Westside/PLing Training Thread

[quote]Matt McGorry wrote:
GT625 wrote:
Matt McGorry wrote:
Figured out how to DB Floor Presses on my own. I got aerobic steps and put them next to my legs with the DB on one end. Then I shimmy them off on to my thighs. First rep always feels shitty on the elbows. Forgot how hard these were.

-Matt

That sounds kinda tough…I usually just place the two dumbbells side by side on the floor, then sit on the floor with the two dumbbells between my legs, right in my crotch. Then I rock the weights back and pull them onto my chest. From there I just move my elbows to my side on the floor and start. Maybe try that and sees how it works for ya.
This is a great thread btw.

Have you tried that technique with weights that are around your 3-5RM? I find that it’s a piece of cake setting the DB’s up if I’m doing higher reps, but theres def no way I can rock back with the 100s and adjust from there.

But if I’m doing a heavy set, I need to basically rock back into my exact start position and press from there…if I mess around with repositioning the weights from my chest to the sides, I think I’ll lose valualble energy and stability.

Thanks for the input though, maybe I’m picturing it differently than you’re saying?

-Matt[/quote]

Yea, that’s pretty what I do. I’ll lay back with the weights, flex my lats and slide my elbows off to the floor. When I do DB floor presses I wanna have my elbows in pretty close. Maybe I’ve just gotten used to doing it this way.

[quote]Phill wrote:
ME Squat Feb 27th 2006

Wow feeling GOOD!! Today but too good. Too amped up maybe a bit, under hydrated, over stimulated, and general just high strung releasing stress hyped about lifting. Had the Slayer cranked. Unracked the 365 front squat stepped back and had to abort re rack it fast I about blacked out. Had to step back calm down HR was up just I was fired UP from there on out had to calm down, LOL went well

Front Squat ( to 14 inch box touch and go to assure depth 2? or so below parallel)
Bar x ton
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 3
315 x 3
365 x 3
405 x 3 (10 lb PR @ 3 reps) slight nose bleed.
415 x 1 PR

Went great the near Black out was a bit crazy but got that handled nailed a 3RM PR then 1 RM pr the drive the competitor in me wanted to keep adding more but this time let the head win and walked away with those PR?s

Oh and doing these cross armed BB style just that forearm pain etc I have to right now and well its still a front squat IMO

DL for Reps (last set 75 seconds as many as you can get)
315 x 3
405 x 1
500 x 10 ( 2 rep PR)
WOW almost didn?t go for this rep work due to how I was feeling the HR etc but nailed this well first 6 were done in about 25 seconds, last one was a grinder and had to get my breath for a while before it. 10 aint to shabby

Lunges (light)
65lbs x 8 (3 set)
About all I had in me at this point

Decline sit ups 70lbs
3 x 8

GREAT work out But also one of those ones that kind of scares you like am I going to kill my self LOL but im here on ward and up ward need to be better hydrate and didn?t do my warm up I have been oh well some nice PR?s

Phill

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Damn. Awesome stuff man. I’m going to have to add a few pounds to my dead this week.

I’ve notice I can pull pretty well when I’m pyched up, but I can’t squat, too much stuff to pay attention to.
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Awesome session Phill!

[quote]Phill wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
you hit on something that i’ve been doing for awhile now with great results. everytime i go into the gym i set some sort of PR. you are not always going to hit the 1rm and you shouldn’t. you may feel tired one day and not as strong. instead of being dissappointed by this try and set a PR with the # of reps you do on a given movement.

if you are trying to hit 1 rm’s every week your progress will soon hault. 1rm’s take a lot out of you. I try for a 1rm about once a month. mostly its 3 to 5 reps.

always striving for some sort of PR will keep you motivated and on track. keep a log with your progress. I write PR next any new one. That way you don’t have to look back through an entire log book to find your previous best. just look for the PR.

your on the right track,
meat

GREAT POST MEAT!!!
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Definitely keep a log, keep track of your progress. I just made a spreadsheet, I was finding it hard to remember if I was hitting pr’s on things, like triples or fives, especially on things like Rack pulls where you have 3-4 settings and then 1rm, 3rm, 5rm etc for each setting.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
Phill,
you are becoming a monster!! great job. I like to hear about that kind of intensity! If you aren’t bleeding, then you aren’t straining…

I guess i got to get back to front squatting. you are going to catch me. Also, great job on the deads. most people can’t hit 500 once- 10 times is awesome.

keep it up,

meat
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Thx bro was a great session loved the intensity right on that verge walking the edge. Hey and thx to you im doing the front squats I had never tried them a and ME before 4 weeks ago I really thing they are helping a ton and if know I give a shit they are killer to nail PR’s in.

