Westside/PLing Training Thread

[quote]Phill wrote:
Events March 11th 07

Notes: UM OK, good, and well bad day. Only 3.5 hours sleep then hit the road., was a short session pressed for time about an hour and half total, had pain early in the elbow again, hit a few Prs and did well OK solid w/I then ended my day with yet another injury not sure where its going to go at this point the healing process but it aint the end.

  1. Log Clean & Push Press 10?
    Worked up to a PR
    235 x 1 that?s about it
    OK so had darn elbow pain starting early around 150 lbs. Ive been stopping the cleans at 205 or so due to this but needed to be able to clean this for Iowa so pressed on. Missed the first clean juts HURT. I wanted it so just grabbed the darn thing quit thinking and popped it up there didn?t feel good wasn?t pretty but got it done and had one sorry lil press. Positive I got it cleaned and no shoulder pain. Negative only One friggin rep and Horrid elbow/forearm pain. But it?s a Log PR ill take that and run for today

2)Trap bar machine DL
Some warm ups
502 x 10 (easy some left)
600 x 3
Nothing to complain about here, was nice to get my hand on what we?ll be using in the comp. it?s a MUCH longer pull then I thought its only and inch or two from a full pull I thought it was more a partial. Nailed those 502 x 10 easy and fast and called it. Then figured id try 600 I was warm, got it for 3. So happy with this and surprised at how far the pull is Im sure O got that 600 conventional DL in me now

  1. farmers
    Ive only touched these once wanted to try them I did these alone during rest periods of the DL
    Just went up to 210 and did it for 50 feet twice 100 feet once with a u turn every 25.
    This was nice to get my hands on and now know Ill be able to handle the load at Iowa may not be Fast but I know I can do it. Oh and turns suck ; )

3)Kegs
200, 225, 250, 300
Went well for doing these right after the DLing and farmers did this 3 times I think maybe four but I thin three. I need to get faster but went well, MUCH arm/elbow pain but went OK

  1. stones and the injury
    I wanted to try them ive never loaded on so
    175 easy this thing flew up as it should
    240 grabbed that sucker arm still hurting and POP, load noise and all the sudden NO pain. Everyone thought I tore my short NOPE inside bicep tendon SNAPPED. That?s whats been hurting LOL so well Bi Bicep is now a unicep with the inner head being well its just hanging on for the ride flex and its Bunched up high But hey No pain have some nice bruising LOL

So that said just another speed bump on the way. Ill prob go get it checked out tomorrow the tendonm is clearly not attached its just Not there when I felx and you can see and feel the other side. Ill see what is said at the doca and how lifting feels this week and may just hold it out and prove that the bicep is an over rated muscle, im a strong man not a Bber, go do these darn things Bi or no bi

Real bugger/downer being only three weeks from the meet but hey just went and lifted some 60 lb bags of mortar for work around the house and have to say arm hasn?t felt this good in some time may only have on muscle belly attached but this No pain stuff is nice

Time for some food sleep and see what comes of this.

Thanks Ben for having us Out, Bobby for taking the trip with me bringing his DL machine and well being the bright spot with my injury constantly insuring me ?Your Done? ?Your Not Doing Iowa? THANKS BOBBY LOL him saying that may have been the sealing deal that I will do this meet : )

Stay strong all ill do the same

Phill[/quote]

Sorry man, I hope you have a fast recovery.

ME Squat/Dead

Warmup

Conventional Deadlift
135x5
225x3
315x3
405x1
500x1 PR Smoked it.
515x1 PR!!

515 was a fight, but I think I have at least anothe 10lbs if I’m fresher. I’m officially stronger conventional again. My lockout problem is still there, but it’s improved dramatically.

Front Squat
135x3
185x3
225x2
255x1
275x1

275 ties my PR. It was under parallel, but wasn’t sunk full squat deep. Oh well.

EDIT: Forgot the rows:
Cable Row
120x15
180x10
240x3
180x10

Back Extension
Reps

Pull down abs

Straight Leg Situps

Crazy stuff today.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
Phil,
if you have to rip a muscle… the bicep is the one to do for strongman and powerlifting. I know a guy that completely tore his bicep and he’s the strongest that he’s ever been. You will rebound from it. you have a will of steal…

definitely see the doctor though. that doesn’t mean you have to listen to him…

what does not kill you makes you stronger!!

meat

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Thanks bro yhea I was upset for about 2.5 minutes with the talk well your done not doing Iowa and well since then Im pretty damn determined Ill not only do the damn thing but well. Its not the muscle but the tendon that attaches it down at the elbow so the whole of the muscle belly just pulled up my arm and well it doesnt aid in pulling the forearm at all

