Westside/PLing Training Thread

fuck i love reading this thread…

last night i was happy i lifted a weight never b4 lifted by my good self…now i see this shit and i get deflated haha…

anyway…heres my meagre efforts
for ME squat

bar x 8
95 x 8
135 x 7
185 x 5
230 x 5
255 x 5
280 x 4 PR
285 x 2 PR
275 x 5
225 x 6
155 x 7

then did 4x10 leg curls 125lbs
leg ext 4 x 15 105lbs (left leg extra set 40lbs x 10)

im starting to notice my left leg lagging a bit in size…i do notice that sometimes im pushing more from my right side…any good suggestions on correcting this?

cheers

[quote]JimmyOZ wrote:
fuck i love reading this thread…

last night i was happy i lifted a weight never b4 lifted by my good self…now i see this shit and i get deflated haha…

anyway…heres my meagre efforts
for ME squat

bar x 8
95 x 8
135 x 7
185 x 5
230 x 5
255 x 5
280 x 4 PR
285 x 2 PR
275 x 5
225 x 6
155 x 7

then did 4x10 leg curls 125lbs
leg ext 4 x 15 105lbs (left leg extra set 40lbs x 10)

im starting to notice my left leg lagging a bit in size…i do notice that sometimes im pushing more from my right side…any good suggestions on correcting this?

cheers[/quote]

Hey man, congrats on the PRs. As long as you’re getting better, don’t worry about feeling deflated by anyone else.

And for the difference you were noticing in size between the 2 legs, I’d suggest trying some unilateral work. BB, DB, Cable split squats, lunges, step ups, etc. Start with your weak leg and don’t do any more reps with your stronger side. This should tell you if there is an issue of greater strength between one of the legs and the other. And you can also use it to build up the weaker side.

-MAtt

I have read almost all of the training articles on the Westside site and have put that info to great use. I work full time and am a father of three. I find it hard to come up with enough time in a week to train. The Westside principles have really helped me out. I keep a training log of every day I train.

My best contest lifts to date are

Squat - 190kg
Bench - 130kg
Deadlift - 240kg

I’ve done a 455lbs parallel box squat and have rack pulled 725lbs from my knees up. All this has been done RAW. My philosophy is to lift raw or don’t bother. Check out the blog and please leave some comments.

Snowdaddy

cheers for the advice, on ME DL day, i do split squats as an accessory to my DLing but have noticed that when i do my left, its not as draining than my right (im doing about 100-110 lbs for a 3 x 10) kinda weird…ill add in some lunges and step ups but should i only do my left leg on these or both?? i remember reading something about still doing the same amt of work for both sides but maybe just an extra set for the weak side?? kinda confused…

cheers

[quote]Matgic wrote:
JimmyOZ wrote:
fuck i love reading this thread…

last night i was happy i lifted a weight never b4 lifted by my good self…now i see this shit and i get deflated haha…

anyway…heres my meagre efforts
for ME squat

bar x 8
95 x 8
135 x 7
185 x 5
230 x 5
255 x 5
280 x 4 PR
285 x 2 PR
275 x 5
225 x 6
155 x 7

then did 4x10 leg curls 125lbs
leg ext 4 x 15 105lbs (left leg extra set 40lbs x 10)

im starting to notice my left leg lagging a bit in size…i do notice that sometimes im pushing more from my right side…any good suggestions on correcting this?

cheers

Hey man, congrats on the PRs. As long as you’re getting better, don’t worry about feeling deflated by anyone else.

And for the difference you were noticing in size between the 2 legs, I’d suggest trying some unilateral work. BB, DB, Cable split squats, lunges, step ups, etc. Start with your weak leg and don’t do any more reps with your stronger side. This should tell you if there is an issue of greater strength between one of the legs and the other. And you can also use it to build up the weaker side.

