Wendler 5/3/1 Program - pt 2.

[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
Dan E wrote:
Something a little new I’ve been screwing around with - a little more detailed version (actually versions) of Boring But Big.

one example Mrs. Wendler please, thanks

I’ll see if my mom will help you out.

Hi Jim - will you be posting this on the thread or is this by PM only?

Thanks
Dan

You’ll have to ask MRS. Wendler!
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Mrs Wendler - wherever you are - please!!! we are all desperate to know the new BB version (well I am anyway!!)

JW

Know this thread is geared towards to strength training but i was wondering how much muscle hyperthrophy have any of you guys gained on the 531 program and on which template BBB, Trivirumate etc

P.S Also a proud owner of the awesome ebook =)

You are the MAN!!!

[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
I’ve got a question for the folks who have been rounning 5/3/1 for a good few cycles and big Jim, I have now decided to concentrate more on my weaker movements aka the squat and bench as my deadlift is much better. But I was just wondering for those of you who have taken this road how to approach hitting reps.

Do you max out each week of the 3 working cycles or do you pick your battles, as in hit the reps for the week and only bust your ass really hard on the last set when your feeling up to it?. as I have been busting my balls each week with every movement but finding my that although my progress has been consistent my recovery is taking slightly longer which could lead to a serious burn out in another couple of cycles.

Pick your battles - and do only the prescribed reps for the DL.[/quote]

Cheers Jim thats all I wanted to hear. Just out of curiousity are you are still making good gains out of 5/3/1?

[quote]irishlifting wrote:
Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
I’ve got a question for the folks who have been rounning 5/3/1 for a good few cycles and big Jim, I have now decided to concentrate more on my weaker movements aka the squat and bench as my deadlift is much better. But I was just wondering for those of you who have taken this road how to approach hitting reps.

Do you max out each week of the 3 working cycles or do you pick your battles, as in hit the reps for the week and only bust your ass really hard on the last set when your feeling up to it?. as I have been busting my balls each week with every movement but finding my that although my progress has been consistent my recovery is taking slightly longer which could lead to a serious burn out in another couple of cycles.

Pick your battles - and do only the prescribed reps for the DL.

Cheers Jim thats all I wanted to hear. Just out of curiousity are you are still making good gains out of 5/3/1?
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Yes…Bench is going well, despite my fucked up shoulder and squat is finally coming around. DL is OK and the military is OK. I’m trying to train 2 days/week now and see how the gains come. So far, I feel great.

The question I know I will get is: How did I hurt the shoulder? Drank too much and fell asleep on my shoulder about 6 weeks ago. Stayed in that position for 8 hours and woke up with no range of motion or movement in that arm.

[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
…The question I know I will get is: How did I hurt the shoulder? Drank too much and fell asleep on my shoulder about 6 weeks ago. Stayed in that position for 8 hours and woke up with no range of motion or movement in that arm.[/quote]

If I drink too much. I sleep very soundly for 2-3 hours and then have insomnia. At that point, I would notice pain from sleeping position and adjust. In my case, I sometimes wake up on my stomach and if I maintained that position for quite a few hours. I would have lower back pain for several days.

[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
I’ve got a question for the folks who have been rounning 5/3/1 for a good few cycles and big Jim, I have now decided to concentrate more on my weaker movements aka the squat and bench as my deadlift is much better. But I was just wondering for those of you who have taken this road how to approach hitting reps.

Do you max out each week of the 3 working cycles or do you pick your battles, as in hit the reps for the week and only bust your ass really hard on the last set when your feeling up to it?. as I have been busting my balls each week with every movement but finding my that although my progress has been consistent my recovery is taking slightly longer which could lead to a serious burn out in another couple of cycles.

Pick your battles - and do only the prescribed reps for the DL.

Cheers Jim thats all I wanted to hear. Just out of curiousity are you are still making good gains out of 5/3/1?

Yes…Bench is going well, despite my fucked up shoulder and squat is finally coming around. DL is OK and the military is OK. I’m trying to train 2 days/week now and see how the gains come. So far, I feel great.