Im in no pain first time literally in years I must have had not tendinitis but a small tears and it finally snapped. It sounded pretty damn cool as well. Going to see a doc general opinion and see what training feels like this week. make a decision but from me just hours after lugging bags of morter etc I think Ill be doing these and address possible surgery after july 15th the last meet

as far as Im concerned really from what it feels like Ill be stronger at this point on some thing what has held me back was the splitting pain, and thats gone it seems. I wasnt able to recruit that head of the Bicep anyway so heck I dont know little early but like you said what doesnt kill us makes us stronger and I can still squat, DL, seemingly press and its the same side as the shoulder if worse come to worse keep getting the lower body crazy strong and the left side let it carry me as far as it can.

Or get surgery sit it out, get all svelty and ripped for now LOL oil up and pose and come back strong once healed

Thanks bro

Phill

[quote]ExNole wrote:
ME Squat/Dead

Warmup

Conventional Deadlift
135x5
225x3
315x3
405x1
500x1 PR Smoked it.
515x1 PR!!

515 was a fight, but I think I have at least anothe 10lbs if I’m fresher. I’m officially stronger conventional again. My lockout problem is still there, but it’s improved dramatically.

Front Squat
135x3
185x3
225x2
255x1
275x1

275 ties my PR. It was under parallel, but wasn’t sunk full squat deep. Oh well.

EDIT: Forgot the rows:
Cable Row
120x15
180x10
240x3
180x10

Back Extension
Reps

Pull down abs

Straight Leg Situps

Crazy stuff today. [/quote]

DAMN fine PRs Bro keep it up

Phill

Get better Phill! I hope whatever you decide to do you make a speedy recovery and get back to your crazy ass training ASAP. Good luck buddy.

[quote]Phill wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
Phil,
if you have to rip a muscle… the bicep is the one to do for strongman and powerlifting. I know a guy that completely tore his bicep and he’s the strongest that he’s ever been. You will rebound from it. you have a will of steal…

definitely see the doctor though. that doesn’t mean you have to listen to him…

what does not kill you makes you stronger!!

meat

Thanks bro yhea I was upset for about 2.5 minutes with the talk well your done not doing Iowa and well since then Im pretty damn determined Ill not only do the damn thing but well. Its not the muscle but the tendon that attaches it down at the elbow so the whole of the muscle belly just pulled up my arm and well it doesnt aid in pulling the forearm at all

Im in no pain first time literally in years I must have had not tendinitis but a small tears and it finally snapped. It sounded pretty damn cool as well. Going to see a doc general opinion and see what training feels like this week. make a decision but from me just hours after lugging bags of morter etc I think Ill be doing these and address possible surgery after july 15th the last meet

as far as Im concerned really from what it feels like Ill be stronger at this point on some thing what has held me back was the splitting pain, and thats gone it seems. I wasnt able to recruit that head of the Bicep anyway so heck I dont know little early but like you said what doesnt kill us makes us stronger and I can still squat, DL, seemingly press and its the same side as the shoulder if worse come to worse keep getting the lower body crazy strong and the left side let it carry me as far as it can.

Or get surgery sit it out, get all svelty and ripped for now LOL oil up and pose and come back strong once healed

Thanks bro

Phill

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Phil,
Just rub some dirt on it and keep going. we are not supposed to be pretty or “aesthetic”. we will leave that to the bodybuilders.

meat

Shit, Phill. I’m sorry to hear about that. Hope everything works out well and you heal up quickly!

-Matt

Thanks again guys

as of now I know its a total tear of the distal tendon I have an appt for a sports ortho wednesday and I suppose will know more then and tomorrow after a workout. Did some OH pressing etc last night and felt good weak as hell on the clean part but no pain LOL

Hell the cost here it may be worth me packing up going to friggin Thailand again pay them 1./8th the amount for surgery if needed and have a nice little vacation as well

from what i gather many ppl dont do a thing about it and keep going. sure makes My already pity full arm look down right infantile

Ha injury bring out the vocabulary

stay strong,
Phill

[quote]Phill wrote:
Thanks again guys

as of now I know its a total tear of the distal tendon I have an appt for a sports ortho wednesday and I suppose will know more then and tomorrow after a workout. Did some OH pressing etc last night and felt good weak as hell on the clean part but no pain LOL

Hell the cost here it may be worth me packing up going to friggin Thailand again pay them 1./8th the amount for surgery if needed and have a nice little vacation as well

from what i gather many ppl dont do a thing about it and keep going. sure makes My already pity full arm look down right infantile

Ha injury bring out the vocabulary

stay strong,
Phill

[/quote]

I wish you the best man.