-MAtt
[/quote]

Training log for 6/19/06
ME Bench

Raw Heavy Bench
135x10
135x3
185x5
205x8
225x3
245x3
275x2 PR

3 Board Press
285x2 PR
275x2
275x3

Floor Press
135x10
225x4
185x8
185x8

Decline DB t-ext
1 Arm reverse cable pushdowns
Side Raises
Rear Raises
Face Pulls
Shoulder Horn

Elbows sore did lighter tri work. Left shoulder is feeling better and bench is finally starting to move up.

[quote]JimmyOZ wrote:
cheers for the advice, on ME DL day, i do split squats as an accessory to my DLing but have noticed that when i do my left, its not as draining than my right (im doing about 100-110 lbs for a 3 x 10) kinda weird…ill add in some lunges and step ups but should i only do my left leg on these or both?? i remember reading something about still doing the same amt of work for both sides but maybe just an extra set for the weak side?? kinda confused…

cheers

Matgic wrote:
JimmyOZ wrote:
fuck i love reading this thread…

last night i was happy i lifted a weight never b4 lifted by my good self…now i see this shit and i get deflated haha…

anyway…heres my meagre efforts
for ME squat

bar x 8
95 x 8
135 x 7
185 x 5
230 x 5
255 x 5
280 x 4 PR
285 x 2 PR
275 x 5
225 x 6
155 x 7

then did 4x10 leg curls 125lbs
leg ext 4 x 15 105lbs (left leg extra set 40lbs x 10)

im starting to notice my left leg lagging a bit in size…i do notice that sometimes im pushing more from my right side…any good suggestions on correcting this?

cheers

Hey man, congrats on the PRs. As long as you’re getting better, don’t worry about feeling deflated by anyone else.

And for the difference you were noticing in size between the 2 legs, I’d suggest trying some unilateral work. BB, DB, Cable split squats, lunges, step ups, etc. Start with your weak leg and don’t do any more reps with your stronger side. This should tell you if there is an issue of greater strength between one of the legs and the other. And you can also use it to build up the weaker side.

-MAtt

[/quote]

The key is doing the weaker side first. If 12 reps with a given weight, ROM, and tempo are difficult with the weak leg and then you switch and do it with the stronger leg, it shouldn’t be as much of a challenge. Thus, the weaker leg steps up to the challenge by gaining strength where the stronger leg is not very challenged, so the strength is basically kept the same until both sides are even.

-MAtt

matgic, cheers for that, it makes sense now.

DE squat

buffalo bar

275, 3x2
added chains (70lb/chain), 3x2

GHRs

Bear

Extra Workout

Pulldowns (various grips)
Band Pull Aparts
Tricep Pressdowns
Curls
Lateral Raises
Wrist Roller
Neck Harness

DD

[quote]

I’m focusing on shoulder strength and power off the bottom (by using pause reps) much more now. I’ll probably be using 3-4boards once every 3 weeks now just for maintinance. Thanks for the advice guys!

DD[/quote]

You would really have to use a shirt to see what I mean. It gives you this “tightness” in the shoulders that you cannot get without it. You should really get at least a cheap one from Inzer and play around with it.

Hey great Thread all some real gems here.Keep it up.

I dont want to invade your thread with a non Pure west side log so I am just going to make you all aware of my log. I have taken the step and am now training with a aim a goal to compete.

I have started a log in my blog that well sure pulls many things from west side I have your almost typical ME day twice a week for either upper or lower but a touch different and then have a lighter day that is more akin to a repetition day one for upper and lower much more volume and more exercises.

each exercise is in a rotation that is roughly based on percentage but I find it better to go more for aimed reps and just work your ass off then go for an exact Percentage as the percentages never sem to work out right they are just a rough estimate. anyway the rotation is monthly and each day we’ll say sqaut as example goes 70%/8 reps, 90%/3 reps, 60%/12 reps, 100%/1rm max. Looking to progress each workout nail PR’s etc.

I just find that by rotating the intensity week to week for each excercise, the load, and upping the reps vise versa I can stay fresh keep joint pain etc away and that the reps at a good enough load help with both hypertroghy and strenght.

