Westside/PLing Training Thread

02/06/08 - Upper (ME)

A) Bench Press with 5/8" Chains

225x3
275+1 Chainx1
315+2 Chainsx1
330+5 Chainsx0
330+3 Chainsx1
330+4 Chainsx0
315+4 Chainsx1

B) Seated Shoulder Press
135x5
185x8x3 (PR of some sort)

C) Rolling Triceps Extensions
EZ+50x10
+100x10
+120x6
+100x10

My shoulders were a little sore going into today, and I just didn’t have the pop off my chest. 330+5 chains would have been a 5lb PR, but it stalled halfway up. I backed off a couple of chains and felt good, but it just wasn’t there today. Dropped back to 315 to end on a positive note.

I’ve been trying to keep the shoulder pressing in the 12 rep range, but bumped the weight up today. These felt good considering that I had just finished with the chain pressing, but still not all there.

Doesn’t look like much on paper, but it took a lot out of me.

[quote]Power GnP wrote:
Russian lifter Yuriy Fedorenko registered a doping violation in an out of competition test which the IPF administered on September 24. The failure appears to violate the terms of the early termination of Russia’s doping suspension meaning the country will be suspended for an additional year. An official announcement has not been made by the IPF.

It also may mean that Russia’s results at the subsequent IPF Powerlifting World Championships will be voided, wiping out perfect scores on both the men’s and women’s side. If that happens, the U.S. would move up to gold on the men’s side and Chinese Taipei would be awarded gold, with the U.S. moving into bronze position, on the women’s side.

IPF President Detlev Albrings in a June release regarding the suspensions said that Russia and the Ukraine “have a probation period until 31st December 2008. If only one lifter of them is doping positive at an international or regional championship or OCT-test carried out by the IPF the concerned federation will be suspended again for one year.”
[/quote]

Those guys suck at cheating. 27 Russians and 30 Ukrainians are on the IPF suspension list for doping violations. Marion Jones passed over 160 drug tests. Lance Armstrong never failed a drug test in the most-tested sport on earth. Those Russians need to get their act together.

Sheiko#37- W4 D2- 2/6/08- Wednesday

1 Hour 30 Minutes

1)Bench Press (comp pause)
(50%)140x5
(60%)170x4
(70%)195x3 x3
(80%)225x3 x3
(85%)240x2 x2 x2

2)Deadlift
(50%)255x4
(60%)305x4
(70%)355x3 (belt on)x3
(80%)410x3 x3
(85%)435x2 x2 x2

3)Close Grip Bench Press (comp pause)(pinkies on rings)
(55%)155x5
(65%)180x5
(75%)210x4 x4 x4 x4

4a)Flat DB Flys
20x10 x10 x10 10x10 x10

4b)DB Hammer Curls
35x10 x8 x10

5)Static DB Lunges
35x5 x5 x5 x5 x5

Recovery: Contrast Showers (full body)- 20s Cold/90s Warm/Hot x4

Notes: Benching felt good. I actually used a shoe with a little bit of a heel for the benching (instead of chucks) and it felt a little better.

Deadlifts didn’t feel too bad. My eye felt like it was going to pop out on the last reps of the last 2 sets, but I’m pushing hard to keep the good form.

There was a guy last week in probably his mid forties doing deadlifts and GMs and I gave him some tips. He was doing deads again this week and said that he’d like to catch a workout with me, so I might have a little bit of a training partner again.

-Matt

ME Upper

Shoulder was feeling good today, so I did some floor pressing

Floor Press
45x?
95x5
135x3
155x3
185x3
205x3
235x1
255x1 5lb PR
260x1 10lb PR
235x2 (Rep PR + 1)

3 Board Close Grip
230x2x5
255x0 I didn’t realize that we hadn’t switched the weight from my partners set. Woops
230x4

Seated Row Overhand Should Width Grip
175x5x8

Fat Mans Pull-ups. Basically, I set the bar on the pins in power rack such that I could just reach it lying on the floor. I also put me feet up on box and kept my core tight so that my body was strait.

5x8 I might have done 6. I lost count.

Supersetted these with OH tri extensions with a rope
110x3x8
110x7

Bent Over Rear Delt Flies
17.5x4x10 - Yes, we have a 17.5lb DB

DONE!!

2/6/08: ME Upper

Incline Bench:
45x8x2
95x5
135x5
185x2
195x1
205x0,0
185x2
185x1x4

Got had really fast

DB Incline:
65x8x3
65x7

DB Row:
100x6
90x8x3

Reverse DB Shoulder Press:
15x12
15x10x2

Not sure wtf these are called, say Pemdas do them, figured they looked interesting. Definitely sucked, using 15lb db’s didn’t help the ego much either…

Vbar pulldown:
145x6x3

Pullups Underhand:
+25x3x2
bwx4

I think I do too much volume on ME days. What do you guys think?

[quote]AshyLarry wrote:
I think I do too much volume on ME days. What do you guys think?[/quote]

How many days a week are you lifting? That doesn’t look like too much volume, try Sheiko for a four week prep cycle…now thats volume.
What makes you think your overdoing it?, are you mentally fatigued, sore the next day week after week?