3/12/07- Monday- ME Bench Press

A)Close Grip Bench (pinkies on rings)
135x5
185x3
225x1
255x1
275x1 (PR-mainly cause I haven’t done then in a long while)
285xMISS
245x3
245x3
245x3

B1)Close Grip Pullups (prone grip)
(BWx5) +50x5 +60x4 x4 +50x5

B2)Close Grip Incline Bench
205x5 x5

C1)Seated DB Lateral Raise
40x12 45x10 40x12

C2)Seated Wide Neutral Grip Cable Rows
180x8 x8 x9

C3)Band Pressdown
lightx25 x30

Notes: For going to bed at 6AM, I felt pretty good today.

I think I could have gotten up the 285, but the elbows felt flared and I really didn’t want to struggle too much because I worried about my shoulder.

The 245x3 sets were easy as balls. Probably could have done another 1 or 2 sets of triples with that weight, but decided not to push it. I’ll probably tackle the close grip benches again next week, but maybe hit a max triple and then some backoff triples.

Decided to cut it short on the close grip inclines since I did a lot on the ME movement.

I buzzed my head today in honor of my new war upon the weights. I am summoning the power of baddassery. :stuck_out_tongue:

-Matt

[quote]Matt McGorry wrote:
3/12/07- Monday- ME Bench Press

A)Close Grip Bench (pinkies on rings)
135x5
185x3
225x1
255x1
275x1 (PR-mainly cause I haven’t done then in a long while)
285xMISS
245x3
245x3
245x3

B1)Close Grip Pullups (prone grip)
(BWx5) +50x5 +60x4 x4 +50x5

B2)Close Grip Incline Bench
205x5 x5

C1)Seated DB Lateral Raise
40x12 45x10 40x12

C2)Seated Wide Neutral Grip Cable Rows
180x8 x8 x9

C3)Band Pressdown
lightx25 x30

Notes: For going to bed at 6AM, I felt pretty good today.

I think I could have gotten up the 285, but the elbows felt flared and I really didn’t want to struggle too much because I worried about my shoulder.

The 245x3 sets were easy as balls. Probably could have done another 1 or 2 sets of triples with that weight, but decided not to push it. I’ll probably tackle the close grip benches again next week, but maybe hit a max triple and then some backoff triples.

Decided to cut it short on the close grip inclines since I did a lot on the ME movement.

I buzzed my head today in honor of my new war upon the weights. I am summoning the power of baddassery. :stuck_out_tongue:

-Matt[/quote]

Good job man, keep it up.

[quote]Phill wrote:
Thanks again guys

as of now I know its a total tear of the distal tendon I have an appt for a sports ortho wednesday and I suppose will know more then and tomorrow after a workout. Did some OH pressing etc last night and felt good weak as hell on the clean part but no pain LOL

Hell the cost here it may be worth me packing up going to friggin Thailand again pay them 1./8th the amount for surgery if needed and have a nice little vacation as well

from what i gather many ppl dont do a thing about it and keep going. sure makes My already pity full arm look down right infantile

Ha injury bring out the vocabulary

stay strong,
Phill

[/quote]

definitely get the surgery. the longer you wait to pull that muscle back into place the longer the recovery. You will definitely recover fully. think of it this way- most people never push themselves as hard as you do. Injuries are inevitable. It’s what you do afterwards that really makes the difference. I know it will just be a bump in the road for you.

meat

ME squat/dead
The guy that trains with me is doing the same meet that I’m doing but he will be doing the full meet. Tonight we tested his raw dead so I decided to put my Inzer briefs on and see what I could pull with them. It was a good pull…

sumo
135x5
225x3
315x2
405x1
495x1
585x1
675x1
705x1

I decided to throw a new twist in to my front squat by doing them onto a box. I like them a lot. I will definitely do them again.

Front squat box squats (just below parallel)

135x4
225x4
315x4
405x3
495x3
545x2
585x nope I should have skipped 545 and gone to 585.
405x4 (these were about 4 inches below parallel)

calves

that’s it.

meat

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
ME squat/dead
The guy that trains with me is doing the same meet that I’m doing but he will be doing the full meet. Tonight we tested his raw dead so I decided to put my Inzer briefs on and see what I could pull with them. It was a good pull…

sumo
135x5
225x3
315x2
405x1
495x1
585x1
675x1
705x1

I decided to throw a new twist in to my front squat by doing them onto a box. I like them a lot. I will definitely do them again.

