Westside/PLing Training Thread

Aug 1st

Morning conditioning.
SOS

Day 2 Bench

  1. 2 board Press
    Bar x ton
    135 x 12
    225 x 5
    275 x 3
    315 x 2
    335 x 1
    365 x miss
    345 x 1
    275 x 7 full ROM

  2. incline press Close grip
    135 x 10
    185 x 5
    225 x 9

  3. decline DB bench + red band
    60 x 15
    75 x 5, 4

  4. Machine Chest Supported Row
    180 x 15
    270 x 9
    360 x 4, 5
    270 x 9

5A) Wood Chopper
150 x 10, 10, 10, 10 10

5B)Rope Pdown
190 x 9
Stack x 6, 9, 8

Been a LONG time since I did any board pressing was a Nice relief for the shoulders. Should have had the 365 came off the bottom and just fell flat. couldn?t end that way so nailed the 345 easy then decided one set of Full ROM all the rest had been to the boards Man this set felt great was planning hoping for a good easy 5 hit that and did two more.

Incline dropped a ton of the junk sets I had been doing moved up two reps on the 225 will up the load next week.

REALLLY wish the gym had some bigger DB?s what kind of world is it that a commercial gym only goes to 75lbs. that?s ok making do with the bands and this week moved up a and wrapped it low down around a support about 5-6 inches below the bench got some nice tension.

All in all good w/o.

Hey guys, bit of a stupid question but I need to ask:

I just did ultra wides for my m.e. lift today and wokred up to a 3rm and did it a few sets.

What I was wondering is if ultra wides should be more or less difficult than a standard bench?

I know it’s stupid but I need a general guide on what to shoot for.

Ultra wides will for most people be less than their standard grip flat bench.

I’d be careful using them as max effort exercises due to the great stress it puts on the shoulder joint. I think they are typically used as more of a repetition effort exercise.

-MAtt

ME Upper Body

Went to some Comercial Gym… Sucked…

Engbank
44/15 x2 - 88/5 - 132/3 - 154/3 - 176/3- 198/1 - 209/1 - 220/1 - 231/X - 220/1
All of the singles felt pretty easy, but the guy I asked to spot me could’nt let his hands off the bar, so I have no accurate PR set. I asked him to not touch the bar the last set with 231, but I could get the bar only 3 to 4 inches off my chest and couln’t complete the rep…

Military Press
44/5 - 66/5 - 88/5 - 99/5
Pushpress
110/5 - 121/5 - 132/1 heavy, stopped there

Too funny. This one guy approached me and asked me about the military press because he hadn’t seen the ecercise before…

Chest Supp Row
4x8-10

Shruggs
3x8-20

Trizeps with EZ bar
4x6-10

Rear delts
abs

[quote]Matgic wrote:
Ultra wides will for most people be less than their standard grip flat bench.

I’d be careful using them as max effort exercises due to the great stress it puts on the shoulder joint. I think they are typically used as more of a repetition effort exercise.

-MAtt[/quote]

Thanks, I hear you. Tate reccomended working up to 2 heavy sets of 5 to 6. I’m probably going to screw myself in the long run going for a few heavy sets of 3 but I don’t feel any pain yet.

But hey, if I do, at least Ill have something to blame myself for.

ME Bench

3 Board Press- 45x10, 135x10, 225x8, 315x3, 365x1, 405x1, 435x1 PR, 385X3.

Rolling db ext.- 45x4x12

chest supported rows- 5x5

face pulls- 5x15

The 435 went up pretty slowly but overall was a very clean lift. I can finally feel my RAAAWWW bench coming along lol.

July 7th

Morning Conditioning
SAME

Day 1 RE 8 rm

  1. Deficite Deadlift, Stiff Leg close stance from 5 inch platform
    135 x 15
    225 x 10
    275 x 10
    315 x 5
    365 x 3
    440 x 12

  2. Grip Work, lock out hold
    615 lbs for roughly 20+ seconds used weak grip this time

  3. Tire flipping 500lb tire
    3 x 17

  4. Pillar Bridges
    3 x 45lbs
    60 secs,
    35 secs x 2

5A) Cable crunch
120 x 30
160 x 30
180 x 25

5B)leg curls
100 x 30
145 x 20
165 x 25

Weight = 111.5 kg

Great w/o really upped the load 25lbs from the last time one month ago on the deficite DL?s and got 3 extra reps that last one was a MOTHER but got it.

Really trying to up the ab work as the strength there has fallen behind the lower back my low back glutes etc is for sure my strong suit.