The exercises also rotate based on weekness, using bands, SSB, manta squats, deficite DL’s, Box Squats, etc. Basics its built on things Ive learned work for me over the years and is in a constant state of transition as I see weekness and attack them in cycles.

Glaring weekness in each lift right now.

Sqaut = about 3-4 inches out of the hole that and a constant battle with the left leg. It was cut off at the age of 7 also severed the main artery shattered the pelvic bone in 17 places so Huge nevre damage there and have to really work on making it fire as much as the other so lots of unilateral work Light just getting it firing. Also low back is now ahead of the ab strength after focusing on it as a wekness kill one and you create a new one. No excuses though with it we all have our shit to work through this is mine hasnt held me back from what I aim to do yet. Great excuse to not run a lot though as that sucker gets to aching. :slight_smile:

Bench = strong in the bottom good speed, fair at lockout, die out in the middle. Also some nagging shoulder and right probs not an issue of late and elbow tendonitis I am having luck keeping under control with the old rubber band trick Brougth the bottom up with Long pause work in the bottom on the chest and now bringing the bands etc in and really hitting that mid to top end as of this week. May do some board presses soon as well.

DL= once again same as squat in the middle nearer the top. about mid thigh. Nailing the RDL’s and GMs hard for this. also just form bar floats out on me sometimes. Going to bring back in some pulls from deficite to get the speed up as well to blast through that weak spot. I pull I would say modified sumo not quit super wide but wider than conventional and arms inside legs. I am forced to from above stated injury history the leg face out at about 45 degree angle so the knee/leg hits the arms if trying to pull conventional

Oh and just because someone will ask I am looking to compete raw. Just what I want to do right now. Not full on against the shirts etc I just want to see how far I can get without it. See how well I can stack up. I really think it should be a non issue between like minded lifters lets just Lift heavy shit.

I am also adding in two competion days 12 weeks apart and and 12 weeks from my projected first meet when I have to fly back to the states next April. These days will be ran by my partner who was/is an accomplished PLer who made elite in two weight classes in the 90’s before an injury while chasing a third and is now on a comeback.

add on that tons of food, thai massage, conditioning, good times, proper supplementation, etc… Ill see how it goes. going good so far

Feel free to give it a gander if you have the chance and tear me up, flame away, give pointer or just shoot the shit. Ill keep checking this thread as well.

Once again keep it up all
Stay strong

Phill

PHil-- are you talking about your thai reporter in the pictures section or something else i porb missed? anyway good to hear from you bro, coming back to DC anytime??

[quote]gags wrote:
PHil-- are you talking about your thai reporter in the pictures section or something else i porb missed? anyway good to hear from you bro, coming back to DC anytime??[/quote]

No its in that newish funtion they added the “My T-Nation” area. figured id use it for something so I started putting my log in it this week usually just save it on my comp. Realized just now its kind of a piain for others to view you have to find a post by me fisrt then click on my name etc. to get to the blogs.

Also just saw that this thread title is Westside/Pling… hey if you all dont mind A lil variety Ill just add it here.

DC hell not sure possible not sure where Ill be doing my meet next April yet. maybe east coast if so ill get a hold of you or if you find your way here look me up.

Phill

ME Upper Body

Close Grip Benchpress (index finges on the smooth part)
20/15 x2 - 40/3 - 60/3 - 70/3 - 80/3 - 85/1 - 90/1 - 95/1(PR) - 97,5/1(PR) -100/X
Conversion: Pressed 215lbs, but failed at 220lbs 2 inches off my chest

Then

DB Press (5?incline, "close grip"full stretch)
27.5er/4 x4 - 27,5er/3 x3 -27,5er/2 x1
Conversion Used 60lbs DBs
Pronated wide Grip Pullups
BW+5/4 x8

omething between a front and a lateral raise
3x10
Face Pull
3x15

Kneeling cable Crunch
4x15
Curls for da Girls
4x5-8

Explanation:

[Weight[/[Reps] x[Sets]

If I don’t give weights(on most accessory movments)
[#Sets]x[Lowest achieved #reps]-#[highest achieved#reps]

Woahhhhh I am fucked up but had a lotta fun :slight_smile:

Bodyweight ~145, 148 with clothes and a lotta food and water in my stomach

OK I see no NO, or Yes to me adding a little variety here so I am going to do so if you all dont want my pling here well then Fark off or just give me a holler and ill remove stop. The next post will be a long one Ill just put the session in that I have since I moved here a week ago and go from there.