Man the DL’s I honestly about shat myself on pull ten it was a HUAL!! nailed it and set it down with 5 seconds left but didnt have another pull in me for damn sure that was everything on this day. Now thats the type of cardio I like. few weeks and Ill try and pull a max again.

Thx again
Phill

Thanks guys one of those days heres to more for everyone

Phill

jesus phil-thats awesome—

thought i might pop this question to you guys—i am applying to a few fire departments–as a paramedic-but i still have to go through the academy and do all the running, etc—any thoughts on incorporating running into my training, from what i understand(and if i get hired, which is a ways off until i know)there is much running up stairs, some distance(dont think more than 3-5 miles)—currently my training looks like this:

sunday-events(heavy press(log/axel), yoke, tire, stones, farmers, chain drag-some combination of those

mon- front squats,oly squats, pullups/chins, rear delt work-nothing heavy-just rep work-not too taxing

tues-off

wens-deads(whatever cycle my"coach" has me on) , rdl’s, light jerks/push press, tri work, some kind of row

thurs-off

fri- box squats- rep work-typically med weight 3’s,5’s or whatever, not killer heavy, some kind of press-jerks, db log, again nothing killer,

sat --off–

overall- the only me type days are sunday(varies each week, one week light for speed and distance-one week heavy, and wens deads are pretty heavy…so far this is working pretty well-dead is going up, events going up, oh is going up slowly—i usually play basketball on mon and tues, but next week will be the last for monday’s bball, still playing on tues nights—

was thinking of maybe doing a distance run on thurs-starting with 2 miles for a few weeks and building from there—i figure bball on tues, run on thurs, and events on sun is probably gonna be enough…

just thought i’d get some thoughts…yes i know it looks like a lot…but i guess ill just have to see what happens when i add in the extra run day…i dont think it will be too bad…also considering mon is sorta optional…wow long post…sorry

edit–now that i look at this i’ll probably go back to mondays off, and on fri i will just alternate what squat i do weekly or bi-weekly–say wk.1 front squats for 5’s wk.2 oly squat for 5’s wk.3 box squats, repeat w/ heavier weight or more reps…

[quote]Matt McGorry wrote:
2/27/06- Tuesday- ME BP- Medium Stress

A)2 Board Bench Press
Barx10
135x5
185x3
225x2
------- 2 board -----
255x1
280x1
300x1
270x1
270x1

B1)Close Grip Incline Barbell Bench
205x5 x5 x5

B2)Close Grip Pullups (prone grip)
BWx5 BW+50x5 x5 x5

C1)DB Lateral Raise (to side of body)
45x10 50x6/45x4

C2)Prone Grip Cable Row
180x8 170x8 160x10

D)Alternate DB Hammer Curl
40x10

Notes: Not suprisingly, I wasn’t where I should have been. Probably 10-15lbs shy. But, that’s not bad considering the fact that it was only 2 days ago that I didn’t eat for the entire day. Despite 10 hours of sleep last night, I still obviously acquired some intense CNS fatigue that I couldn’t quite get over.

All I can say is I hope I’m back up to par by next week. I’m going out to LA for spring break and have to show up JimmyBoom in the gym. :slight_smile:

-MAtt[/quote]

Good luck on that, I’m fully prepared to teach you who is boss in the world of ME.

I AM FAST TWITCH

-hartley

[quote]Phill wrote:
ME Squat Feb 27th 2006

Wow feeling GOOD!! Today but too good. Too amped up maybe a bit, under hydrated, over stimulated, and general just high strung releasing stress hyped about lifting. Had the Slayer cranked. Unracked the 365 front squat stepped back and had to abort re rack it fast I about blacked out. Had to step back calm down HR was up just I was fired UP from there on out had to calm down, LOL went well

Front Squat ( to 14 inch box touch and go to assure depth 2? or so below parallel)
Bar x ton
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 3
315 x 3
365 x 3
405 x 3 (10 lb PR @ 3 reps) slight nose bleed.
415 x 1 PR

Went great the near Black out was a bit crazy but got that handled nailed a 3RM PR then 1 RM pr the drive the competitor in me wanted to keep adding more but this time let the head win and walked away with those PR?s

Oh and doing these cross armed BB style just that forearm pain etc I have to right now and well its still a front squat IMO

DL for Reps (last set 75 seconds as many as you can get)
315 x 3
405 x 1
500 x 10 ( 2 rep PR)
WOW almost didn?t go for this rep work due to how I was feeling the HR etc but nailed this well first 6 were done in about 25 seconds, last one was a grinder and had to get my breath for a while before it. 10 aint to shabby

Lunges (light)
65lbs x 8 (3 set)
About all I had in me at this point

Decline sit ups 70lbs
3 x 8

GREAT work out But also one of those ones that kind of scares you like am I going to kill my self LOL but im here on ward and up ward need to be better hydrate and didn?t do my warm up I have been oh well some nice PR?s

Phill

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500 for ten… beastly my man, beastly

boom

Whenever I am dragging ass a little bit or feeling beat up, I just read you crazy bastards’ logs and I’m inspired. Great work Phill!

