[quote]fastken77 wrote:
Compare the testimonials on their websites:
www.renegadetraining.com/
www.ericcressey.com/thoseintheknow.html
Strange. There aren’t any on Davies’ site.
You want one? I used Johns combine program to get ready for a second shot at pro football (at 27, seven years after tearing up my knee and dropping out at a D1 school because of it) he was always available on the phone for help and when he was in chicago drove five hours out of his way to visit a couple renegade guys who lived in the area for a day. After that program I ran my best 40 time ever by .2 (a 4.92), my best 5-10-5 by .1 (4.46) and did 225 33times (best by 5 reps) @ 338lbs of bw. The guy still takes my calls when I have questions about my clients and I would invite him to my wedding if I thought he had time to attend. Never met a more standup guy in this industry. Yes I lurk here at T-Nation, rarely do i feel strongly enough about something to post but this one got me off my ass. John has said not to defend him numerous times, to just leave it alone and be above pointless debate that will never come to a resolution, but I had to speak my peace.[/quote]
I appreciate your comments please drop me a line when you can. You have always known my opinion of “testimonials” as they are a peculiar marketing avenue of this era but I appreciate yours. I can recall driving in that day to train, it sure was a lot of fun. Please give “trouble” my best. As always, drop me a line sometime.
Training is first and foremost to improve the quality of person’s life, to enhance life, performance and step one is the understanding that adversity is something you overcome. Unfortunately few comprehend that and with any taste of chaos or an unstable environment in their training or life, they will not be able to respond and will succumb to the challenges that they meet. It is inevitable and to stand at the top, you must be prepared to risk it all and fear little. Unfortunately the majority of training environments today do little to prepare athletes / individuals to be strong of mind, willing to face any obstacle and consistently whimper at the thought of the unknown. While military training has always understood this issue, ensuring it is at the foundation of their work, the general exercise public as eliminated this and unfortunately it may be the single most important element. As a competitive athlete in three major board sports, in which I often face those thirty years younger than me, I have found this to be asset that is beyond simple measurement but some people still do not understand human will is indefensible and something that must be cultivated in training.
Once you capture that everything else is child’s play. But unfortunately in conjunction with an era that is highly un-athletic whereby physical demands are lessening and even what is considering difficult is somewhat “simple”, challenge is now something people succumb to now. The perverse side of health and fitness is that it primarily is for those who rarely take part in physical activities outside of the pretty gym, whether that is recreational or competitive. While I am not affiliated at all with the “cross-fit” group and may disagree with their training approach at times, I admire the way that they have taught people to get outside of the chrome gym mentality and understand that adversity is something that you overcome. For that alone they should be commended on really helping people.
Unfortunately Renegade Training is often questioned for its protocols but unilaterally it is by those who have little if any experience within it. I don’t think I have ever read a negative comment from someone who actually knew my training system, read my five books, watched my DVD library much less attended my lectures. Even more amusing is when coaches and writers within this very industry do not understand (or respect) how their employers and managers have been within my private academic mentorship program and thus there learning experience is in-fact shaped by my long career of practical application. However such is the case in a business where sections of your lifes work is stolen by those you’d least it expect it from and sold as their own . Yet while the scientific community starts to understand and cite my training theories as the leader, it is obvious to forge a new path you do so as the first. As a training system, it is easy to see why Renegade Training is the choice for coaches / athletes / individuals dedicated to success world-wide but not for a public afraid of hard work, afraid to be the best or afraid to add value to their life. My system promotes an all-around development plan that within a sector of such modest athletic ability few have experienced. My athletes are able to manicure their specialized skills to a finite level within a “game-condition” training atmosphere and ultimately get the tough job done where others fail. I suppose you could say my marketing plan has been simple as it is based solely upon results and that is something my teams and athletes have done now for over 20 years. It has definitely cost me a great deal of money not to do the typical industry log-rolling event or photo op but it is something I ethically prefer.
Finally for those reading this post, which will be my final post on this forum, I wish you the best of luck and hope you capture what I have tried to get across as you make use of this forum. As a young man, I faced death very close and I suppose you could say that it wasn’t likely that I would be here today but somehow was blessed. Through the difficult path my life took I learnt a great many lessons which are the fabric of Renegade Training.
In faith,
John Davies
Founder Renegade Training International