Phill

June 16th

OK wasnt planned was going to get off the train and unpack start fresh training monday. BUT hell with it after 13 hour train ride dropped the bags at the new room and hit the gym will unpack settle in now. Heavy DL day not anything special but did get a slight PR 6 plates again but the were 45lb plates not the 20 kilo plate so it was a 12 lb PR. Hey take what they give ya. Had 10-20 left in the tank. Next time.

Day 1 Load ME=100 1RM

  1. Deadlift = bar x ton, 135lbs x 5, 225 x 5, 315 x 5 365 x 2, 405 x 1, 455 x 1, 495 x 1, 545 x 1, 585 x 1 PR was strong even after the trip so I stopped called it a day on the DL. Need to work on grip almost gave.
  2. Front Squat 3-4x6 rest 2 min. load = 225 = 3 sets, 6,6,9
  3. Good Mornings 3-4x6 rest 2 min. load = 315 2 sets x 6, 335 x 6
  4. Step-ups 3-4x6 rest 1 min 95 x 6,6,11 let left (bad) leg be the guide
  5. Pillar Bridges 2-3x60 sec. Rest 60. 2 sets 45 lb plate and partner pushing.

DL PR= 585

this is from the 17th, today is 18th day off

Day 4 Load RE=60 usually 12 rep (Blue Band/DB)

  1. Military Press 60% approx 2 mins rest sets =
    warm ups = Red band x 10, red 10lb x 10, red 15lb x 8
    Work sets = Blue Band x 16, Blue 10lb x 12 x 11/10 (R/L)

  2. Lat Pull Down 60% 1 mins rest sets =
    Warm ups = 55lbs x 20, 85lbs x 10, 100lbs x 10
    Work sets = 130lbs x 12, 145lbs x 12, 160lbs x 14
    Go a bit higher next time

  3. Face Pulls 3x12 rest 1 min
    Sets= 60lbs x 12, 80lbs x 12, 100lbs x 12

  4. External Rotations (cable) 60 sec.rest 20lbs x 12,12,13

5a) Dumbbell Crunch on Ball 3x10 60 sec. Load 40lbs
5b)dips 60 secs rest 2 sets BW x 10, 10

6a)Cable lat raise 20 x 12,12
6b)Cable flys. 60 x 12, 50 x 15

  1. drop set db curls light 25 and down

thats it took about 45-50 mins in and out. Liking the mixing of heavy and light I think it will help keep me going , recovering, staying healthy and HOPEFULLY the weights going up. We’ll see

June 19th

Morning conditioning. (this is new no where near failure and will slowly work up over weeks and months don?t want it to negatively effect training)

Body weight squats x 20
Push ups x 20
Sit-ups x 20

Day 1 Load ME=90% usually 3 rep (manta Ray Safety squat)

  1. Squat .rest = 3 mins
    load= bar x 20, 135 x 10, 225 x 8, 275 x 5 315 x 3, 365 x 3, 405 x 1,1,1,1,1
    WOW!!! Holding the bar up HIGH like this really is a he change made four plates feel like 5 but I think will be a huge help in the long run makes so I wont fold over when I lower the bar back down to the normal position. Shifts that weight forward.

Went for a double on the first set of four plates and got hammered about 3 inches out of the hole had to abort to the pins. Then went for 4 more solid single really had to grind through them had the out of the hole down my weak spot is 4 inch out or so. Will work on that.

