[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
When do you get the cast off? sounds like you are staying on track though. If I was in the same situation I would probably only be doing 12oz curls.
you are a better man than I…
meat
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this one, 3 weeks from tomorrow just to get a splint from what im told
Thanks for the props bro if i couldnt at least do what i am it drive me 100% insane cant even write my damn name lol
Phill
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
ME lower- everything was done with belt only
deficit pulls (sumo)- don’t know about weight, so its just # of 35’s
2x5
4x3
6x3
8x3
10x3
12x3
14x3
16x3x3
squats - shoulder width stance
135x5
225x3
315x3
405x3
495x3
585x3x3x3
seated military- started with the bar resting on supports at the top of the chest. each rep was started from there.
135x5
225x5
315x5x5
meat[/quote]
Damn bro great w/o that seated military is insane let alone the squat and dl
Phill
[quote]gags wrote:
i have decided to post only pr’s for myself for a lil while…dont know why…but thats what i decided…anyway
LB
squat–hit 356 and 385 PR’s…done fairly wide
deads-- hit 380 for 10…also done wider than usual, shoulder width
anyone have a clue why my fing left hip flexor hurts like hell when doing oly squats…[/quote]
Not 100% sure but could be the different stimulus and greater ROM. I get the same from leg pressing not just DOMs from it but some serious soreness.
How often do you ol style
Phill
[quote]Matt McGorry wrote:
Like you, I’m going to have to wait a little bit to determine where I’m at. I like the idea of hitting 800 here at the least.
I’m taking my tapering suggestions from some much more knowledgeable than myself.
I’ll test my conventional deadlift three weeks out and that will be my last heavy pull, everything after being speed pulls and nothing above 75%.
Last heavy bench will be 12-14 days out with singles only. I’ll try to work up to something difficult, but not at the risk of missing a lift. Then 6-7 days out, I’ll get in some speed work with 135.
I’m also going to consider Reape’s article,
http://www.T-Nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-141-training
-Matt[/quote]
Matt,
Good article. Also, it sounds like you’ve got a pro in your corner!
My last heavy bench workout will be 11 days before the meet (on a Wed.), the following Wed. will be drilling the commands, especially the Rack command, into my head. Probably nothing over 275 (75%) for a couple of singles.
As far as deads go, I will go heavy up to two weeks out (15 days). Then 8 days out, I will work up to a reasonable weight, maybe 475 for a single, if I’m going to shoot for a 550 on the day of the meet. Friday is my DL day, so pulling on a Saturday shouldn’t be too much of a transition for my body.
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
sounds like you guys have it figured out. It makes my approach to training seem special ed.
good job!!
meat
[/quote]
Meat,
Maybe shortbus is the way to go. Seems like you do ok with that approach!
[quote]Modi wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
sounds like you guys have it figured out. It makes my approach to training seem special ed.
good job!!
meat
Meat,
Maybe shortbus is the way to go. Seems like you do ok with that approach![/quote]
maybe so… the highly planned out training makes my brain hurt.
meat
4.12.06 Bench Assistance
A. Military Press:
bar x 12, 95 x 5, 135 x 4
185 x 4, 200 x 4, 200 x 3 (not strong on these today), 135 x 8
B1) Close Grip Bench:225 x 4, 235 x 4, 245 x 4, 225 x 6
B2) CG Cable Row: 180 x 10, 220 x 6, 8
Face Pull: 70 x 10, 90 x 10
French Press: 70 x 10, 90 x 8
EZ Curl: 70 x 8, 90 x 6
stay strong
-boom
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
Modi wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
sounds like you guys have it figured out. It makes my approach to training seem special ed.
good job!!
meat
Meat,
Maybe shortbus is the way to go. Seems like you do ok with that approach!
maybe so… the highly planned out training makes my brain hurt.
meat
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Hahaha, exactally. I had to write it all down as a chart and then transfer it to a calender.
Of course everyones going to be a bit different, so we’ll see how this works for me. I was planning on lifting with more volume closer to the meet, but I’m going to bite my tongue and give this a go.
-Matt
04/13/07 - Deadlift (ME)
A) Deadlift
135x10 (speed)
225x6
315x5
405x2
455x2
475x1
495x1
515x1
B) Seated Hamstring Curl
130x10
150x8
150x8
C) Seated Row
100x10
150x10
160x8
170x8
Felt good today, made it to the gym before going to the dentist, which is a plus. Felt like I’d probably bite my tongue off if I needed any work and had any novacaine!! Just needed to see how 500 felt on deadlift before next week’s deload. Really looking forward to pulling heavy again.