Front squat box squats (just below parallel)

135x4
225x4
315x4
405x3
495x3
545x2
585x nope I should have skipped 545 and gone to 585.
405x4 (these were about 4 inches below parallel)

calves

that’s it.

meat[/quote]

“calves” is that your weak attempt at lifting for vanity LOL

fucking great w/o bro keep it up

Phill

M.E Upper
3/12/07

Determined to get some good shirt work in after some raw board presses

warmups then worked off 2 board

405x3, 430x3, 445x2, 455x1, 465x1, 480 miss

Shirt on…
495x2 2 board warmup

565x1/2 board
565 to chest successful…finally got a weight to touch successfully
I smoked it up to about 1"from lockout then fought through it and got it

My shirt was about as high as I would ever do, and the sleeves are too big and need tightenedup a bit, but I am sure 600 will fall at my meet, just need to have a few more good shirt workouts

One arm dumbell rows 2x12 and then 10 with 145lb db

KB tricep extensions 3x10 with 50’s…I like these a lot

Meat, I sure hope you plan on doing a full meet with the kind of numbers you have…nice dead

3-12-07

ME Bench
Warmups, Pushdowns with tubing 3 x 25

2 Board Press (Ring fingers on rings)
135 x 5
175 x 5
205 x 3
Added Boards
235 x 3
265 x 3 (last rep was excruciating)
275 x 1 slowest rep ever
225 x 5 each rep paused

Incline DB Press with pauses
75 x 6,6, 8

Db Rows
95 x 8, 8,
100 x 8,8, 10

Thicker tubing pullaparts
3 x 15

DB Hammer curls
45 x 10
50 x 8
55 x 6

Shoulder Prehab with tubing

So yeah, my bench is horrible. I expected to get alot more on the board presses. I thought my setup was good, it was consistent from set to set. I felt good going in, elbows felt good, etc. I don’t know what happened though. I don’t feel burned out or anything or overtrained. Next week I hope to get 275 for a triple. Anyone see anything I am doing wrong from my log?

Holy shit, great work. You guys make me feel like a little girl.

[quote]harbinjc wrote:
M.E Upper
3/12/07

Determined to get some good shirt work in after some raw board presses

warmups then worked off 2 board

405x3, 430x3, 445x2, 455x1, 465x1, 480 miss

Shirt on…
495x2 2 board warmup

565x1/2 board
565 to chest successful…finally got a weight to touch successfully
I smoked it up to about 1"from lockout then fought through it and got it

My shirt was about as high as I would ever do, and the sleeves are too big and need tightenedup a bit, but I am sure 600 will fall at my meet, just need to have a few more good shirt workouts

One arm dumbell rows 2x12 and then 10 with 145lb db

KB tricep extensions 3x10 with 50’s…I like these a lot

Meat, I sure hope you plan on doing a full meet with the kind of numbers you have…nice dead
[/quote]

Question for you experienced guys. In the Overcoming Lousy leverages article, the author recommends long limbed benchers use 40-60% of their max when using bands. If I add the bands and say they have a tension of 100lbs, and I normally use 135 for my straight weight speed bench, would I count the band tension towards the total load I will be lifting?

[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:
Question for you experienced guys. In the Overcoming Lousy leverages article, the author recommends long limbed benchers use 40-60% of their max when using bands. If I add the bands and say they have a tension of 100lbs, and I normally use 135 for my straight weight speed bench, would I count the band tension towards the total load I will be lifting?[/quote]

For DE day?? id say yes but you wouldnt subtract an even 100 get it somewhere between as the bottom will be a lot less. main thing make sure it stays FAST!! Better to stop a lil short thn to far and booger up ME day.

Phill

Another awesome w/o Keep it up

Phill

[quote]harbinjc wrote:
M.E Upper
3/12/07

Determined to get some good shirt work in after some raw board presses

warmups then worked off 2 board

405x3, 430x3, 445x2, 455x1, 465x1, 480 miss

Shirt on…
495x2 2 board warmup

565x1/2 board
565 to chest successful…finally got a weight to touch successfully
I smoked it up to about 1"from lockout then fought through it and got it

My shirt was about as high as I would ever do, and the sleeves are too big and need tightenedup a bit, but I am sure 600 will fall at my meet, just need to have a few more good shirt workouts

One arm dumbell rows 2x12 and then 10 with 145lb db

KB tricep extensions 3x10 with 50’s…I like these a lot

Meat, I sure hope you plan on doing a full meet with the kind of numbers you have…nice dead
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