Then tire flipping just went slow on these today in comparison hips etc are still VERY tight/sore from Monday think it?s the addition of the heavy leg pressing tried doing the ole farmers walk with it to put it back and grip was shot

All in all great w/o

Yesterday hiked 20K up a damn mountain then climbed a temple. Was a good time sweated my ass off but I made it. 2.5 hours so roughly 12 mins a mile. Calves were SCREAMING the first 5K or so all pretty steep uphill grade the whole way then all was good the ole toes held up great lil sore the last few K.

Hey guys, havn’t posted my workouts in a while but I’ve been lifting. I have a question regarding my squats (Matgic you know what’s comming). I seem to have a problem on box and free squats at keeping my torso upright. I start out ok, but lean forward way too much when I’m in the whole. My squat looks like a good morning. What do I need to work on to fix this? I try to drive my head back and pop straight up, but something in my form is breaking down or something is weak and I can’t figure it out. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

DD

[quote]Devil0351Dog wrote:
Hey guys, havn’t posted my workouts in a while but I’ve been lifting. I have a question regarding my squats (Matgic you know what’s comming). I seem to have a problem on box and free squats at keeping my torso upright. I start out ok, but lean forward way too much when I’m in the whole. My squat looks like a good morning. What do I need to work on to fix this? I try to drive my head back and pop straight up, but something in my form is breaking down or something is weak and I can’t figure it out. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

DD [/quote]

Hey there DD been a while I started posting here band you friggin left thought I scared you off might have you trying somke new crazy coplexes or some shit :slight_smile:

Had / have the same prob and for me it several things fold form and weakness and strengths.

#1 My low back, hams, glutes is my strong point wieght gets heavy damn body of course leans toward the the strong point even if you dont want it to. God but BAD.

#2. My frigging abs now are lacking in comparison to my low back etc… started concentrating on that as are my legs quads. aiming to birng those up to par.

#3 Form not driving the hips. Yes need to get that head up, chest out and back tight I find it best to Lower my head when I come down then raise my head for the accent that puts all that in line BUT then was/am rising. Rising straight all good and well BUT not pushing the legs out enough driving the Hips Under you/me Like your driving it home with your girl. If you have that upper back tight and head up. then activateing the hips/glutes by pushing out at the legs and IN where it counts bringing the Ass under you that will have tha automatic effect of NOT GMing.

Your like I am letting the load get way to in front of the center I think. Not driving the hips home rising UP. Using quads/legs and NOT activationg the glutes/hips enough if that makes since gte those hips under Not up and you’ll get Under the load. get all of that moving in unison legs back gluts etc etc. easier said then done but sure soimething to work on

Hope that makes some type of since.

Phill

Phil’s upcoming plunge Westside to fit me.

Two big changes I cant see me not pulling so I will be once a week be it DE or ME. Then I also cant not OH press It just friggin works from the foot to the head. Other then that it wil be pretty much Westside as in DE/ME and fill in the gaps to hit the weak spots.

Let me know what you all think

Prob starting the bench DE/ME sort of this week stciking to me Squat Day and DL day for the next two weeks will change it after I move back to the states gotta keep busting my partners ass here for now and were going pretty well in this Im just starting to get a bit beat up from two heavy days a week.

Oh also thoughts on ME being Monday Tuesday then DE Fri sat. I just like that plan seems to fit me well. Any down draws only I can think of is the hella whack on the CNS on those two days but have two full days to recover then .

Squat/dl ME rotation.

Squat (free)
DL from deficite
Low box squat
Sumo DL
Safety squat bar (parallel box)
Band DL?s (conventional)

With the squats Im thinking do RDL?s, SLDL or Pin Pulls for the supp exercise

For the DL day Front Squats , GM?s or some heavy ass leg pressing

Then nail one or two ab moves

Something for the low back reverse hyper, pull through back extension

Call it a day OR

Prehab maybe maybe light tire flipping etc dragging the sled hit some high unilateral work like high step ups yada yada.

Will rotate it squat, DL, squat, DL, etc week to week

Squat/dl DE Rotataion

Pretty much simple figure if On ME day I did a squat on DE day Ill do a DL or pull. Or vise versa

Thinking like DL either band tension speed pulls, or cleans. For the squat parallel or below, box squat.

Supplement acc. Same as above. But will add a unilateral move either step ups or lunges this day I have to have this once a week with the bad leg just to aim to keep it getting better not even close to parallel with the other

Pressing

ME

Push Press
3 board press
Full ROM Bench
Incline press
High band tension Press

Some tri work (high volume)

A row (high volume) chins once a week

A db press

delts

And an abs paired with an external rotation

DE
Speed bench

Some tri work (high intensity)

A row (high intensity) chins once a week

A db press

Delts (if didn?t OH press on me will do it here)

And an abs paired with an external rotation

that?s the gest of it fill in where needed and as I notice weak spots like right now quads and abs are lacking IMO so hitting abs each w/o rotating intensity and volume. May also be like I am now using tire fliping etc one day for the supp work.