[quote]Modi wrote:
04/13/07 - Deadlift (ME)
A) Deadlift
135x10 (speed)
225x6
315x5
405x2
455x2
475x1
495x1
515x1
B) Seated Hamstring Curl
130x10
150x8
150x8
C) Seated Row
100x10
150x10
160x8
170x8
Felt good today, made it to the gym before going to the dentist, which is a plus. Felt like I’d probably bite my tongue off if I needed any work and had any novacaine!! Just needed to see how 500 felt on deadlift before next week’s deload. Really looking forward to pulling heavy again.[/quote]
great job on the pull!! you’ve made a lot of progress. do you pull conventional or sumo?
meat
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
great job on the pull!! you’ve made a lot of progress. do you pull conventional or sumo?
meat[/quote]
Thanks, I didn’t really bust my balls today. It was my first time lifting heavy since 5x5’s, and just wanted to get used to the heavier weights. Also didn’t bring my ipod so I was listening to the gym’s fluff music. Not very inspiring.
I lift conventional. I’ve never tried sumo, but I might give it a try at some point to see if it’s better for me. I used to squat very narrow, so I figured the conventional dead was more suited to me…I’ve widened my squat stance, so it might be interesting.
I definitely use a lot of back when I get into the heavier weights. I keep thinking ass down, head up, ass down, head up, and as soon as I touch the bar…ass up, pull with back, ass up, pull with back.
What do you think? Weak glutes or weak hammies?
4/13/07- Friday- Bench Assistance
A)Neutral Grip DB Bench
(80x5 90x3) 100x6 x6 x6
B1)Three Point DB Row
(105x5) 125x5 x5 x5
B2)Neutral Grip DB Shoulder Press (seated)
(55x5) 70x6 75x6 x6
C)Wide Grip Pullup
BW+25x8 x7
D1)Seated Twisting Curl
55x3 45x5
D2)Band Pushdown
lightx25 x25 x25
Notes: Kept volume pretty minimal today. A bit tired from last nights celebrations.
Gonna order a singlet online right now.
Just recieved my Lift Strong CD, so it’s unlikely that I’ll get anything done ever.
-Matt
[quote]Modi wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
great job on the pull!! you’ve made a lot of progress. do you pull conventional or sumo?
meat
Thanks, I didn’t really bust my balls today. It was my first time lifting heavy since 5x5’s, and just wanted to get used to the heavier weights. Also didn’t bring my ipod so I was listening to the gym’s fluff music. Not very inspiring.
I lift conventional. I’ve never tried sumo, but I might give it a try at some point to see if it’s better for me. I used to squat very narrow, so I figured the conventional dead was more suited to me…I’ve widened my squat stance, so it might be interesting.
I definitely use a lot of back when I get into the heavier weights. I keep thinking ass down, head up, ass down, head up, and as soon as I touch the bar…ass up, pull with back, ass up, pull with back.
What do you think? Weak glutes or weak hammies?[/quote]
I have read a lot about deadlift form and many top powerlifters pull that way. If it works and you don’t feel uncomfortable, keep doing it. I think too much emphasis is placed on getting the ass too low. I always get a kick out of hearing some of the critiques from internet trolls who read somewhere that you have to do things a certain way.
The more I read, the more I realize that it all depends on what works for the individual. there are definitely some things that are big no no’s but the ass down thing isn’t one of them. The only time i would say it is bad is if you initially start with the ass down and then as you start to pull the ass comes up.
keep doin what ur doin…
meat
DE/RE Bench
Split Jerk
135x3
185x3
205x1
225x1
245x1 PR
245 was kind of sloppy, but no pressing out.
DB Bench
50x10
75x10
100x5
120x10 PR
100x12
DB Row
50x8
75x8
145x7/4
I had to use just way too much cheat for the 145s, so I stopped.
Seated Cable Row
165x10
180x10
195x10
Curls
3 sets
Next week is a shoulder savers week. No push presses or jerks, no full range bench, and nothing really explosive. I need to work on my biceps a bit becaue I get a little pain lowering stuff from overhead. The catch in the jerk doens’t help much either.
I’m wary of Phill’s bicep tendon tear, so I’m going to try hard to strengthen whatever it takes.
Good luck to Meat, Matt, and Modi in their comps.
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
I have read a lot about deadlift form and many top powerlifters pull that way. If it works and you don’t feel uncomfortable, keep doing it. I think too much emphasis is placed on getting the ass too low. I always get a kick out of hearing some of the critiques from internet trolls who read somewhere that you have to do things a certain way.
The more I read, the more I realize that it all depends on what works for the individual. there are definitely some things that are big no no’s but the ass down thing isn’t one of them. The only time i would say it is bad is if you initially start with the ass down and then as you start to pull the ass comes up.
keep doin what ur doin…
meat
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Meat…and others. Check out the video below if you get a chance, and let me know what you think. This is 475 at my last meet. I hit 525 on my next attempt, but only got part of it on video.
I feel strong like this, but also feel like my ass comes up too quickly. If I’m wrong, that’s great. If not, I’m open to suggestions.
[quote]Modi wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
I have read a lot about deadlift form and many top powerlifters pull that way. If it works and you don’t feel uncomfortable, keep doing it. I think too much emphasis is placed on getting the ass too low. I always get a kick out of hearing some of the critiques from internet trolls who read somewhere that you have to do things a certain way.
