Wednesday: Iron John Prime Time

Training in 104 degree weather in a gym that is 120? Me, too! Oh…I get cranky in the heat. The upside of having your own gym is knowing that that slimy ooze on the equipment is your slimy ooze…

Let’s talk…

Good morning Dan.

I read “From the Ground Up” and it is TREMENDOUS!!

However, I’ve been having some slight knee pain/clicking so I’m going to layoff of deep squats for a while.

Instead I’m going to focus on the power clean and press. I really want a big power clean/press. It’s both a pulling and pressing movement, it’s a quick lift,it will help my deadlift, great cardio when done in medium-high reps, many benefits, etc.

  1. What do you think about this approach: do power clean and presses everyday (or at least 5-6 days per week) doing 5 sets of 5 reps but vary the weights? For example: Day 1-135 lbs Day 2 100 lbs Day 3 135 lbs etc Day 4 90 lbs Day 5 125 lbs etc?

I will still sprint up hills probably 2 times per week but I’m going to utilize this lift as my “bread and butter” exercise which like you said in “The Ground Up” is considered by some to be the king of all exercises (the power clean). It’s just a lot “simpler” for me to do this because I end up trying to do: farmer walks for grip, reverse hypers for an assistance exercise, pullups for biceps, dips for chest, this move for that and I end up not making any real progress on any one particular move. I have a friend who thinks this is a boring approach (only focusing on 1-2 bread and butter moves) but to me progress is not boring.

Hey Dan,

When I OH Squat my weight tends to come forward to my toes. I assume this is wrong since weight should be kept back while front and back squating.

Should my weight be on my heels when performing an Overhead squat and if so, do you have any recomendations on changes to get my weight distributed properly?

Thanks,
Steve

Hi Dan,
You’ve mentioned in the past that prior to front squats, you like to soak your wrists in warm water for about 10 minutes to improve flexibility. I don’t have that kind of time and I was wondering if you thought that soaking my wrists in boiling water for 1 minute might have the same effect? What do you think?

Thanks,
DB

Hello Dan,

I have a problem with my DL. It seems to be stuck around 1.8-9 of my BW. I especially have a hard time during the initial phase of the DL. Any advice?

Thanks in advance,

Loppar

Hello Dan,

I’ve set goals to compete in the O-lifts next year so, with that in mind, should I continue to train the power clean (that’s all I’ve ever done) or should I rebuild with the squat clean?

Thanks.

[quote]Levi1 wrote:
Hello Dan,

I’ve set goals to compete in the O-lifts next year so, with that in mind, should I continue to train the power clean (that’s all I’ve ever done) or should I rebuild with the squat clean?

Thanks.[/quote]

I’m definitely not Dan but going off of his answer to similiar questions, I’d say rebuild w/the squat clean and stay away from the “power variations.” That’s what his “From the Ground Up” states too (Dick Notmeyer).

Just trying to help. I’m still learning a TON each day!!!

[quote]BPC wrote:
Levi1 wrote:
Hello Dan,

I’ve set goals to compete in the O-lifts next year so, with that in mind, should I continue to train the power clean (that’s all I’ve ever done) or should I rebuild with the squat clean?

Thanks.

I’m definitely not Dan but going off of his answer to similiar questions, I’d say rebuild w/the squat clean and stay away from the “power variations.” That’s what his “From the Ground Up” states too (Dick Notmeyer).

Just trying to help. I’m still learning a TON each day!!!
[/quote]

Thanks for your thoughts, BPC.

That would be my inclination also, but his book has far more references to the power clean than to the squat clean. Though I imagine Dan will say something like “either, both, whatever.”

hey DJ…thank for the advice on the press.

I’ve checked the pdf of volume 3, issue 5 of getup…yes, it’s 4 pages, but the 4th page never loads (both in browser view and download).

[quote]Levi1 wrote:
BPC wrote:
Levi1 wrote:
Hello Dan,

I’ve set goals to compete in the O-lifts next year so, with that in mind, should I continue to train the power clean (that’s all I’ve ever done) or should I rebuild with the squat clean?

Thanks.

I’m definitely not Dan but going off of his answer to similiar questions, I’d say rebuild w/the squat clean and stay away from the “power variations.” That’s what his “From the Ground Up” states too (Dick Notmeyer).

Just trying to help. I’m still learning a TON each day!!!

Thanks for your thoughts, BPC.

That would be my inclination also, but his book has far more references to the power clean than to the squat clean. Though I imagine Dan will say something like “either, both, whatever.”

[/quote]

Again, just my humble opinion:

It may reference power cleans more frequently than squat cleans but if you are planning on competiting then you have to practice what you’ll be tested on, the snatch and the clean/jerk not power cleans. Not that power cleans are bad, because I do them VERY frequently although I don’t compete in olympic weightlifting either.

[quote]Danny John wrote:
Training in 104 degree weather in a gym that is 120? Me, too! Oh…I get cranky in the heat. The upside of having your own gym is knowing that that slimy ooze on the equipment is your slimy ooze…

Let’s talk…[/quote]

Supposed to be a record-breaking day here in Phoenix today (record for this day is 114). I train in my back yard. Just so happens that today is an off day. No, really.

