arch on the BP and the squat was deeeeeeep. Nice job.

[quote]Mountainman2007 wrote:
wiiwii

Overall for you goals I believe that your plan is very solid. I have been having great success doing two weeks of dynamic work on squat and bench then one week of RE work along with your max effort work. You could give that a try. I believe in deloading I also believe that after a 12 week training cycle that you should take a couple of weeks with out a bar on your back or in your hands at all. Keep us updated and feel free to ask any specific questions. I do not think that your goals are to high.

Try and build yourself some board, just nail together some 2’’ by 6’'s , I would def go with one two and three boards, I really like 4 and 5 board as well, very cheap, prob free if you can pick up some scrap lumber. [/quote]

Thanks for the advice, I will try to get some boards :slight_smile:
I will give this a try and lets see what weights we can lift.

Matt, looking good I see little to no problems in your form…I’m sure someone will try an pick it apart but you seem to be on track. Its hard to lift with great form on heavy attempts.

Also…you missed a spot on your calve when you were shaving :wink:

Matt your form looks good to me brother, looking strong keep it up!

Matt:

Nice lifts. Did Eric Talmant’s coach recommend 1 rep at 95% instead of the 2-3 at 100-105% as written on the program?

Good stuff Matt! Looking strong.

2/14/08- Thursday- GPP/Active Recovery

1a)Wide Grip Pullups- BWx8 x8 x8 x6
1b)TKE- lightx15 x15 x18
1c)Band Pushdown- lightx25 x25 x25
2a)DB Lateral Raise- 35x15 x12
2b)Cuban Ext Rotation- 15x12 x12 x15 x12
2c)Prone Grip Chest Supp Machine Row- Stackx12 x10
2d)DB Hammer Curl- 40x8 35x8

40 minutes incline treadmill

Foam Rolling lower body

Notes: I got 4 hours of sleep last night due to school work, I’m looking forward to getting 10-12 tonight.

[quote]skidmark wrote:
Matt McG wrote:
Sheiko#32- W1 D2- Monday- 2/13/08

Skills Evaluation

1 Hour 40 Minutes

1)Squats
(50%)190x3
(60%)225x3 x3
(70%)265 (belt) x2 x2
(80%)300x2
(90%)340x1
(95%)355x1

2)Bench Press (meet pause)
(50%)140x3
(60%)170x3 x3
(70%)195x2 x2
(80%)225 (hand offs) x2
(90%)250x1
(95%)265x1

3)Deadlift
(50%)255x3
(60%)305x3 x3
(70%)355 (belt on) x2 x2
(80%)410x2
(90%)460x1
(95%)485x1

Recovery: Contrast Showers- 30s Cold/90s Hot x4 (full body- ending on cold)

Squat- - YouTube
Elbows could probably be pushed forward a little more. Depth was not too much, but seemed definitely good enough to pass in the USAPL. Speed was quite good for 95% as well, and I don’t think the knees fell in much.

Bench Press- - YouTube
Ass came close to moving off the bench, but the arch, elbow tuck, pause, and speed were all pretty good.

Deadlift- - YouTube
Could possibly sink the hips and arch a little more to begin with, but overall, I’m pleased with the technique and speed of the lift.

Comments and critiques welcome and appreciated!

I’m going to be sore as hell tomorrow.

-Matt

Beautiful DL there Matt! Form was right on. you’ve really improved your arch on the BP and the squat was deeeeeeep. Nice job.[/quote]

Thanks, man! I actually cut my depth from what I’ve been doing in training a little bit. Some people helped me realize that I may have been going unnecessarily deep before.

I appreciate the support.

[quote]skidmark wrote:
Matt McG wrote:
Sheiko#32- W1 D2- Monday- 2/13/08

Skills Evaluation

1 Hour 40 Minutes

1)Squats
(50%)190x3
(60%)225x3 x3
(70%)265 (belt) x2 x2
(80%)300x2
(90%)340x1
(95%)355x1

2)Bench Press (meet pause)
(50%)140x3
(60%)170x3 x3
(70%)195x2 x2
(80%)225 (hand offs) x2
(90%)250x1
(95%)265x1

3)Deadlift
(50%)255x3
(60%)305x3 x3
(70%)355 (belt on) x2 x2
(80%)410x2
(90%)460x1
(95%)485x1

Recovery: Contrast Showers- 30s Cold/90s Hot x4 (full body- ending on cold)

Squat- - YouTube
Elbows could probably be pushed forward a little more. Depth was not too much, but seemed definitely good enough to pass in the USAPL. Speed was quite good for 95% as well, and I don’t think the knees fell in much.

Bench Press- - YouTube
Ass came close to moving off the bench, but the arch, elbow tuck, pause, and speed were all pretty good.

Deadlift- - YouTube
Could possibly sink the hips and arch a little more to begin with, but overall, I’m pleased with the technique and speed of the lift.

Comments and critiques welcome and appreciated!

I’m going to be sore as hell tomorrow.

-Matt

Beautiful DL there Matt! Form was right on. you’ve really improved your arch on the BP and the squat was deeeeeeep. Nice job.[/quote]

Thanks, man! I actually cut my depth from what I’ve been doing in training a little bit. Some people helped me realize that I may have been going unnecessarily deep before.

I appreciate the support.