  1. RDL’s 4x6 rest 2 min…
    Load 405 x 6, 495 x 5,6,6

  2. Barbell Lunges 4x6 rest 2 min…
    Opted for three sets it was ENOUGH. Load 75 x 6,6,6

4a) Glute-Hams (or Back Extension) 4x6 rest 90 sec.
Had to figure out the right wieght 60 x 6, 80 x 6, 100 x 6,6 Last one tough

4b) Hanging Leg Raises 4x10 60 sec. BW.

  1. calfs 3 x 8-12 load 90lbs.

  2. crunches to B/O didn?t do them

Tonight will aim to do my darn stretching

All in all good session the High bar manta squats were an eye opener but good and took the load off the shoulders for a day.

Cal (training partner) today was more of a hindrance than help. Have to work on that if it continues.His lack focus today effected me.

June 20th

Day 2 of conditioning
20 BW squats
20 push ups
20 sit ups

Going to the gym early (7:30) Cal has top catch a flight to BK.

Day 2 Load 1 RE=60% 12rm (DB or dbl blue bands)

  1. Bench Press
    2 mins rest
    Bar x 20, 95 x 12, 135 x 12, Dbl Blue Bands (& bar) x 12, Dbl Blues 95lbs x 12, Dbl Blues 135lbs x 9,8,5

(ok was a while since I used my band just got them shipped here from the states. Nice change of pace. took a bit to work out the poundages but ended ok a bit heavy but hell its all good was stil in the 9’s and 8’s two of the sets and real had to grind out that last few inches of those last reps. I am guessing it was around 335lbs at lockout due to the fact with the bands doubled over aroun d 100lb DBs they were just bouncing off the ground at lockout, had to change to the 110lb DB’s.)

  1. incline press
    rest 2 min…
    50 x 12, 60 x 9, 9, 9

  2. Chest supported band&BB Rows
    2 mins rest
    Blue Band x 15,9,8

4A) Barbell or EZ Bar Curls
rest 60 sec.
Bar 50 x 12, Bar 60 x 10, 10

4B)Tate Press (DB?s)
60 secs. Rest
25lbs x 20, 35 x 12, 13

  1. Cable Woodchoppers
    rest 60 sec.
    100 x 12, 120 x 12, 140 x 12

6A)Cbl Pullovers
1min rest
90 x 12, 100 x 12,10

6B)Rope Pdown
1min rest
100 x 12, 120 x 9,7

7)Run rack on Bi?s (Light)
25lbs and down

Crunches = 35

Good work out the bands made the mid range to lock out killer doubled over there was a TON of tension really had to grind the end out. Just over 1 hour. Then went and ate a horse.

LATE ADDITION!!! Everything went to hell in a hand basket 1.5 hours after my WONDERFUL post w/o whole food meal. It was/is flying out both ends if you here me. Think its official. Food poisoning. Had it twice before crippling stomach pain etc. Prob was I was having a heck of a time getting it to come up Just rolling in agony for a few hours drinking water getting bloated but nothing. I know from the past I have to flush the system out to get to feeling better so Hey. Why not. Im going to lose everything I take in so Cheat day. Went and got the richest Ice cream and cookies I could find and that did it. POWER PURGE form both ends. See that crap food is good for something.

Thats it sprints or something tomorrow if Im up to it.

June 21st

conditioning
20 BW squats
20 push ups
20 sit ups

Well lost just about 20lbs of scale weight from yesterday noon to this morn. NOT good. Major loss of fluid and everything else. Loaded up this morn still not feeling 100%. Decided to skip the sprints but felt I needed to get a little active, sweat out the last of this. Went to the darn gerbil wheel in the gym. Picked the elliptical and cranked up the resistance and did about 40 mins threw some moderate Intervals in.

Went and did the massage thing still not feeling 100% drained aching etc. But things are staying down sort of. Need to find a better masseuse. This guy was not near as good as my last gal. He didn?t have the strength or seemingly the knowhow. Ill be searching for one.

Oh and got the info on a place for stair sprints Ill go check out for next time sounds to be more brutal then my others.

That’s it just going to rest a bit and recover.

