Alright so I do train MMA…mostly we do lots of groundwork…lots of rolling…anyways…yesterday I had my first Muay Thai sesion…and it was hard. And when I say hard…I don’t mean a little bit of sweaet, and some huffing and puffing. After all the drills I was on the ground…holding in the puke.
What do I feel liek today…well my stomach KILLS…talk about core work in that class…joints of my arms are a bit sore. I have a deadlift workout today LOL. Anyways I want to get bigger and stronger of course. And at 182 pounds right now, and a good strength base. I still want to keep gaining.
I’m going to do these classes 2-3x a week. Perhaps they don’t do the drills every class…but maybe they do. I kind of basically want to know…how much will it hinder my strength.
I know that if you do such hard work like that…anaerboic and such (thats all it is)…it definaetly drains you…add 4x a week of lifting (ed coan’s squat routine, and deadlift routine)…Plus 2 bench workouts. I have a feeling I’m going to fry myself. So does anyone have an estimate about how much it’ll hinder my strength?
Not neccessarily, depends on your own conditioning and recuperative abilities. obviously weight train on the days you don’t do muay thai. And since this was the first session after awhile you will get used to it, or should i say you will get conditioned. Just keep your nutrition up, and plenty of fluids. sounds like you are going to be burning a few Kcal.
[quote]dl- wrote:
Alright so I do train MMA…mostly we do lots of groundwork…lots of rolling…anyways…yesterday I had my first Muay Thai sesion…and it was hard. And when I say hard…I don’t mean a little bit of sweaet, and some huffing and puffing. After all the drills I was on the ground…holding in the puke.
What do I feel liek today…well my stomach KILLS…talk about core work in that class…joints of my arms are a bit sore. I have a deadlift workout today LOL. Anyways I want to get bigger and stronger of course. And at 182 pounds right now, and a good strength base. I still want to keep gaining.
I’m going to do these classes 2-3x a week. Perhaps they don’t do the drills every class…but maybe they do. I kind of basically want to know…how much will it hinder my strength.
I know that if you do such hard work like that…anaerboic and such (thats all it is)…it definaetly drains you…add 4x a week of lifting (ed coan’s squat routine, and deadlift routine)…Plus 2 bench workouts. I have a feeling I’m going to fry myself. So does anyone have an estimate about how much it’ll hinder my strength?[/quote]
I think if you were to continue lifting 4 times a week, you’d burn yourself out. As you said, the Muay Thai classes are very draining and I’m sure you’re lifting hard in the gym, so all of that is very taxing to the CNS.
When I began to train BJJ, I started following Chad Waterbury’s Hammer Down Series. There’s a strength routine that you do twice a week and an endurance routine you do 2-3 times a week (depending on your schedule).
My strength has actually increased since dropping down to lifting twice a week…and my joints are thanking me, too, as the BJJ classes are very taxing on the joints.
I have done Muay Thai for about 2 years nows and have to agree the first couple sessions you go to are an eye opener.
As far as your workout goes, you need prioritize. Do you to be a fighter that uses weights to supplement his training or do you want to be a huge ass mofo that has a hobby of MT and MMA?
I’m going to assume it’s the first option. In which case, recovery and skill work should be you main goals. It sounds like you are doning just a ton of volume. When I first started MT I had to drop my weight training for about 2-3 weeks until I started to adapt to the MT Training.
I will probably get flamed But I have had great success using Pavel’s PTP type routines. I like it because its high frequency, low volume and has alowed to get a lot stronger. I typically do them about 1 hour before I go to practice, by the time I get there I feel fresh again and it doesn’t hurt my skill work.
You can slowly add volume if hypertrophy is your goal amd then move the weight training to a seperate day. Stick with the basics, 2-3 big exercises and work them hard.
Hope that helps.
Pretty much what’s been said. Just wanted to throw in how important it is to be eating as much and drinking as much water as you can, all the time. When I was training mma 4 days a week, lifting 3 days a week, and trying to gain weight I was coming close to eating 10k cals daily, and this was at only 170 lbs.
Every minute you are not in the gym you will have to be eating. See how soon before your trainig session you can get away with eating and not puke. The upside is with all the training you should have some room to eat unclean, and this should help get your total cals up.
[quote]BJBliffert wrote:
I have done Muay Thai for about 2 years nows and have to agree the first couple sessions you go to are an eye opener.
As far as your workout goes, you need prioritize. Do you to be a fighter that uses weights to supplement his training or do you want to be a huge ass mofo that has a hobby of MT and MMA?
I’m going to assume it’s the first option. In which case, recovery and skill work should be you main goals. It sounds like you are doning just a ton of volume. When I first started MT I had to drop my weight training for about 2-3 weeks until I started to adapt to the MT Training.
I will probably get flamed But I have had great success using Pavel’s PTP type routines. I like it because its high frequency, low volume and has alowed to get a lot stronger. I typically do them about 1 hour before I go to practice, by the time I get there I feel fresh again and it doesn’t hurt my skill work.
You can slowly add volume if hypertrophy is your goal amd then move the weight training to a seperate day. Stick with the basics, 2-3 big exercises and work them hard.
Hope that helps.
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Truth.
-Fireplug