Let me know thoughts hell anything looks good on paper I suppose.

Phill

Guys I need your help…

I’m a noob to the westside style of training and I’m trying to figure out why I’m not breaking PR’s.

I’ve jsut finished my 3rd week of 2 board presses up to a 5rm this week.

it went like this:
week 1: 115kg for 5
week 2: 120kg for 5
week 3: 125k for 2 reps

I wouldn’t have thought I’d burn out that quickly since I was new to the movement.

I think this could be caused by 2 things…

1)working up to a 3rm on the DE with 4 boards
week 1:135 for 3
week 2: 140 for 3

  1. not rotating the exercise quick enough.

So which should I try first? Lowering the intensity on DE day and go to 3x6 or rotate the exercises every 2 weeks??

Or am i completly off base and I’m missing something totally obvious?

I’ll throw one in too.

ME bench
reverse green band press
-225x5
-275x3
-315x1
-365x1
-415x1, 10lb PR, had more but feeling beat up so stopped

4 board press
-225x3
-275x3
-315x3, once again still had more

pulldowns
-2 plates x 10
-3 plates x 8,8
-2 plates x 15

green band pushdowns- 3x12

Bodyweight- 187lbs

8/2/06- Wed- ME BP- Medium volume

A)BB Floor Press (pinkies on rings)
145x5
175x3
205x2
235x1
265x1 (above 90%)
280x1 (above 90%)
*PR- 290x1 (above 90%)

B1)DB Tricep Extension
35x10 x9 x6 x8

B2)Fat Bar Pullups (fast tempo)
BWx10 x8 x6 x8

C1)Lateral Raise (to front of body)
45x12 x10 40x10

C2)DB Hammer Curl
40x11 x7 x7

D)Cable Ext Rotation
25x10 x10 (w/peturbation)x10

Notes: *The PR was just a tap of the fingers from the spotter. I’ll consider it a PR, but it’s not like it was a huge one in any case, so I’ll take it for what it is.

I felt pretty jacked up after it and the rest of the workout went pretty strong.

-MAtt

Ill give my 2cc

  1. your over doing the DE day if your working up to any RM weekly

  2. your expecting to big of jumps every week. 5 KG weekly aint always going to happen thats 11 lbs. 1 friggin lb is a PR the longer your at it the smaller the jumps will get.

  3. first two weeks you were running of a lot of mental power. New program, your doing “WESTSIDE!!!” Hyped up using that to nnail a new PR come week three reality sets in your getting a lil comfortable and maybe not bringing the same intensity/effort try and go in there like the first two weeks every week.

  4. its more about the strain than the PR.

  5. sure rotate your new to this but how new are you to lifting??

Any of the above or combo of IMO

Phill

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Guys I need your help…

I’m a noob to the westside style of training and I’m trying to figure out why I’m not breaking PR’s.

I’ve jsut finished my 3rd week of 2 board presses up to a 5rm this week.

it went like this:
week 1: 115kg for 5
week 2: 120kg for 5
week 3: 125k for 2 reps

I wouldn’t have thought I’d burn out that quickly since I was new to the movement.

I think this could be caused by 2 things…

1)working up to a 3rm on the DE with 4 boards
week 1:135 for 3
week 2: 140 for 3

  1. not rotating the exercise quick enough.

So which should I try first? Lowering the intensity on DE day and go to 3x6 or rotate the exercises every 2 weeks??

Or am i completly off base and I’m missing something totally obvious?[/quote]

[quote]Phill wrote:
Ill give my 2cc

  1. your over doing the DE day if your working up to any RM weekly

  2. your expecting to big of jumps every week. 5 KG weekly aint always going to happen thats 11 lbs. 1 friggin lb is a PR the longer your at it the smaller the jumps will get.

  3. first two weeks you were running of a lot of mental power. New program, your doing “WESTSIDE!!!” Hyped up using that to nnail a new PR come week three reality sets in your getting a lil comfortable and maybe not bringing the same intensity/effort try and go in there like the first two weeks every week.

  4. its more about the strain than the PR.

  5. sure rotate your new to this but how new are you to lifting??

Any of the above or combo of IMO

Phill

[/quote]

THanks Phill.

I think you’re dead right on number 1 and 2. Hard (but not all out sets) on DE to replace the RM attempts so?

As for liffting… I’ve been lifting about 2 years and I’ve gone 182.5/115/192.5 in a comp so I’m a bit past the total nebie stage!

Great advice. Thanks again!