Dre

[quote]Phill wrote:
ME Squat Feb 27th 2006

Wow feeling GOOD!! Today but too good. Too amped up maybe a bit, under hydrated, over stimulated, and general just high strung releasing stress hyped about lifting. Had the Slayer cranked. Unracked the 365 front squat stepped back and had to abort re rack it fast I about blacked out. Had to step back calm down HR was up just I was fired UP from there on out had to calm down, LOL went well

Front Squat ( to 14 inch box touch and go to assure depth 2? or so below parallel)
Bar x ton
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 3
315 x 3
365 x 3
405 x 3 (10 lb PR @ 3 reps) slight nose bleed.
415 x 1 PR

Went great the near Black out was a bit crazy but got that handled nailed a 3RM PR then 1 RM pr the drive the competitor in me wanted to keep adding more but this time let the head win and walked away with those PR?s

Oh and doing these cross armed BB style just that forearm pain etc I have to right now and well its still a front squat IMO

DL for Reps (last set 75 seconds as many as you can get)
315 x 3
405 x 1
500 x 10 ( 2 rep PR)
WOW almost didn?t go for this rep work due to how I was feeling the HR etc but nailed this well first 6 were done in about 25 seconds, last one was a grinder and had to get my breath for a while before it. 10 aint to shabby

Lunges (light)
65lbs x 8 (3 set)
About all I had in me at this point

Decline sit ups 70lbs
3 x 8

GREAT work out But also one of those ones that kind of scares you like am I going to kill my self LOL but im here on ward and up ward need to be better hydrate and didn?t do my warm up I have been oh well some nice PR?s

Phill

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[quote]gags wrote:
jesus phil-thats awesome—

thought i might pop this question to you guys—i am applying to a few fire departments–as a paramedic-but i still have to go through the academy and do all the running, etc—any thoughts on incorporating running into my training, from what i understand(and if i get hired, which is a ways off until i know)there is much running up stairs, some distance(dont think more than 3-5 miles)—currently my training looks like this:

sunday-events(heavy press(log/axel), yoke, tire, stones, farmers, chain drag-some combination of those

mon- front squats,oly squats, pullups/chins, rear delt work-nothing heavy-just rep work-not too taxing

tues-off

wens-deads(whatever cycle my"coach" has me on) , rdl’s, light jerks/push press, tri work, some kind of row

thurs-off

fri- box squats- rep work-typically med weight 3’s,5’s or whatever, not killer heavy, some kind of press-jerks, db log, again nothing killer,

sat --off–

overall- the only me type days are sunday(varies each week, one week light for speed and distance-one week heavy, and wens deads are pretty heavy…so far this is working pretty well-dead is going up, events going up, oh is going up slowly—i usually play basketball on mon and tues, but next week will be the last for monday’s bball, still playing on tues nights—

was thinking of maybe doing a distance run on thurs-starting with 2 miles for a few weeks and building from there—i figure bball on tues, run on thurs, and events on sun is probably gonna be enough…

just thought i’d get some thoughts…yes i know it looks like a lot…but i guess ill just have to see what happens when i add in the extra run day…i dont think it will be too bad…also considering mon is sorta optional…wow long post…sorry

edit–now that i look at this i’ll probably go back to mondays off, and on fri i will just alternate what squat i do weekly or bi-weekly–say wk.1 front squats for 5’s wk.2 oly squat for 5’s wk.3 box squats, repeat w/ heavier weight or more reps…[/quote]

Thanks gags

hey congrats on your choice and your strongman training should help a ton actually and compliment it ever watched the fireman games etc lots of not just running but carying stuff etc much like strongman.

I might suggest you take a look at steve mcdonalds log on west side he’;s competing in the arnold and other highest level strongman stuff and how I just have outlined my training so far seems to be working and has allowed me to add some running Im doing longer intervals and then a day of LONG weight hill climbs or tire flips sled draggins etc

pretty much you have One ME upper and one ME lower just one day after events these are brief but money breif in the exercises one or two hard and heavy then some mop up. then an option day in the week for lighter assistnce moves hit the bis tris etc and recovery light work and plenty of days for needed conditioning take the day off or just light wlaking etc prior to the saurdays events and bust balls on them

Im on week two and well its working like I said I had my doubts on the mE days so close but I put the upper first and I was ready and still hit a PR and you read the lower today and im running etc for the first time in a while

Phill

gags meant to add I put in or try to on the OTHER off days as well just very light recover stuff as well like say three x 20-50 of reverse hyper, OH press, band pull downs, maybe band GM’s and light rep ab work nothing to failure but blood flow. Just a quick 15 20 mins and the assistance day is my speed like plyos de log and then just small isolation etc

Phill

[quote]JimmyBoom wrote
500 for ten… beastly my man, beastly

boom[/quote]

Thanks bro id like to get that to at or as near 15 by the meet in friggin 5 weeks also very much looking to pull a max in a few weeks this stuff is helping but killer

Thx again

Phill

[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:
Whenever I am dragging ass a little bit or feeling beat up, I just read you crazy bastards’ logs and I’m inspired. Great work Phill!

