Westside/PLing Training Thread

[quote]Kalle wrote:
Damn Modi, no fucking around today ha?

I like how you set that up so you got some normal bench work in and than went to off the pins once it started getting heavier. That way you don’t “lose your grove”[/quote]

Nope, I’ve tried the fucking around approach, and I managed to hit 2 platueas. It was time for a change.

I take a lot of time to warm up due to old shoulder issues, so it just made sense to go through my normal warmups. I hadn’t even thought about the groove. But it is interesting trying to do the lockouts. The bar has to be in the right starting point, otherwise you are way out of your groove, even if it’s only off by an inch or so.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
great… you aren’t happy just being a PR whore. Now you are a volume whore as well.

the barbell holds are definitely a killer. I like to vary my grip. If I’m going for a PR I usually take a wide grip. Keep plugging away with them. You will be amazed at how “light” your full range stuff will be.

keep up the hard work or I’ll punch you in your junk :slight_smile:

meat
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Not true. I’m quite content with being the PR whore. In general I prefer to work out more often for less time. You guys can keep fighting for the volume title. I just had the extra time yesterday, and had a bunch of stuff I wanted to get done. But in general I do better with a shorter list and just brining the intensity to fewer exercises.

That was definitely the first time I’d held 495 over my chest. It was amazing how much stabilization was required and how hard you have to work to stay set up. My shoulders were working hard not to collapse into the bench. Good stuff there. I’ll probably bump it up to 515 next week and see if I can get another 20 second hold at that weight. Thanks again for the tip.

[quote]Modi wrote:
Yeah, I was kind of in the gym for a long time. I just had a lot of stuff I wanted to get done. I definitely ‘greyed’ out. Luckily the pins were there. I was so close to lockout and the bar just stood there for a good 3 seconds before life got fuzzy.

I was so pissed that I didn’t lock out, that I was able to lock the second attempt.

I tried moving the pins down one position, but found it impossible to set up under…If I try them again in the lower position, I might have to take the weights off the standards, bring them down to the pins and stay set up for a few seconds, and then attempt the lockout. But I’m not sure I’d be any better off doing that. Board pressing is looking good for next week.[/quote]

Yeah, you’re probably just better off sticking with the mid-level to higher end pins. Unless you really have an off-the-chest weakness, which it appears that you don’t, the higher pins are definitely the way to go unless you want a change of pace.

However, low-level pin presses can help to teach you to stay tight when the weight is on your chest; I’ll throw them in for a week or two if I feel this is becoming an issue.

You’re gonna love the boards, just not the “What are the boards for” question I’ve heard a few billion times.

[quote]novaeer wrote:
Modi wrote:
Yeah, I was kind of in the gym for a long time. I just had a lot of stuff I wanted to get done. I definitely ‘greyed’ out. Luckily the pins were there. I was so close to lockout and the bar just stood there for a good 3 seconds before life got fuzzy.

I was so pissed that I didn’t lock out, that I was able to lock the second attempt.

I tried moving the pins down one position, but found it impossible to set up under…If I try them again in the lower position, I might have to take the weights off the standards, bring them down to the pins and stay set up for a few seconds, and then attempt the lockout. But I’m not sure I’d be any better off doing that. Board pressing is looking good for next week.

Yeah, you’re probably just better off sticking with the mid-level to higher end pins. Unless you really have an off-the-chest weakness, which it appears that you don’t, the higher pins are definitely the way to go unless you want a change of pace.

However, low-level pin presses can help to teach you to stay tight when the weight is on your chest; I’ll throw them in for a week or two if I feel this is becoming an issue.

You’re gonna love the boards, just not the “What are the boards for” question I’ve heard a few billion times.[/quote]

Fortunately I haven’t made any friends at the gym (all part of the master plan). Something about having my headphones in all the time, the pissed off look between sets, the pacing back and forth and doing exercises that most people have never seen before (such as deadlifts, squats to parallel, bench press where you actually touch your chest with the bar, etc.)

I doubt that adding boards will make anyone more likely to talk to me, or make me seem more approachable! lol. At least I hope not.

Looking forward to trying something new though. They should be fun.