BTW, to all who have done the OLAD only once-- do it again! You will not believe how much stronger you are the second time around. I know, I know. Dan John has wrote this a mllion times aleady and certainly does not need me to substantiate his advice. Just wanted to share that recommendation.

Funny how much I’ve improved since I stopped asking questions about lifting stuff I’d like to do and only ask questions about things I’ve done.

Well, without being there, you could simply put your toes on something like a small plate or a thin strip of wood. Just anything to get the feel. You might end up falling over, but try it and see. Internet Forum coaching has its limits…

[quote]Hiller wrote:
Hey Dan,

When I OH Squat my weight tends to come forward to my toes. I assume this is wrong since weight should be kept back while front and back squating.

Should my weight be on my heels when performing an Overhead squat and if so, do you have any recomendations on changes to get my weight distributed properly?

Thanks,
Steve[/quote]

Now, that, that was funny…

[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Hi Dan,
You’ve mentioned in the past that prior to front squats, you like to soak your wrists in warm water for about 10 minutes to improve flexibility. I don’t have that kind of time and I was wondering if you thought that soaking my wrists in boiling water for 1 minute might have the same effect? What do you think?

Thanks,
DB[/quote]

Initial…hmmm. Everybody has a sticking point somewhere and most of the thrower types have this problem. One thing: don’t quit on a weight too soon…sometimes it just has to decide to finally get off the floor.

I found that Snatch grip…or even medium grip…deadlifts seemed to help me with this. You start a little lower in the body and that might be all you need.

Tech wise, you might simply need to get your butt back a little more, too. I don’t know, not seeing you…

[quote]loppar wrote:
Hello Dan,

I have a problem with my DL. It seems to be stuck around 1.8-9 of my BW. I especially have a hard time during the initial phase of the DL. Any advice?

Thanks in advance,

Loppar[/quote]

You need to practice as you compete. So, whatever you decide to do in the meet, start doing it NOW in training…

[quote]Levi1 wrote:
Hello Dan,

I’ve set goals to compete in the O-lifts next year so, with that in mind, should I continue to train the power clean (that’s all I’ve ever done) or should I rebuild with the squat clean?

Thanks.[/quote]

Either, both, whatever…

That’s a good answer, too.

Most people do just Power Cleans, that is why the book has it discussed so much…

[quote]Levi1 wrote:
BPC wrote:
Levi1 wrote:
Hello Dan,

I’ve set goals to compete in the O-lifts next year so, with that in mind, should I continue to train the power clean (that’s all I’ve ever done) or should I rebuild with the squat clean?

Thanks.

I’m definitely not Dan but going off of his answer to similiar questions, I’d say rebuild w/the squat clean and stay away from the “power variations.” That’s what his “From the Ground Up” states too (Dick Notmeyer).

Just trying to help. I’m still learning a TON each day!!!

Thanks for your thoughts, BPC.

That would be my inclination also, but his book has far more references to the power clean than to the squat clean. Though I imagine Dan will say something like “either, both, whatever.”
[/quote]

That is the finest post in any of my PT’s so far. Do, then ask. Good.

[quote]downintucson wrote:
Danny John wrote:
Training in 104 degree weather in a gym that is 120? Me, too! Oh…I get cranky in the heat. The upside of having your own gym is knowing that that slimy ooze on the equipment is your slimy ooze…

Let’s talk…

Supposed to be a record-breaking day here in Phoenix today (record for this day is 114). I train in my back yard. Just so happens that today is an off day. No, really.

BTW, to all who have done the OLAD only once-- do it again! You will not believe how much stronger you are the second time around. I know, I know. Dan John has wrote this a mllion times aleady and certainly does not need me to substantiate his advice. Just wanted to share that recommendation.

Funny how much I’ve improved since I stopped asking questions about lifting stuff I’d like to do and only ask questions about things I’ve done.

[/quote]

The Get Up seems to be fine on this end. I can only do so much…it is free, you know. It works fine on both my computers. Maybe it is angry with you.

[quote]Danny John wrote:
Either, both, whatever…

That’s a good answer, too.

Most people do just Power Cleans, that is why the book has it discussed so much…

Levi1 wrote:
BPC wrote:
Levi1 wrote:
Hello Dan,

I’ve set goals to compete in the O-lifts next year so, with that in mind, should I continue to train the power clean (that’s all I’ve ever done) or should I rebuild with the squat clean?

Thanks.

I’m definitely not Dan but going off of his answer to similiar questions, I’d say rebuild w/the squat clean and stay away from the “power variations.” That’s what his “From the Ground Up” states too (Dick Notmeyer).

Just trying to help. I’m still learning a TON each day!!!

Thanks for your thoughts, BPC.

That would be my inclination also, but his book has far more references to the power clean than to the squat clean. Though I imagine Dan will say something like “either, both, whatever.”
[/quote]

Understood. Thanks.

One more question: I recall you writing that someone shouldn’t do full squats if their tail tucks under at the bottom. What are your suggestions as to how to correct this?

[quote]Danny John wrote:
That is the finest post in any of my PT’s so far. Do, then ask. Good.
[/quote]

Thank you. Now, I was wondering about doing OH split squats using jump-stretch bands with clubbells while standing on a stability ball…