Westside/PLing Training Thread

10/26/07 - Upper (ME)

A) Flat Bench
barx20
95x12
135x8
185x5
225x3
275x6
275x6
275x6
275x6

B) Bodyweight Dips
20
20
20

C) Hammer Strength BTN Press
(per side)
45x6
90x6
100x6
110x6 (PR +5lbs)
110x6!

D) Concentration Curls (Supinated)
30x6
40x6
50x6
50x6
50x6

Once again I had to lift on a Friday instead of Saturday. 48 hours isn’t optimal after my ME day, but I’m going to a seminar tomorrow, and wouldn’t have been able to get a lift in, so better today than never.

Bench felt good. I might have gone up in weight a little if I had a spotter, but didn’t feel the need to get pinned today.

Dips are coming along nicely, and my elbows felt great today. Something to do with the 4 Advil I took just before lifting…My shoulders still feel tight at the bottom of the motion, so I’m still going to stick with BW until they feel a little better.

I was surprised to hit a PR on the HS Behind the Neck Press today, given that my shoulders were still a little tired from Wednesday, but I’m not complaining.

ME Upper

A. Flat Bench
95x10
135x8
165x6
185x5
205x3
215x2
225x1
235x1
245x1(PR + 5 lbs)
250xmiss
225x1
195x8

B. Rack Lockouts
Pin#10
135x8
185x8
225x5
245x5
265x5
Pin#9
225x3
245x1
265x1
275x1
285x0

C. T-Bar Rows
140x10
175x8(PR + 2 reps)
175x8
175x8

D. Straight Arm lat pulldowns
80x8
80x8
80x8

E. Lateral raise dropset
F. Curl Drop set

Well I got a 5 lb PR on the Bench so that’s ok I guess. My bench is progressing really slow but I guess I should be pleased with improvement.

10/26/07- Friday- MEish Squat

A)Medium Stance, Medium Bar, Back Squats (Nike Frees)
Barx10
185x5
225x3
265x3
275x3 x3
295x2
255x8

Notes: Seminar at TPS tomorrow with Jason Ferrugia, Alwyn Cosgrove, CJ Murphy, and Jim Wendler. Up at 6AM, yay!!!

DE Lower

Box Squats
205 + Purple Bands
10x2 - nice and fast.

Speed Pulls
335x10x1 - Really fast, I might up the weight on these.

SLDL
255x4x8 - easy

Plank/Bridges
Front and both sides
45 x 1:15

DONE!

[quote]toroman wrote:
ME Upper

A. Flat Bench
95x10
135x8
165x6
185x5
205x3
215x2
225x1
235x1
245x1(PR + 5 lbs)
250xmiss
225x1
195x8

Well I got a 5 lb PR on the Bench so that’s ok I guess. My bench is progressing really slow but I guess I should be pleased with improvement. [/quote]

Toroman, I think you may be making slow progress because you are taking so many lifts over 90% before you attempt a PR. If your previous max was 240 then every lift over 215 is at or above 90%.

If you change around your warmups a little I’m pretty sure you could hit some higher numbers.

Maybe something like:

95x10
135x5
185x3
215x1
250x1
then hit your 90% lifts
240x1
240x1
230x1…

[quote]toroman wrote:
ME Upper

A. Flat Bench
95x10
135x8
165x6
185x5
205x3
215x2
225x1
235x1
245x1(PR + 5 lbs)
250xmiss
225x1
195x8

B. Rack Lockouts
Pin#10
135x8
185x8
225x5
245x5
265x5
Pin#9
225x3
245x1
265x1
275x1
285x0

C. T-Bar Rows
140x10
175x8(PR + 2 reps)
175x8
175x8

D. Straight Arm lat pulldowns
80x8
80x8
80x8

E. Lateral raise dropset
F. Curl Drop set

Well I got a 5 lb PR on the Bench so that’s ok I guess. My bench is progressing really slow but I guess I should be pleased with improvement. [/quote]

Modi touched on how you should fine tune your work-up sets. Another thing you might want to consider is that progress will typically be a lot slower on the bench than the other two big lifts (for most people anyway). As long as you’re making PRs, that is what’s most important.

Stick with the lift for three weeks (assuming you make improvements in the prior 2 weeks) then cycle into another bench variation. Don’t get frustrated when you only make a 5# PR, sometimes seasoned guys struggle and fight for months, even years, to get a 5# PR on a lift.

