[quote]mjnewland wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
Shid wrote:
I just ordered a powerbelt from elitefts, right now im doing 5/3/1 with BBB assistance work. Should I wear a belt for the 5x10 deads and squats or just working sets?
I only use it on my top squat sets … but to each their own.
nothing wrong with wearing a belt. some of the strongest guys use it even during their warmups. I would suggest you use a belt whenever you feel like your lower back is questionable. not wearing a belt, is not a measure of masculinity. Oh, yeah, wear it one notch loose, fill your belly with air, and push out against the belt. this is the best advice I ever read.[/quote]
Won’t disagree with this. My lower back is questionable on my top sets
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
Any iPhone owners interested in making a 5/3/1 app? It would function similar to some of the spreadsheets floating around on the Interwebz.[/quote]
Isn’t the dev kit $100? If I knew I could recoup the fee, I would be willing to do it when I get my iPhone, it would be very useful app.
[quote]tom8658 wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
Any iPhone owners interested in making a 5/3/1 app? It would function similar to some of the spreadsheets floating around on the Interwebz.
Isn’t the dev kit $100? If I knew I could recoup the fee, I would be willing to do it when I get my iPhone, it would be very useful app.[/quote]
[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
tom8658 wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
Any iPhone owners interested in making a 5/3/1 app? It would function similar to some of the spreadsheets floating around on the Interwebz.
Isn’t the dev kit $100? If I knew I could recoup the fee, I would be willing to do it when I get my iPhone, it would be very useful app.
Cant wait to start 5/3/1, i am going to wait till football season is over, but then, I am going to do it. I hope this doesnt sound dumb, but is anyone doing the program in full gear?
[quote]Apostate wrote:
DK wrote:
Jim Wendler wrote:
dez6485 wrote:
Jim,
How would you suggest handling a few days out of town during a cycle, with no gym access?
I am starting my 5th cycle of 5/3/1 this week, and heading out thurs-sun to go camping.
I’m sure it goes without saying, but I won’t have access to a gym. Jeep in the woods, and a tent. I can’t lift the jeep.
Thanks
A few days won’t hurt you - don’t panic about this. I have to go out of town all the time. Enjoy your time away from life and the gym. Recovery/Recuperation is paramount in training.
Say your vacation is about a week and it falls along the same week as your deload - since you are essentially deloading (no-loading) for a week, do you recommend to just skip the deload and start back at week 1 when you get back? I’ll be coming back from raw nationals and will most likely not be able to handle doing a deload week after watching that.
Why would you not be able to deload after coming back from raw Nationals? Ever think that those guys get there by sticking to their programming even when it is “hard” to do?
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1 - I am usually motivated after I get done watching a meet so I will be ready to go when I get back. Just wanted to see from people who have gone through the program if they had any suggestions, I was quite sure it was fine, but I’m always open to intelligent input.
2 - “those guys”? Well I actually competed there last year, so I AM one of “those guys”. I’m also pretty anal about my programming, and those I help, especially around meet time and have a system of tapering and also take the week off after competition. I’m no stranger to the deload and use it myself when necessary. Like I said before, just trying to get some input from those more experienced in the 5-3-1 system. Thanks for the “preaching” though…
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
fabiop wrote:
DK wrote:
Say your vacation is about a week and it falls along the same week as your deload - since you are essentially deloading (no-loading) for a week, do you recommend to just skip the deload and start back at week 1 when you get back? I’ll be coming back from raw nationals and will most likely not be able to handle doing a deload week after watching that.
From the old thread, I clearly remember that not training at all is/was an option for deload week.
Exactly what I do for my deload. Nothing.
I do that on specific weeks where there is just no chance I can lift, but in general, a full week of nothing leaves me very weak and stiff when I come back for the next wave. This normally leads me to do 2-3 sessions of mostly BW stuff to keep the blood flowing…
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I’ll be taking the week off as my deload then. I did read the old thread but must have missed that in the however many pages + this one.
I agree that I feel a little stiff too if I go from completely nothing back to the gym, I know heavier sets feel heavier than they should be, but I’m hoping with the ‘lighter’ first week weights in the 5-3-1 system it won’t be as bad after a week off.