Bench accessory

So I’ve decided to drop the DE work, since it hasn’t been doing much for me. And decided to put in a shoulder movement instead, which has been beneficial for me in the past.

push press- 185x5x5

rack lockouts- 495x3x3

db bench- 85x3x10

pulldown- 3x10

some other lat movement which I have no clue of what the name is lol- 3x10

barbell shrugs- 315x3x20

I think that this will give me a lot better results than what the DE was giving me. So I’m just gonna have to see what happens. Wish me luck!!!

8/4/06- Fri- DE LB- Medium volume

A)DE Box Squat (med stance w/light bands to parallel)
(+light bands- bar, 95, 135, 175)
195x2 x2 x2 x2 185x2 x2 x2 x2

B)4" Defecit Deads
275x1 295x1 x1 x1 x1 305x1 x1 x1 x1 x1

C)BB Good Morning
135x10 175x10 195x6

D)Olympic Squat (ATG)
185x8 205x6 225x5

E)Reverse Hyper (medium tempo)
50x10 x12 x12

Notes: Box squats didn’t feel that fast today. I’m pretty sure I’ve been sitting to far back on the box. When I do this, in order to regain my center of gravity, I have to sway my torso backwards. I tried a couple reps sitting onto the corner of the box and not as far back and it felt a bit better. Something to remember for next time.

Deads felt good and explosive.

Finally did Good mornings the right way.

I’m pleased with my olympic squat. I haven’t done an ATG back squat in quite a while. My most ever previously a number of months ago was the same as it is now. But this time it was my 4th exercise and I hadn’t been concentrating on it especially.

Starting next week, I’m going to cut out my DE LB day. My diet is already very low in carbs and as low as I think I should go in calories, but the fat loss has halted. I need to get some cardio in there. I should be able to at least maintain, if not gain some more lower body strength here, but I feel like the 2nd day is just a bit too much right now. I’ll be incorporating HIIT from CT’s “Running Man” article twice a week. I really want to get a bit leaner so I have room to fatten up on my next (and probably last) bulk. Suggestions are welcome.

-MAtt

Tried the glute/ham raise today and it is a bitch. Does anyone else do these and if so what kind of reps are you doing? I also picked up my reverse hyper pro today and am loving it. Got a smoking deal on it.

[quote]bigg mike wrote:
Tried the glute/ham raise today and it is a bitch. Does anyone else do these and if so what kind of reps are you doing? I also picked up my reverse hyper pro today and am loving it. Got a smoking deal on it. [/quote]

Yup there a bitch but worth it.

Reps depends on the load if Im going HEAVY I may only get a few say 3-5 and then will do then more of a back extension then rest.

other days will do Body weight. Just try and mix it up and sure to do them once a week.

Nice work on the reverse hyper Id love to get one.

Aug 7th
Morning conditioning.
same

also now riding bicycle to gym as sold motorcycle only a short ride though nice as long as not raining.

Day 1 Load ME=100

  1. Squat .
    bar x ton,
    135 x 10
    225 x 5
    315 x 3
    405 x 1
    425 x 1
    475 x -,-
    405 x 5

  2. Leg press
    270 x 10
    360 x 8
    450 x 5
    540 x 5
    630 x 3
    720 x 2

3)GM?s
225 x 10
315 x 10, 10

  1. Hanging Leg Raises 3x??
    Bw + 20 x 10,10,7,6,6,5,5

  2. single leg extension
    70 x 10,
    85 x 10
    100 x 7
    Drop set

Notes:
SUCK may be part mental but I know from the feel it isn?t. hips/quads felt OK today for the first time just walking etc but once started squatting could feel them ache in the bottom even at very light loads. Its just compounding of all the heavy work. Its taking a toll. Was pity full toes felt great but got pinned twice in the bottom of a measly 475 squat. wasn?t for lack of effort I was seeing starts from the pushing and the second attempt got it moving just wasn?t there today Hips ached big time trying. Im going to go at this one more friggin week then have a forced down week moving which I think will be good then I must moved to a ME/DE day I just cant take the max effort twice a week any more with the loads getting high its to much to handle.

The Hip pain is also from the new stimulus of the leg press havent felt this prior and got on the leg press today and man that really triggered it. I think the addition of the leg press is going to pay off due to the new stimulus me not using it much as an assistance but need time. Can do it and go heavy twice a week. Bumped the leg press another 40lbs my quads and hips were aching for 5 days after last week That was TO much today there was pain called it after two reps

Toes still a bit swollen but feel OK healing fast Im happy with the two weeks progress

These are looking more and more like classic ME days Im liking this rotation was going to opt for the box squat but figured what the hay go another week without testing the toes etc. working a lot on a faster set up etc. In hind sight should have changed the ME exercise will begin a 1 week rotation when I get back to the states and after the down week.

that?s it not great w/o all in all.