[quote]Kalle wrote:
Hey Modi thought you might be interested

Massachusetts Strongman Contest 8/25


Hey guys, I posted this on the Anvil, but figured I’d repost it here as well. Iâ¿¿ll be promoting my first strongman show, the â¿¿Strength Beyond Strength" Charity Strongman Challenge on August 25th in Waltham, MA.

Proceeds are going to the American Cancer society, so hopefully we can get a great turnout. Weâ¿¿ve already got some good sponsors lined up such as ESPN Radio, Sam Adams, Pizzeria Uno, Red Bull and Myonova Supplements.

Events are:
â¿¢ Tire Flip / Sled Drag
â¿¢ Harness Truck Pull
â¿¢ Conanâ¿¿s Wheel
â¿¢ Log Clean & Press
â¿¢ 18â¿¿ Axle Deadlift

The entry form should be up by very shortly with weights, hotel info, etc.

Thanks,
John Sullivan

Also another one in Rhode Island on I think September 8th
[/quote]

Hey, thanks Kalle.

I may be away that week in August, which sucks, because it would be fun to try, or at the very least go and watch. I’ll have to check with my social coordinator and see if we will be back by then. But I will look into it.

Modi,

http://www.ristrongman.com/

there is info about the one in Rhode Island, I think thats fairly close to you?

So I tweaked my left knee a little last night playing softball. It’s nothing serious at all, but decided not to push it after the Box Squats since I’m going to DL tomorrow. On a positive note, I’m on an ‘A’ league and a ‘B’ league team and both of them will be playing for the championship next week.

07/26/07 - Squat (DE)

A) 14" Box Squat (Wide Stance)
barx12
135x8
185x8

add light bands…
135x2x2
185x2x2 (good speed)
225x2x2 (slow)
205x2x5 (good)

B) Lat Pulldown (Double Single Handles)
80x10
100x8
120x6
140x6
160x6x3

C) DB Hammer Curls (Pyramid 30sec rest)
30x8
40x8
50x6
60x6
50x6
40x8
30x8

D) Calf Raise (2 feet)
x100 (baseline PR)

I went with the wide stance on Box Squats today, and after my groin loosened up a little, these felt pretty good. I couldn’t get the pop out of the bottom at 225 so I went down in weight. Made sure to relax the hips at the bottom this time and keep my elbows pulled forward. I also set the bands up around the base of the rack instead of around DB’s and had a nice consistent tension throughout the range.

Kept it reasonable today, someone else can have the volume record. Calves will be sore from that little work I’m sure.

[quote]Kalle wrote:
Modi,

http://www.ristrongman.com/

there is info about the one in Rhode Island, I think thats fairly close to you?[/quote]

Yes, that one is about an hour away.

The Waltham, MA one is only about 15 minutes from here, and I like the looks of those events better.

2007-7-26
Deload assistance #2
Ballistic pullups
BW 8,2x10

Ballistic DB Curls
40 3x10

Notes: just for giggles trying to see how fast I can go up and down with these and keep form. Let’s see if Chad and Thibs are right.

Causes a helluva pump, let’s see if it translates to strength…Do regular reps and weight on ME days. Basically light and fast days and heavier and AFAP days. Dropping the volume stuff for core lifts. Back to Bands for me and 3-5 sets of 3 reps for me on special and assistance exercises. Push conditioning on lift days.

Events July 26th

Not feeling it today just not fired UP ok but I dunno just one of those days got better a bit as it went on.

Long session as well near 2 hours, Hot as heck

1)Tire flips
400 x some warm ups
700 x 3 (2 sets), x 4 (2 sets) 2 minutes rest
400 x 10
Man these felt crazy heavy today, slow maybe I need to have a better general warm up ?�???