June 21st Part II

Just had to rant a bit. Dat three of this stretching shit and its for the damn birds shit is painful. Id rather rest a supermaximal DL load on my face. Damn shit sucks but is needed. Not an over abundance dont want to lose the stretch relfex but 5 mins a night or so should help in the long run along with the massage and streching they do to me.

Note two. foods going better im about 75-80% now its only taking a quick exit from one end now :slight_smile: Im packing down the food and liquids as before at least.

June 22h

conditioning
20 BW squats
20 push ups
20 sit ups

Off day went to Doi Suthep fopr both fun and to see if possible stair spint place HELL no 316 steps on top of a mountian ill be damned it was a nice climb let alone sprint may just go for the tire flipping draggin Muay Thai etc on Wednesdays will see The head Thai guy really wants me to fight may try it out once a week on Wednesdays we were talking about it today

Checked the scale down more 109.3kg/240+lbs. Upping the intake my weight is going the wrong way but strenght inst at least so not drastic increase 400-500. Strength and recovery should be even beter if I can start slowly gaining.

Oh except today got off the scale pissed so had some kind of Thai pork that id say was 70% fat damn good though and a few weeds (veggie of some sort) then a croissant with icing, a Big HUGE almond coffee roll and large chocolate something a rather (in thai) Dairy queen blizzard. That?ll help.

that?s it just tons of running round on the bike got riders ass going to hit the sack and get at it in the morn.

Phill

Wendsday 6/21
ME squat/dlft

I’ve added a couple of pictures from the workout.
One of my last set of deads at 585 for 5 reps and squat at 585 for 5 reps

The workout-
sumo dead
135x10
225x5
315x5
405x5
495x5
585x5

squat
135x10
225x5
315x5
405x5
495x5
585x5

I decided to switch it up and use the “most effective” piece of equipment in the gym-- the smith machine

close stance squats on smith machine
225x15
225x30
225x45

leg extensions
stack x10
stack x15
stack x20

meat

June 23rd

Conditioning (morning at wake up)
20 BW squats
20 pushups
20 situps

Day 1 Load 1 RE=70% approx or 8 rep. with dbl wrapped, double over blues bands

  1. Deadlift 2 mins rest load work up to approx 8 rep max
    sets = all with dbl wrapped dbl over blue bands. Bar x 20, 135 x 10 225 x 8, 275 x 5, 315 x 5, 405 x 5 ( bit high that took everything), 365 x 8,8,8

Damn nice was fast on the bottom and the tension really kicked in right about my sticking point just above the knee.

  1. Front Squat 3x8 rest 2 min.
    bar x 8, 135 x 8, 185 x 8,8,13

  2. Good Mornings 3x8 rest 2 min.
    225 x 8,8,13

  3. Step-ups 3x8 rest 1 min, let left be the guide
    70 x 8,8,8

5A) Pillar Bridges Rest 60.
Load 45 lb plate on back feet elevated. 2 x max hold.

5B)calfs on leg press
didnt feel like grabbing more plates so just did high rep. Started with single leg one at time and then ended with both, 3 sets load 270

6)Pull throughs 3 sets
120 x 8, 140 x 8, 160 x 9

7)Leg press LOW or other 2-3 sets
This was more of a hip stretch them anything did three sets varied stance form narrow to mid to wide. 5 reps, Long pause as deep as the weight would push me. Then explode Load 270

  1. Crunches to B/O
    Until I cramped up.

Went well felt damn good grip held strong through all the reps of DL last one I paused at the top until grip was SHOT.

Slammed some water and two yoghurts form the 7-11 to tide me over while I ran real quick to the store etc then ate it up, 4 eggs, bacon, potatoes and onion, toast, can of tuna, various fruits, and a green tea.

Feelin good

DE Lower

Boxsquat +Mini Band
110lbs/2 x10

Video: Boxssquat 23.06.06 - YouTube
I’s appreciate any feedback on form :slight_smile:

Leg Extension
2x20
Pullthru Plate Swing
2x40

Stretching