The question I know I will get is: How did I hurt the shoulder? Drank too much and fell asleep on my shoulder about 6 weeks ago. Stayed in that position for 8 hours and woke up with no range of motion or movement in that arm.[/quote]

Well being from the holy land of alcohol I have found myself in some really weird positions the morning after, my worst one being slouched over a bin(trash can) in the rain but I have suffered that shoulder shit myself so I basically gave up the hard drinking for a few designated times of year. But good to hear your still making gains I can only see myself using the template for a long time to come, well its either that on hit the vodka & stout road again.

[quote]irishlifting wrote:
Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
I’ve got a question for the folks who have been rounning 5/3/1 for a good few cycles and big Jim, I have now decided to concentrate more on my weaker movements aka the squat and bench as my deadlift is much better. But I was just wondering for those of you who have taken this road how to approach hitting reps.

Do you max out each week of the 3 working cycles or do you pick your battles, as in hit the reps for the week and only bust your ass really hard on the last set when your feeling up to it?. as I have been busting my balls each week with every movement but finding my that although my progress has been consistent my recovery is taking slightly longer which could lead to a serious burn out in another couple of cycles.

Pick your battles - and do only the prescribed reps for the DL.

Cheers Jim thats all I wanted to hear. Just out of curiousity are you are still making good gains out of 5/3/1?

Yes…Bench is going well, despite my fucked up shoulder and squat is finally coming around. DL is OK and the military is OK. I’m trying to train 2 days/week now and see how the gains come. So far, I feel great.

The question I know I will get is: How did I hurt the shoulder? Drank too much and fell asleep on my shoulder about 6 weeks ago. Stayed in that position for 8 hours and woke up with no range of motion or movement in that arm.

Well being from the holy land of alcohol I have found myself in some really weird positions the morning after, my worst one being slouched over a bin(trash can) in the rain but I have suffered that shoulder shit myself so I basically gave up the hard drinking for a few designated times of year. But good to hear your still making gains I can only see myself using the template for a long time to come, well its either that on hit the vodka & stout road again.
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I may be over in Ireland at the end of the year (October/Novemeber) for a seminar. Not sure where but it MAY happen.

[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
I’ve got a question for the folks who have been rounning 5/3/1 for a good few cycles and big Jim, I have now decided to concentrate more on my weaker movements aka the squat and bench as my deadlift is much better. But I was just wondering for those of you who have taken this road how to approach hitting reps.

Do you max out each week of the 3 working cycles or do you pick your battles, as in hit the reps for the week and only bust your ass really hard on the last set when your feeling up to it?. as I have been busting my balls each week with every movement but finding my that although my progress has been consistent my recovery is taking slightly longer which could lead to a serious burn out in another couple of cycles.

Pick your battles - and do only the prescribed reps for the DL.

Cheers Jim thats all I wanted to hear. Just out of curiousity are you are still making good gains out of 5/3/1?

Yes…Bench is going well, despite my fucked up shoulder and squat is finally coming around. DL is OK and the military is OK. I’m trying to train 2 days/week now and see how the gains come. So far, I feel great.

The question I know I will get is: How did I hurt the shoulder? Drank too much and fell asleep on my shoulder about 6 weeks ago. Stayed in that position for 8 hours and woke up with no range of motion or movement in that arm.[/quote]

How do you usually sleep? MY shoulder is fucked from sleeping on it too. Used to be ok, but after I gained 50lbs it’s getting pretty shitty.

How high would reps have to rise for you to recommend adding more then the prescribed 5/10 pounds per cycle? Or would you never advise adding more?

[quote]Gaius Octavius wrote:
How high would reps have to rise for you to recommend adding more then the prescribed 5/10 pounds per cycle? Or would you never advise adding more?[/quote]

They would have to be damn high. I have done 12+ reps before and just added the standard 5/10lbs. Remember small gains over a long period add up to big gains in the long haul.

[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
Jim Wendler wrote:
irishlifting wrote:
I’ve got a question for the folks who have been rounning 5/3/1 for a good few cycles and big Jim, I have now decided to concentrate more on my weaker movements aka the squat and bench as my deadlift is much better. But I was just wondering for those of you who have taken this road how to approach hitting reps.