2)Log Clean and Press
Log x ??
140 x 5
160 x 5
180 x 3
200 x 3
220 x 1
230 x 1 post op PR
235 x 1 another post op PR
240 x Miss got the clean
No Rest 200 x 5
OK all in all not bad still a long way to go. The 220 with 12 inch log was same I had to try 4 times to get before nailing it in Nebraska, then got the 230 and 235, cleaned the 240 was just not happening still getting zero leg drive but I suppose better and the positive the cleans are cake now No arm pain

  1. Farmers
    130 x 50
    220 x 50
    270 x 50
    290 x 20 Good bye Palm
    Man these were going well today the 270 was fast. Got up and roillin with the 290 and just felt the palm peel away dropped it and called it there

  2. Keg Loading
    Saved for last want to see if the arm can even handle the 300 load yet most Ive done is lap it
    200 x some
    300 x 4 - 5 half attempts keg slipping I was soaked
    Even the 200 was kind of a bear I was sweating so much and the kegs themselves were Hot as heck it would just slide on me. And turn. Almost nail the 300 one time before it gave way and rolled the chalk was turning to mud etc.

I have to get going on this loading stuff I was pretty good at these post injury it rather pisses me off to not load that 300 when I was getting it before for 4-5 reps FAST ah well another day

All in all good day some progress on the log and farmers went well

Phill

DE Lower

A. Broad jump holding 20# dumbbells
6 x 5

B. Dynamic trap-bar deadlifts
225#, 10 x 3

C. 1-leg RDL
3 x 15 holding 45# plate in each hand

D. Backward drags
6 plates for 80m

Comments:
Good session today. My best jumps were over 8’, which I think is pretty solid with 40 pounds of added weight. Definitely going to be hitting over 10 feet on regular broad jumps when I get back to it. Everything else going good, the RDLs are pretty much harder on the hands (holding the plates) than my p-chain but whatever. Soon I’ll have access to heavy dumbbells so that’ll be fine. Drags fucking suck, no way around it. Wanted to quit halfway through but pushed through and got em done.

[quote]Phill wrote:
Man these were going well today the 270 was fast. Got up and roillin with the 290 and just felt the palm peel away dropped it and called it there

Phill [/quote]

Nice…got pictures?

You’re winning on volume today unless someone else can step up.

[quote]jtrinsey wrote:

DE Lower

A. Broad jump holding 20# dumbbells
6 x 5

B. Dynamic trap-bar deadlifts
225#, 10 x 3

C. 1-leg RDL
3 x 15 holding 45# plate in each hand

D. Backward drags
6 plates for 80m

Comments:
Good session today. My best jumps were over 8’, which I think is pretty solid with 40 pounds of added weight. Definitely going to be hitting over 10 feet on regular broad jumps when I get back to it. Everything else going good, the RDLs are pretty much harder on the hands (holding the plates) than my p-chain but whatever. Soon I’ll have access to heavy dumbbells so that’ll be fine. Drags fucking suck, no way around it. Wanted to quit halfway through but pushed through and got em done.
[/quote]

Nice work today.

Any reason you can’t do the 1L RDL’s with a barbell?

[quote]Phill wrote:
Events July 26th

Not feeling it today just not fired UP ok but I dunno just one of those days got better a bit as it went on.

Long session as well near 2 hours, Hot as heck

1)Tire flips
400 x some warm ups
700 x 3 (2 sets), x 4 (2 sets) 2 minutes rest
400 x 10
Man these felt crazy heavy today, slow maybe I need to have a better general warm up ?�???

2)Log Clean and Press
Log x ??
140 x 5
160 x 5
180 x 3
200 x 3
220 x 1
230 x 1 post op PR
235 x 1 another post op PR
240 x Miss got the clean
No Rest 200 x 5
OK all in all not bad still a long way to go. The 220 with 12 inch log was same I had to try 4 times to get before nailing it in Nebraska, then got the 230 and 235, cleaned the 240 was just not happening still getting zero leg drive but I suppose better and the positive the cleans are cake now No arm pain

  1. Farmers
    130 x 50
    220 x 50
    270 x 50
    290 x 20 Good bye Palm
    Man these were going well today the 270 was fast. Got up and roillin with the 290 and just felt the palm peel away dropped it and called it there

  2. Keg Loading
    Saved for last want to see if the arm can even handle the 300 load yet most Ive done is lap it
    200 x some
    300 x 4 - 5 half attempts keg slipping I was soaked
    Even the 200 was kind of a bear I was sweating so much and the kegs themselves were Hot as heck it would just slide on me. And turn. Almost nail the 300 one time before it gave way and rolled the chalk was turning to mud etc.