I’m doing the basic westside thing, mon-wed-fri-sun. I’m thinking I do too much because come Fridays I’m burn out. Haven’t had a good Friday in a while, I usually just feel like I’m dragging ass, weak and tired.

Bench
155x8
175x5
210x4
255x3x2 (3bd)
275x3x2 (3bd)

Left arm banged up at elbow so weight was hard to lock out on that side, still rehabing the SI joint strain. Left arm limited my grip strength so I passed on heavy back assistance work today.

Strict OHP
75x8
95x8
110x8x3 sets

BB Bicep Curls (varying grips)
10x4 sets

One Arm Machine Rows (3 different grips)
12x5 sets

Hyperextentions
205lb+45lb=250x8x3 sets

Back+Hamstring Flextion Work (on hyperextention rack)
1min holdx4 set

[quote]AshyLarry wrote:
I’m doing the basic westside thing, mon-wed-fri-sun. I’m thinking I do too much because come Fridays I’m burn out. Haven’t had a good Friday in a while, I usually just feel like I’m dragging ass, weak and tired. [/quote]

You sound like you have a pretty hectic schedule, maybe it makes sense to use a 3 day approach to allow for better recovery.

On your incline bench, if we take 195 to be your 1RM, or even 200, that means that 180 is 90% for you. I usually count a missed lift as 2 lifts over 90% and you missed twice. On your last set you did over 90% for 4 reps, which tells me that it’s not actually 90%, as in you may have missed the 205 attempts as a result of form issues and a lack of neural efficiency. Either way, going by the previous calculations, that’s about 10 lifts over 90%…which IS a lot. But then again, you probably wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) be able to get a 90% plus lift for 4 reps as the end of your ME work.

I would suggest working with triples for multiple sets or even fives, working up to a 3RM or 5RM over a period of a few weeks. This is more well-suited to those with less efficient nervous systems for their size, will help you build some muscle with the extra volume, and solidify proper technique.

Just some thoughts.

-Matt

Ashylarry, try a basic 3 day Sheiko template as your next training cycle. They are very straight forward with majority of the emphasis on the big three (as it should be in powerlifting). They seem to be very ‘nerologically efficent’ programs, you will work with 80-85% for triples for multiple sets, lots of volume with moderatly heavy weights.

[quote]AshyLarry wrote:
2/6/08: ME Upper

Incline Bench:
45x8x2
95x5
135x5
185x2
195x1
205x0,0
185x2
185x1x4

Got had really fast

DB Incline:
65x8x3
65x7

DB Row:
100x6
90x8x3

Reverse DB Shoulder Press:
15x12
15x10x2

Not sure wtf these are called, say Pemdas do them, figured they looked interesting. Definitely sucked, using 15lb db’s didn’t help the ego much either…

Vbar pulldown:
145x6x3

Pullups Underhand:
+25x3x2
bwx4

I think I do too much volume on ME days. What do you guys think?[/quote]

Thats not really a lot of volume, but if you aren’t recovering then cut it back. Try not going so intense for a while. Keep the reps in the 8 to 10 range. You basically maxed out on pullups. It is ok to do once and awhile, but be aware that maxing out on two movements murders your CNS.

I don’t like the way you worked up to single in the incline. Your jumps were far to big considering your max.

This would have been better.
45x??
95x5
125x3
135x3
155x3
175x1-2
185x1
195x1
205x1

The should press thing. I told him to do them with his chest supported on the back of bench at a roughly 80-85% incline. This forces the shoulder to externally rotate and insures the proper movement pattern(pressing over the head instead of in front of the head). The kid has really tight shoulders ands needs to work on this.

[quote]Matt McGorry wrote:
AshyLarry wrote:
I’m doing the basic westside thing, mon-wed-fri-sun. I’m thinking I do too much because come Fridays I’m burn out. Haven’t had a good Friday in a while, I usually just feel like I’m dragging ass, weak and tired.

You sound like you have a pretty hectic schedule, maybe it makes sense to use a 3 day approach to allow for better recovery.

On your incline bench, if we take 195 to be your 1RM, or even 200, that means that 180 is 90% for you. I usually count a missed lift as 2 lifts over 90% and you missed twice. On your last set you did over 90% for 4 reps, which tells me that it’s not actually 90%, as in you may have missed the 205 attempts as a result of form issues and a lack of neural efficiency. Either way, going by the previous calculations, that’s about 10 lifts over 90%…which IS a lot. But then again, you probably wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) be able to get a 90% plus lift for 4 reps as the end of your ME work.

I would suggest working with triples for multiple sets or even fives, working up to a 3RM or 5RM over a period of a few weeks. This is more well-suited to those with less efficient nervous systems for their size, will help you build some muscle with the extra volume, and solidify proper technique.

Just some thoughts.