Dre

[/quote]

Thanks Dre I feel the same way and why I feel this thread is the best damn one on the net its not BS just hard work and good time

Keep it up and thx

Phill

[quote]JimmyBoom wrote:

Good luck on that, I’m fully prepared to teach you who is boss in the world of ME.

I AM FAST TWITCH

-hartley[/quote]

You’ll have a slight advantage considering my sick day, travel, and jet lag. But nonetheless, I’ll still bring it.

As long as we both bench over 300 together for the first time, I’ll be happy. That shouldn’t be an issue.

-MAtt

2-28-07

LB Heavy with lighter assistance

Front Squats BB style
Was shooting for a 3RM

Warmups
135 x 5
175 x 3
195 x 3
215 x 3, third rep was a real grind (PR)
225 x 2 (PR)
Next week I am going to hit 225 (atleast) for a triple

Goodmornings
135 x 10
155 x 10,10,10

Leg Press with 1-2 second pauses
10 plates x 10,10,10,10

1 Leg 45 degree back extensions
BW+10 x 10,10,10,10 each leg

Decline Situps with 20# Med Ball over head
x 15,20,20,20

Leg Raises with 10# DB between feet
4 x 6

Was going to do some calf work, but I was wiped out. The leg presses with pauses really took a lot out of me. The first couple sets I was driving the weight up out of the pause. By the last 2 I was slowly pushing it up. Thanks for that little variation guys. When I can walk again I will let you know.

Phil–good points…Steve mac’s program is more of what i was doing…dont know why i veered away… gonna go back to it due to it worked…and today’s deads suffered from mon’s squats…good looks.

here’s today
1.deads-2255 3153,2 4002 4602 was supposed to do a triple than a double with 460, but 3rd rep got out in front and tried to muscle it up…totally sapped me
3606
2.gm’s-135
5 1855 2254,4
3.db oh-4010 706 —1 arm- 905 1003
4.cable rows-rope–16010 1806 16010
5. floor press- 185
6 225*5,5

[quote]Phill wrote:
we’ll let the results of our progress and logs talk for that waste of my energy trying to pee in someone elses post toasties I have better thing to do.

Phill

[/quote]

LOL! Post Toasties! Yeah, fuck the Kellogg’s Corn Flakes, it’s all about the Post Toasties. NICE!!!

Oh, and killer session too.

2/28/07 DE Lower

A)Box Squats (14")=240 x 2 x 8

B)“DE” Deads (pulling against average bands)
135 x 3
225 x 1
325 x 1 x 5

C)GMs=225 x 5 x 5 (established PR)

D1)Single-Leg Press Calves (paused at stretched position)=180 x 6 x 4 each le
D2)Hanging Pikes=8 x 3

E1)TKEs w/ light band=15 x 2 each leg

E2)Single-Arm Mini-Band=50 x 1 (both), 25 x 2 (left arm only)

NOTES: Too much band tension on the deadlifts, I think. Last week I pulled against the light bands, and didn’t think there was enough tension. The average bands were overkill though. There was nothing dynamic about these deads today–it seemed like each rep took almost two seconds from the floor to lockout.

The DL used to be my money lift, my favorite one. It’s still 9o pounds ahead of my squat, but mentally it’s not clicking right now. I’m trying the bands again next week (just to give them a solid three-week try) but I think I need to backpeddle a little and just focus on consistent technique with straight weight for DE days.

I hit my goal of 225 x 5 x 5 on the GMs, good times. I’m going to load these in a linear progression starting 10 pounds heavier than I did back at the end of January and see how I respond to that plan.

ME Bench

full ROM warmup
0x10
135x5
225x3
315x2

2 Board (paused)

405x3
495x2
580x1
405x16

Decline (paused)
405x18
315x22

close grip bench (paused)
225x10
315x10

found out that my bench comp has been pushed back to March 31st. It was mid April. that gives me four weeks. for the next two weeks I’m going to hit the 1 Board and then one week to test and the last week will be rest. I’ve been “dieting” and I’ve gotten down to 275. I ain’t getting any lower than that. I don’t know what I was thinking trying to get down to 242. I would have to cut off a couple limbs to get down to that.

Now I have to just keep the weight at or under 275. I go back and forth on whether to play it safe and go for weights that I know I can get or go balls to the wall and try for the PR.

meat