[quote]brauny96 wrote:
Cant wait to start 5/3/1, i am going to wait till football season is over, but then, I am going to do it. I hope this doesnt sound dumb, but is anyone doing the program in full gear?[/quote]
Not for dynamic days. You know you are not supposed to right?
[quote]motherofpearl wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
Cant wait to start 5/3/1, i am going to wait till football season is over, but then, I am going to do it. I hope this doesnt sound dumb, but is anyone doing the program in full gear?
Not for dynamic days. You know you are not supposed to right?[/quote]
brauny96: One of the philosophies behind this program is to get stronger without gear. That’s why Jim developed this program, we wanted to get stronger without the aid of powerlifting gear (page 7, first paragraph).
If you haven’t done so already, take $20 and buy the e-book.
[quote]Bchamp wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
Cant wait to start 5/3/1, i am going to wait till football season is over, but then, I am going to do it. I hope this doesnt sound dumb, but is anyone doing the program in full gear?
Not for dynamic days. You know you are not supposed to right?
brauny96: One of the philosophies behind this program is to get stronger without gear. That’s why Jim developed this program, we wanted to get stronger without the aid of powerlifting gear (page 7, first paragraph).
If you haven’t done so already, take $20 and buy the e-book.[/quote]
well yes I read it, I was just seeing who was doing it in gear, damn I want to do it, but I also have a meet in like March which is the APF state meet. I guess I’ll do it after the state meet
Jim states in the FAQ that he doesn’t train in gear, and suggests just getting as strong as possible raw while training.
“My best advice to you would be this: if you want to bench press 600 pounds with a shirt, train for a 590 pound raw bench. Iâ??m pretty sure youâ??ll be able to get 10 pounds out of your shirt.” -Jim Wendler
[quote]brauny96 wrote:
Bchamp wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
Cant wait to start 5/3/1, i am going to wait till football season is over, but then, I am going to do it. I hope this doesnt sound dumb, but is anyone doing the program in full gear?
Not for dynamic days. You know you are not supposed to right?
brauny96: One of the philosophies behind this program is to get stronger without gear. That’s why Jim developed this program, we wanted to get stronger without the aid of powerlifting gear (page 7, first paragraph).
If you haven’t done so already, take $20 and buy the e-book.
well yes I read it, I was just seeing who was doing it in gear, damn I want to do it, but I also have a meet in like March which is the APF state meet. I guess I’ll do it after the state meet
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I wear a pair of jenky single ply squat briefs on triple and single days. Today is the first day I feel like I’ve gotten anything out of them at all as far as rebound. They’re not tight or gangster at all though, so take it with a grain of salt.
I am doing so much other conditioning bullshit that I’ll take it just for the hip protection.
Do whatever you want though, I’m just telling you what I do.
[quote]Rape Weight wrote:
Does he not also say that lifting in gear could work, he just can’t be arsed to figure it out himself?[/quote]
Yea he did say something like that. I mean Brawny could do something like do some cycles, take the 3rd week from your last cycle before a meet and do the heavy sets in gear, deload and go to your meet. Don’t quote me or flame me for not knowing how powerlifters train with regards to gear, as that suggestion could fly in the face of geared powerlifting tenets.
Jim also mentioned about how chains and bands affect different strength curves, to the effect that they would benefit a geared lifter more than a raw one. If you want to train for geared meets why don’t you do a straight Westside template, I mean that’s predominantly what it was developed for, right?
Also, does training in gear really matter that much if your not an elite level powerlifter?
[quote]FuzzyUndercling wrote:
danjo228 wrote:
Me personally, I wouldn’t jump ship with any program as long as gains are being made. I would ride it as long as humanly possible and when it totally stalls, then I would think about changing.
Well, the 5x5 is a total body program, and it takes forever to get done with one workout. I’m also pretty damn tired after squats on the heavy day, almost too tired to do the rest of it. It sounds like people are in and out of the gym pretty quickly with the 5/3/1 which is why it appealed to me, I’m just worried if I’m not advanced enough to take full advantage of it.[/quote]
I just started 531 and I like it for just that reason. I don’t think you have to worry if you’re advanced enough, it’s simple. I felt the same way about Sheiko, wiped out after a day of training. Can’t do that while I’m in an accelerated nursing program.
If something works for me, I like to ride it into the ground.