The more I read, the more I realize that it all depends on what works for the individual. there are definitely some things that are big no no’s but the ass down thing isn’t one of them. The only time i would say it is bad is if you initially start with the ass down and then as you start to pull the ass comes up.
keep doin what ur doin…
meat
Meat…and others. Check out the video below if you get a chance, and let me know what you think. This is 475 at my last meet. I hit 525 on my next attempt, but only got part of it on video.
I feel strong like this, but also feel like my ass comes up too quickly. If I’m wrong, that’s great. If not, I’m open to suggestions.
I think for your build and lower back strength it suits you. I wouldn’t change it. I thought it was a good, solid lift. In my opinion, I wouldn’t change a thing. I’ve seen even more lower back involvement from some top lifters. If it works, go with it.
meat
For what its worth I agree with meat 100% and ive mainly pulled sumo due to injury that makes my leg get in the way while pulling con. even after making the change for strongman due to my build strong low back even with the leg in the way and not pulling conventional in literally a yeat at the least was able to get my pull up to par and pass my sumo pull in less then a month i was hitting 600+ and 500 x 10 not record breaking but just it suits me even though the logic writing etc says i should be a sumo puller
keep at it if it works for you and that pull was fast you had a ton in the tank
side note no training today walked the beaches for several hours, then damn good grub and company. Later drinks, cards etc. ill say the dealer in the A-Dog this week. The picks do her no justice and hell even won me a few$$$$
Im aiming to train tomorrow then we may go visit bubbles whom you would also know from previous a-dogs which is always a good time 
So needless to say im getting some much needed R&R
Phill
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
Modi wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
I have read a lot about deadlift form and many top powerlifters pull that way. If it works and you don’t feel uncomfortable, keep doing it. I think too much emphasis is placed on getting the ass too low. I always get a kick out of hearing some of the critiques from internet trolls who read somewhere that you have to do things a certain way.
The more I read, the more I realize that it all depends on what works for the individual. there are definitely some things that are big no no’s but the ass down thing isn’t one of them. The only time i would say it is bad is if you initially start with the ass down and then as you start to pull the ass comes up.
keep doin what ur doin…
meat
Meat…and others. Check out the video below if you get a chance, and let me know what you think. This is 475 at my last meet. I hit 525 on my next attempt, but only got part of it on video.
I feel strong like this, but also feel like my ass comes up too quickly. If I’m wrong, that’s great. If not, I’m open to suggestions.
I think for your build and lower back strength it suits you. I wouldn’t change it. I thought it was a good, solid lift. In my opinion, I wouldn’t change a thing. I’ve seen even more lower back involvement from some top lifters. If it works, go with it.
meat
[/quote]
[quote]ExNole wrote:
DE/RE Bench
Split Jerk
135x3
185x3
205x1
225x1
245x1 PR
245 was kind of sloppy, but no pressing out.
DB Bench
50x10
75x10
100x5
120x10 PR
100x12
DB Row
50x8
75x8
145x7/4
I had to use just way too much cheat for the 145s, so I stopped.
Seated Cable Row
165x10
180x10
195x10
Curls
3 sets
Next week is a shoulder savers week. No push presses or jerks, no full range bench, and nothing really explosive. I need to work on my biceps a bit becaue I get a little pain lowering stuff from overhead. The catch in the jerk doens’t help much either.
I’m wary of Phill’s bicep tendon tear, so I’m going to try hard to strengthen whatever it takes.
Good luck to Meat, Matt, and Modi in their comps. [/quote]
Good call on the being wary. call me nutty, but i really think lack of direct arm work, non explosive etc aided the injury happening. i think had i isolated more bit higher rep and controlled to build the tendons etc id be healthy today. Tough call as i really thought it was tendonitis not weak tendons
Phill
[quote]Phill wrote:
For what its worth I agree with meat 100% and ive mainly pulled sumo due to injury that makes my leg get in the way while pulling con. even after making the change for strongman due to my build strong low back even with the leg in the way and not pulling conventional in literally a yeat at the least was able to get my pull up to par and pass my sumo pull in less then a month i was hitting 600+ and 500 x 10 not record breaking but just it suits me even though the logic writing etc says i should be a sumo puller
keep at it if it works for you and that pull was fast you had a ton in the tank
side note no training today walked the beaches for several hours, then damn good grub and company. Later drinks, cards etc. ill say the dealer in the A-Dog this week. The picks do her no justice and hell even won me a few$$$$
Im aiming to train tomorrow then we may go visit bubbles whom you would also know from previous a-dogs which is always a good time
So needless to say im getting some much needed R&R
Phill
[/quote]
All i can say is… You lucky bastard.
I really hope you are playing the “I’m injured, give me some luv’n” card.
meat
Hey guys, I started a wave training advice thread, but no responses so far so I figured I’d ask you all. I am trying to set up a 3 week on, 1 week off wave cycle. Here is my thread: http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1530329
If any of you have any advice on how to set this up, it would be greatly appreciated.