Bench Press
125x5x1
150x5x1
175x4x1
185x3x2
195x2x2
185x3x2
175x4x1
150x6x1
125x8x1

Chin-up and Dumbbell Bench Press Superset
BWx10x5
60x10x5

Squat
225x5x1
270x4x1
315x3x2
340x3x5

Good Morning
135x5x5

Lower back was a little sore from the deadlifting on Wednesday. It wasn’t noticable by the time I started the work sets for the squat. Aside from the chin-up/dumbbell bench superset (the program calls for chest flies), nothing too difficult/taxing.

i have a question refering to dave tates 9 week program, i already did it once with the excersizes that he pointed out in the 9 week program but i wanna do it again but with diff excersizes on the ME days, here are the excersizes that i wanna substitute in

week 1-3
ME lower, substitute goodmornings with deadlifts
ME upper, substitute foor press with narrow incline bench

week 4-7
ME lower, leave it the same
ME upper, substitute broad press with wide flat bench press

week 7-8
ME lower, leave it the same
ME upper, leave it the same

what do u guys think on my switching the ME excersizes around? good choices of excersiez? here i the linkk to the workut - http://www.elitefts.com/documents/9week-training-program.htm

I haven’t had time to post my workouts, but I’m still training PL style. I have to say, I love it! I’m going to do RE days instead of DE days for now though.

My initial plan was to do this for 6 weeks and then go back to a BB split. I think I’ll stick with the Westside template. I like to eat too much to be a bodybuilder anyway :slight_smile:

Yesterday I did BB floor presses. This was the first time I’ve ever done them. I suck at them! I think next week will be a lot better. This week I only worked up to 275lbs. I felt like I had a lot more in me, but the pause at the bottom killed it.

ME lower
dynamic warm up
revers hyper 210 lat tower abs 100 210 Land mines 210
camber bar good mornings
160
10
2103
250
3
3003
340
3
3903
410
1
430*1

RE Upper

The body weight is still sitting at 185, but I am feeling leaner.

Bench
200x4x8

This went well today. Each set was pretty fast. This rep work is coming along nicely.

Seated DB Shoulder Press
60x4x8

DB BOR
100x4x8 - Nice, it took me 3 weeks but I finally hit this. Grip is getting better. The damn thick handles are a bitch. It doesn’t help that I have small hands.

Tri-Pushdowns - just right arm
60x4x8

DONE!

Thanks Modi and Novaeer, I’ll try and rearrange how I’m doing things and see if that makes a difference.

RE Bench

DB Incline 35x12 (PR of some sort I think), 35x9, 30x10, 25x16

1 Pullups 15x6 (baseline PR) , 10x4, 5, 5
2 Facepulls 12, 10 @ 8, 16 @ 7

cable laterals 12, 12, 12, 10 @ 2

1 decline db extensions 20’sx8, 15’sx2x8
2 db shrugs 30’sx2x10, 25’sx12

plate pinches 3 dimes x 10 seconds (PR), 2 dimes x 30 seconds, 2 dimes and a nickel x 12 seconds

wrist roller

My usual approach to pullups has been to try to increase bw reps, but I noticed in my logs that I only increase my reps on the rare occasion that I add weight. That’s what I’m doing from now on.

DE Lower

Paused Jump Squats, a la Kelly Baggett, 45x3, 65x3, 75x3, 75x3, 75x3, 75x3, 75x3, 85x3

Elevated Reverse Lunges 20’sx8, 20’sx10, 20’sx7, 20’sx8

GM’s 95x8, 95x8, 95x8 (third set PR + 2 reps)

45 Degree Hypers 25x2x10, 25x12

1 DB Side Bends 45x3x10
Pulldown Abs pin 5 x 3x15

50 minutes

10/28/07 RE Upper

12" Log Strict Press

95x6
115x6
145x8 PR+10lbs!
150x6 PR+10lbs!

Flat bench

barxtons
135x6
155x6
175x7 PR+1 rep
155x6

Seated Row

70x12
120x12
140x8

Super set

plate wrist curls 5lbs per 3x10
plate reverse wrist curls 5lbs per 3x10

axle reverse curls 20lbs 3x20 damn talk about forearm pump.