Do you max out each week of the 3 working cycles or do you pick your battles, as in hit the reps for the week and only bust your ass really hard on the last set when your feeling up to it?. as I have been busting my balls each week with every movement but finding my that although my progress has been consistent my recovery is taking slightly longer which could lead to a serious burn out in another couple of cycles.

Pick your battles - and do only the prescribed reps for the DL.

Cheers Jim thats all I wanted to hear. Just out of curiousity are you are still making good gains out of 5/3/1?

Yes…Bench is going well, despite my fucked up shoulder and squat is finally coming around. DL is OK and the military is OK. I’m trying to train 2 days/week now and see how the gains come. So far, I feel great.

The question I know I will get is: How did I hurt the shoulder? Drank too much and fell asleep on my shoulder about 6 weeks ago. Stayed in that position for 8 hours and woke up with no range of motion or movement in that arm.

Well being from the holy land of alcohol I have found myself in some really weird positions the morning after, my worst one being slouched over a bin(trash can) in the rain but I have suffered that shoulder shit myself so I basically gave up the hard drinking for a few designated times of year. But good to hear your still making gains I can only see myself using the template for a long time to come, well its either that on hit the vodka & stout road again.

I may be over in Ireland at the end of the year (October/Novemeber) for a seminar. Not sure where but it MAY happen.[/quote]

Well if it does happen get it posted up I’m sure there would be plenty of interest here.

I’d definitely been interested in attending a seminar. I live near London, UK but would fly to Ireland for this proving I can get reasonably cheap flights.

Jim, if this happens are you planning on doing a seminar in the UK while you over this way or just Ireland at this stage?
Thanks
Dan

[quote]Dan E wrote:
I’d definitely been interested in attending a seminar. I live near London, UK but would fly to Ireland for this proving I can get reasonably cheap flights.

Jim, if this happens are you planning on doing a seminar in the UK while you over this way or just Ireland at this stage?
Thanks
Dan[/quote]

Just Ireland for now.

Jim, what’s happened to Rhodes he was looking a bit skinny in the UGSS videos?

[quote]crankMAN wrote:
hey guys…been some talk about spreadsheet of iphone apps…ok this is from another board…ironaddict and the author( madhatter) did hells of a job…a fantastic spreadsheet…

check the link:

http://www.apexlogik.net/IronAddict/Hatters%20531%20(v1.2).xls [/quote]

I put in my squat max and hit enter, it set the “numbers to use” field to the correct value, but then every other squat field said “#NAME?” what am i doing wrong?

[quote]KBCThird wrote:
crankMAN wrote:
hey guys…been some talk about spreadsheet of iphone apps…ok this is from another board…ironaddict and the author( madhatter) did hells of a job…a fantastic spreadsheet…

check the link:

http://www.apexlogik.net/IronAddict/Hatters%20531%20(v1.2).xls

I put in my squat max and hit enter, it set the “numbers to use” field to the correct value, but then every other squat field said “#NAME?” what am i doing wrong?[/quote]
Could be a corrupted formula. It set mine up but I did have to add 5 to the adjusted max formula on each of the following sheets.

[quote]KBCThird wrote:
crankMAN wrote:
hey guys…been some talk about spreadsheet of iphone apps…ok this is from another board…ironaddict and the author( madhatter) did hells of a job…a fantastic spreadsheet…

check the link:

http://www.apexlogik.net/IronAddict/Hatters%20531%20(v1.2).xls

I put in my squat max and hit enter, it set the “numbers to use” field to the correct value, but then every other squat field said “#NAME?” what am i doing wrong?[/quote]

I would like to help you but never had any problem with the sheet…

Try this one. Works just fine for me. Check out the authors’ names, should be familiar.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8615840/Jim-Wendler-531-Logbook-Calculator

[quote]KAS wrote:
Try this one. Works just fine for me. Check out the authors’ names, should be familiar.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8615840/Jim-Wendler-531-Logbook-Calculator[/quote]

I’m sort of curious how I got “involved”. Thanks to whoever made it though!

For the people looking in to the bodybuilder version of BBB check out Jason Adams log “Quest for Mass” at elitefts. I bealive he is starting the new templete on Monday.

Jim, you looked thick as hell in the pic “the posedown”. no homo.