-Matt
[/quote]

See…I told you triples are a good idea. He also has some good points about the # of lifts of 90%. A miss is tougher on my system than a hard lift. Try not to miss. Once and a while is ok, but don’t make a habit out of it.

yesterdays deadlift training:
up to 390kg (858lbs) after triples with 340kg (748lbs) and 360kg (792lbs) and one rep with 380kg (836lbs).

vid:

regards

2/7/08 - Thursday - Sheiko #37 Week 2 Day 3

Squat:
135x5
225x4
255x4
295x3
295x3 (+wrist wraps)
320x3 (+belt)
320x3
320x3
320x3
320x3
320x3

Bench:
155x6
185x5
215x4(+wrist wraps)
215x4
225x3
225x3
245x2
245x2
225x4
215x5
185x6
155x7

Squats II:
225x3
275x3
325x2 (+wrist wraps and belt)
325x2
325x2
325x2

Chest Supported Row:
275x8
275x8
275x8
275x8
275x8

Seated Good Morning:
155x6
155x6
155x6
155x6
155x6

Tate Press:
40’sx10
40’sx10
40’sx10
40’sx10
40’sx10

[quote]shane54 wrote:
yesterdays deadlift training:
up to 390kg (858lbs) after triples with 340kg (748lbs) and 360kg (792lbs) and one rep with 380kg (836lbs).

vid:

regards[/quote]

Goddamnit, stop getting so strong!

One week long vacation here. ALL gyms (and most businesses) are closed until Wednesday.

And my friends are out of town.

Guess it’s a backoff week (unitentional)

[quote]Donut62 wrote:
shane54 wrote:
yesterdays deadlift training:
up to 390kg (858lbs) after triples with 340kg (748lbs) and 360kg (792lbs) and one rep with 380kg (836lbs).

vid:

regards

Goddamnit, stop getting so strong![/quote]

I know I’m weak and all, but JEEZZZ mannnn…

Makes me feel like a 12 year old Japanese girl…(no offense to 12-year old Japanese girls.)

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Sheiko#37 W4 D3- 2/8/08- Friday

1 Hour 30 Minutes

1)Squat
(50%)190x5
(60%)225x4
(70%)265(belt) x3 x3
(80%)300x3 x3 x3 x3 x3 x3

2)Bench Press (comp pause)
(50%)140x5
(60%)170x5
(70%)195x5 x5 x5 x5 x5

3a)Flat DB Flys
15x10 x10 x10 x10 x10

3b)DB Twisting Curl
35x8 x8 x8

4)Dips
BWx8 x8 x8 x8 x8

5)Good Mornings
115x5 x5 x5 x5 x5

6)Body Rows (feet elevated- bench grip)
BWx15 x12

Notes: Felt pretty run down today. My knees were sore, but not as bad as at some points on #29. My elbows felt like Meat and Modi each took an arm and used it as a pogo stick.

The squats definitely slowed down a lot towards the end. On my last couple sets, I was taking 4-5 minutes rest between sets. I also worked on cutting the depth short a little bit and it seemed to be fine.

Start #32 next week and I can’t say I’ll really complain about taking down the volume, haha.

-Matt

DE Lower - Nothing special today.

Box Squat w/Purple bands
45x2x3
95x2
135x2
185x2
225x8x2

Pull-Throughs
200x5x10

Leg-Press
16 Plates x 10

Ab-Pulldowns
135x2x15

DONE!!!

2008.02.09

Testing at end of 16 week Sheiko cycle

Squat
235x3x1
280x3x2
325x2x2 Belt on
375x2x1
420x1x1
475x1x1 475lb Squat - YouTube
480x1x1 10lb PR 480lb Squat - YouTube

Press
90x3x1
110x3x1
125x2x2
145x2x1
165x1x1
170x1x1 10lb PR

Deadlift
265x3x1
320x2x1
370x2x2
425x1x1
480x1x1
535x1x1 Belt on
545x1x1 15lb PR 545lb Deadlift - YouTube

Pull-up
BWx3x1
BW+25x2x1
BW+45x1x1
BW+70x1x1
BW+90x1x1
BW+115x1x1 115lb Pull-up - YouTube

Chin-up
BW+115x1x1 115lb Chin-up - YouTube
BW+135xNope

Notes
My right shoulder has been feeling a bit wonky in general and in particular on the bench press for the past two weeks ever since I slept on my side and woke up with my shoulder slightly out of place. So, I decided to swap out bench press and replace it with a standing press for my max today. Thus, this will be a “Crossfit Total” instead of an unofficial powerlifting total. The squat and deadlift felt like I might have been able to eek out a few more pounds, but I was satisfied with those numbers for today and wanted to finish the lifts on a high note. The press was pretty difficult. I might have been able to get 175 if I’d done the warm up sets differently, but it wasn’t going to happen after that 170 attempt. At the end of the deadlift, I had some time to burn and figured it had been a long while since I tried maxing out on weighted pull-ups. The BW+115 is a 5lb PR on the added weight, but I weighed 20lbs less when I did the BW+110, so a 25lb PR on total weight, but not as good of a bodyweight multiple. All-in-all, a great evening of lifting.

So, my “Crossfit Total” = 1195.