I murdered the damn log strict press today, I was going to go for a 5lb 6rep PR but it was super easy by the 6th rep so I banged out 2 more than added another 5lbs to get a 10lb 6rep PR Every strongman comp should have a log, logs are cool axles suck! (hint hint)

feeling more and more comfortable on the bench I moved my grip in to pinkys on the rings as this will have better carry over to my overhead I think. What do all you consider close grip?

FINALLY I felt good enough to use somewhat of weight on a row movement, slowly bur surely, tire flips and stones by next month!

Got to get my wrists stronger for the axle clean and press so I am addressing that, reverse curls with axle got some blood flowing to the biceps and felt good.

anyone here have a westside template that shows the excerciss and rep cheme just like the Dave Tate 9 week program? anything would do, thanks guys

10/28/07- Sunday- SE Bench

1)Incline BB Bench (Narrow Grip)
(Barx10 x10 135x5 175x3)
205x3 x5 x5 215x5 220x5

2A)Chinup (Medium Grip)
BWx13 x10 x10

2B)Foam Roller Pushups (hands close)
BWx30 x35 x30

3A)Fat Man Pullup (prone grip, feel elevated)
BWx20 x16 x14

3B)DB Seated Lateral Raise
40x10 x8 x6

Notes: A bit fatigued from the seminar and whatnot yesterday, but still, decent workout.

-Matt

Playing Catch Up:

Fri RE Upper:

Inc BB Flies (8kg ea hand): 4x40

Dips (bodyweight) 4x30

Strict standing OHP:
40kg: 12 (PR +2reps), 12, 10, 10

Lat Pulldown:

4th pinhole: 4x30

Plate Pinches
4.5kg plate:
-rt hand: :40, :35, :22, :24
-lt hand: :30, :30, :29, :30

I messed around too much on that day…“you see, there were these 4 girls…”

AD

Today, ME Upper

Inc Bench Press (3 sec pause when on chest):

bar x15
40kg x10
50kg x5
60kg x3
70kg x1
80kg x1
87.2kg x1 (PR +2.6kg, but humped it like a rabbit…well, not that bad, but you get the point)
80kg x2 (PR +1rep)
75kg x5 (Pr +2 reps)

Decline Bench:

100kg x3, x2
90kg 6, 6, 6(PR +1rep)

Felt like crap on the Decline bench. I can do more weight and reps but the body simply wasn’t going to do it today. And I felt some aching in my right bicep from this weekend (of all the stupid things, I hurt it while swinging a baseball bat, somehow).

Chest supported rows:
50kg: 10, 10, 10
55kg: 6

Wide Grip Pushdowns on standing Lat Pulldown (2 sec pause at top)

5th pin down: 10, 10, 10, 5

Strange thing is that my whole right arm started to ache during these and somehow transferred to the left arm (NO JOKE). I should have gotten at least 10 on the 4th set, though…but I had nothing left in me.

Maybe next week is a deload, although I really hate to do them.

As always, any advice or comments are appreciated and welcomed.

AD

Gotta say thanks to Jim Wendler for calling me out on my high bar squatting at The BIG Seminar. After watching me squat he said something along the lines of “You guys are the biggest bunch of high bar squatters I’ve ever seen.” After making a couple of excuses why I don’t low bar squat, I got the bar into the right position, and it felt like it could be a very good thing for me.

10/29/07 - Lower (ME) - Doubles

A) PL Low Bar Squat
135x6
225x6
315x3
365x3
405x2
455x2 (PR+20lbs) (Smoked It)
465x1 (PR +10lbs)
435x2
435x2

B) SLDL
135x6
225x5
315x6
385x6
405x6 (tie PR)
405x6

C) T-Bar Row
90x6
180x6
180x6
215x6 (PR +10lbs)

D1) Decline Russian Twists
+35lbs
x10
x8
x6

D2) Decline Sit Up
+35lbs
x10
x8
x6

Moving the bar to a low bar position felt awkard for me today, but I definitely felt much stronger. After smoking 455x2, I was going to go for 465x2, but I think I got the bar a little too low and felt my right shoulder taking a bunch of the strain. Just took the single (still a PR) and hit a couple more doubles at 435. I’m feeling very confident about hitting 475 next week, which would mean that I accomplished all of my orginal goals for the year which were 575 DL (actually hit 600), 375 Bench, 475 Squat.

I was happy to tie my SLDL PR even in a fatigued state, and the T-Bar Rows went well, but any heavier and the form is going to get sloppy.

Overall, very happy with the way things are going right now.