I have to get going on this loading stuff I was pretty good at these post injury it rather pisses me off to not load that 300 when I was getting it before for 4-5 reps FAST ah well another day

All in all good day some progress on the log and farmers went well

Phill [/quote]

makes me tired just reading all the shit that you put yourself through. great job on the log work. you will be hitting in the 3’s in no time.

great job!! I guess the bicep is almost 100% ??

meat

ME Dead
Pin pulls (a couple of inches below the knees)
135x8
315x6
495x4
675x2
765x1
855x1

front squat to box
135x4
315x4
405x2
495x1
585x1
all of these sucked becuase we used the fat bar. about 405 was hell on the collar bones.

leg press (paused)
12plates x 6
18plats x 6
22plates x 6

leg extensions
stack for 4 sets of 20 as fast as we could do them.

I had to go to the grocery after the gym because the wife is out of town until sunday. i’ve been living off of protein shakes and fruit loops for three days. I got quit a few looks woddling around with pumped thighs. I basically leaned on the car the entire time.

meat

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
ME Dead
Pin pulls (a couple of inches below the knees)
855x1

leg press (paused)
22plates x 6

meat[/quote]

Meat’s not good at sharing plates with others.

Crazy heavy man. Good stuff.

Where do the Fruit Loops fall in the overall nutritional plan? lol.

PIC no man I was moving to damn fast LOL HA

no pretty hard when training alone cant find anyone nutty enough to come back a second time LOL

Phill

[quote]Modi wrote:
Phill wrote:
Man these were going well today the 270 was fast. Got up and roillin with the 290 and just felt the palm peel away dropped it and called it there

Phill

Nice…got pictures?

You’re winning on volume today unless someone else can step up.[/quote]

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

makes me tired just reading all the shit that you put yourself through. great job on the log work. you will be hitting in the 3’s in no time.

great job!! I guess the bicep is almost 100% ??

meat

[/quote]

Ha thanks man I was wore the hell out as well. I dread saturday its the one that really kills me lighter loads but speed endurance etc puke fest LOL

Man I hope so if I can just keep adding 5 here and there itll keep going Up.

Um Bicep. Id say so except on curls crazy damn thing pulls chins rows even the damn log clean and DLing etc No pain at all. Now give me a DB even as light as a 25 and do a strict curl and I have discomfort/pain in the forearm where the drilled and inserted the tendon HMM??

Phill

[quote]Modi wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
ME Dead
Pin pulls (a couple of inches below the knees)
855x1

leg press (paused)
22plates x 6

meat

Meat’s not good at sharing plates with others.

Crazy heavy man. Good stuff.

Where do the Fruit Loops fall in the overall nutritional plan? lol.[/quote]

That aint not shit

damn bro thought that DL was suffering thats a crazy rack pull anmd hell that front squat all of it nice work

Man I hear ya Ive been putting a hurting on the cheerios and corn flakes LOL

Phill

Thursday 07/26/07

ME Bench (sort of, probably RE bench)

Floor press

Bar x 10
Bar + 40# chain x 8
Bar + 80# chain x 8
95 + chains x 5
135 + chains x 5
185 + chains x 5
225 + chains x 3 x 5

DB rows
80x15;100x20(R),100x18(L)

Green band pushdowns
3x12

Lat pulldowns (neutral grip)
2x12

Notes: Training partner had to move training days up (Thursday and Saturday this week), and with family issues (sister, thankfully not wife) becoming a pain in my ass right now, it proved to be a good stress reliever to lift tonight instead of tomorrow. I wanted to hit the floor press but work in the chains as I’ve liked how much better they accommodate resistance on the bench than the bands (which just murder my elbows). I just worked up to 2 plates plus 80 lbs of chain for 3 sets of 5 in order to add a little stress to the lockout. The weight was easy on every set, but since I’m gonna be squatting heavy on Saturday I wanted to keep the intensity reasonable so as to keep my shoulders healthy. Finished the workout off with some light assistance work and called it quits for the night. Good workout - short but productive. Might do some shirt work next since the meet is roughly 6 weeks from now. Gotta get that groove down pat and hit some big weights.