[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
Just in case Jim doesn’t answer, yes you will increase your raw maxes thereby getting you stronger. More fit? That’s going to be up to your conditioning beyond the basic lifts.[/quote]
I am concerned because I plan to hit a 700lb raw deadlift in july. I want to change body composition…but I dont want my lifts to suffer.
After the comp, i am tossing up what program to use.
My current program tends to suffer when i add any fitness stuff or cardio.
5/3/1 seems to allow for fitness stuff.
i plan to do a strongman comp next year sometime…plus I just want to be a healthy 275. i want to look good too
I just found out that wee jimmy wendler posts here (Eco sent him a qa at elite earlier this week). I made my contribution to the gold plated toilet seat and just started my second week.
This program has been a major ego check for me, and I had to decrease my training maxes 3 or 4 times during the first week. I think I have them dialed in a little better now.
Start low, and get the reps
For me (old fat guy) taking 2 minutes rest between sets (3 min between work sets) has made the difference between a productive workout and not.
I have a meet (my first) in 6 weeks, so I’ll report my progress. In the meantime, I will prolly just lurk here…
I am a powerlifter who needs some time away from shirts, suits, chains and bands.
In the process of getting to where I am now, I have become “quite soft around the edges”.
Will I still be able to increase my raw maxs on 5/3/1 whilst getting stronger and fitter?
I know Phil has done well with gaining muscle mass…have other people done so?
I am looking to get a bigger back and shoulders.
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Yes. Getting stronger and more fit is simply combining a quality strength training program with a conditioning program that compliments each other. They cannot exist independently.
Getting “fit” is a goal I know nothing about - to me being “fit” AND “strong” would be pulling 700 and running a sub 6:00 minute mile. Is this your definition? Probably not. So figure out what being “fit” is to you and strive for it.
Great progress so far, I’ll send the full results to ya for some marketing after I’ve went through a few more waves :D. Front squat is shooting through the roof.
I think I may have started Sumo Deadlift too low though; before I started training it I barely hit 275x3. 2 waves later I’m hitting 275x15 on the 95% day.
Do you think I should start making bigger jumps than 15 lbs a wave? Set for 245 tomorrow and I’m shooting for at least 20, slightly concerned about losing strength in the lower rep ranges.[/quote]
Retest your rep maxes EXACTLY how I say in the manual. Do this on any training day in the near future; just be sure you are ready and feel good. Find out your max from this and then recalculate. You’ll probably find a more accurate max this way.
This is not a bad problem to have. It’s best to err too light.
Just want to say thanks Jim. I bought your manual and my deadlift went from 495 to 545 and my Log press went from 230 to 245 and all my rep maxes went up as well doing 5/3/1. I think it works well for strongman as I need to be strong at doing reps and it was something I neglected in the past.
[quote]Kalle wrote:
Just want to say thanks Jim. I bought your manual and my deadlift went from 495 to 545 and my Log press went from 230 to 245 and all my rep maxes went up as well doing 5/3/1. I think it works well for strongman as I need to be strong at doing reps and it was something I neglected in the past. [/quote]
Congratulations on the progress. This is great to hear. I’ve had a lot of people training for strongman use this program or at least inquire about using this for strongman. Good to see simple principles can work for just about everyone.
[quote]DF85 wrote:
I am pretty sure 5/3/1 is the best training methoed ever.
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I would never claim that or even think that. The biggest problem I had with training programs, at least when they are written for the masses is when you see something like this:
Squat - 4 sets of 8 reps
How heavy? Where is the progression from one workout to the next? Where does one start? I can see and understand writing some basic sets/reps for assistance work but for a squat, bench, deadlift (or any other big, compound lift)…that is absurd.
All I wanted to do is have a simple starting point, a definitive workout for each day (reps, sets, %) and a logical progression to the next workout and the next month, etc. That’s all that this is - a simple and proven way to get from point A to point B. Putting some haphazard sets and reps to an exercise and expect anyone (beginner to advanced) to make progress isn’t exactly a recipe for success.
[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
Kalle wrote:
Just want to say thanks Jim. I bought your manual and my deadlift went from 495 to 545 and my Log press went from 230 to 245 and all my rep maxes went up as well doing 5/3/1. I think it works well for strongman as I need to be strong at doing reps and it was something I neglected in the past.
Congratulations on the progress. This is great to hear. I’ve had a lot of people training for strongman use this program or at least inquire about using this for strongman. Good to see simple principles can work for just about everyone.[/quote]
It is especially awesome considering last year I made 0 improvement in either lift!
I just wanna say I have completed my 1st week of my first wave of the now iconic 5/3/1 program and considering i based my maxes on less than 90%(to be on the safe side) the big but boring template has been very humbling. Just wanna give it up for Jim cos i’ve only read the manual 50 or so times and still picking up more evrytime.
so i’ll keep you up to date with the progress and hope I have contributed in some samll way to your solid gold bathroom.
I just wanna say I have completed my 1st week of my first wave of the now iconic 5/3/1 program and considering i based my maxes on less than 90%(to be on the safe side) the big but boring template has been very humbling. Just wanna give it up for Jim cos i’ve only read the manual 50 or so times and still picking up more evrytime.
so i’ll keep you up to date with the progress and hope I have contributed in some samll way to your solid gold bathroom.
I am using front squats in place of backsquats. Is there anyone else doing this who is not making as big of jumps on this lift as they are on all the other ones.
[quote]irishlifting wrote:
I just wanna say I have completed my 1st week of my first wave of the now iconic 5/3/1 program and considering i based my maxes on less than 90%(to be on the safe side) the big but boring template has been very humbling. Just wanna give it up for Jim cos i’ve only read the manual 50 or so times and still picking up more evrytime.
so i’ll keep you up to date with the progress and hope I have contributed in some samll way to your solid gold bathroom.
Cheers[/quote]
The BBB template looks easy on paper, but that’s where it ends.
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
I just wanna say I have completed my 1st week of my first wave of the now iconic 5/3/1 program and considering i based my maxes on less than 90%(to be on the safe side) the big but boring template has been very humbling. Just wanna give it up for Jim cos i’ve only read the manual 50 or so times and still picking up more evrytime.
so i’ll keep you up to date with the progress and hope I have contributed in some samll way to your solid gold bathroom.
Cheers
The BBB template looks easy on paper, but that’s where it ends.[/quote]
I agree, but i rather take the trimvirate and do 5 sets of 10reps for each exercices.
[quote]crankMAN wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
I just wanna say I have completed my 1st week of my first wave of the now iconic 5/3/1 program and considering i based my maxes on less than 90%(to be on the safe side) the big but boring template has been very humbling. Just wanna give it up for Jim cos i’ve only read the manual 50 or so times and still picking up more evrytime.
so i’ll keep you up to date with the progress and hope I have contributed in some samll way to your solid gold bathroom.
Cheers
The BBB template looks easy on paper, but that’s where it ends.
I agree, but i rather take the trimvirate and do 5 sets of 10reps for each exercices.
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Yeah I was considering starting off which that approach but i just wanted to use bbb as ‘an ice breaker’ I will definately be using that in the future but want to concentrate on the big lifts and beat the specified third rep set each time.