'Wasting' Gains

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Size matters. Sorry if that hurts.
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I’ve always wondered if I got a tattoo what it would say, now I know.

[quote]whatsyourexcuse wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Size matters. Sorry if that hurts.
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I’ve always wondered if I got a tattoo what it would say, now I know.[/quote]

You’d have to be a big MFer to justify something like that, lol.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]whatsyourexcuse wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Size matters. Sorry if that hurts.
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I’ve always wondered if I got a tattoo what it would say, now I know.[/quote]

You’d have to be a big MFer to justify something like that, lol.[/quote]

Or a slut

OP: if your premise is that you could gain the same amount of limit strength over a given period whether eating to bulk or eating to cut, but that your muscle size gained would be different, then I’d say that your premise is flawed.

You’re not going to gain the same amount of limit strength given identical sets/reps with different amounts of food. If you eat more, you will get stronger faster, and if you eat less, you will get stronger slower if at all.

Powerlifters who train specifically for limit strength while trying to stay in a weight category have very different looking workouts than people trying to get bigger with no specific regard to 1RM.

So this whole thread sucks.

I benched 245 14 times (in one set) on Monday. True story, BBB rocks.

After reading this thread a second time, I’ve come to the conclusion that the internet saps common sense out of certain individuals, so to ask them to apply it online is pointless:

How does Forlife take Bantamrunner’s perfectly valid point about dieted-down bodybuilders not looking as big up-close as they do on stage, and turn it into a pro-slow bulk thread? Answers accepted on a postcard…

OK now even I’m tired of this thread lol, too much misinterpretation by some

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

Weren’t you done with the thread? I’ll give you one last shot at having a real discussion.

Explain how benching 115s proves that every guy posting about his 17 inch arms can do the same? Why do you keep making this personal? I never said you were in the group I’m talking about, nor do I care what you think about my own lifts.

My point is that people can have big measurements without being able to do big lifts. Girth can be due to fat as much as muscle. Are you disagreeing with this? [/quote]

What “people” are you referring to? I hate when I hear this “some people” bullshit. Who exactly are you talking about? Let’s hear some names. I popped in the 17" arm thread and was putting up 115 lbs dumbells on a low incline back in Feb pre-surgery. I’m now 16.5" and doing 105’s.

I work out in a few different gyms. 90% of the time I see a guy smaller (yet more rippppped) than me put the same weight on the bench that I use, he’s going to do partial reps or his spotters going to have a nice upright row session. 90% of the time a noticeably bigger guy sets up on bench, he out-lifts me.[/quote]

I would also like to see a video of a 15 inch arm curl the 75’s with “good form”

Not saying it isn’t possible, but it has been driving me nuts all weekend.[/quote]

Not exact, but I remember making a mental note when I hit 14-14.5in arms that I curled 65’s for 8, but those were pinwheel curls, which admittedly lend themselves to loose form. Did supinating curls with the 55’s for about the same reps.

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

Not exact, but I remember making a mental note when I hit 14-14.5in arms that I curled 65’s for 8, but those were pinwheel curls, which admittedly lend themselves to loose form. Did supinating curls with the 55’s for about the same reps.
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Pic or videos, else didn’t happen dog, sorry…

Because even those numbers sound borderline bullshit.

No offense, just being honest.

I don’t think that’s really all that much with pinwheels. I do seem to be able to do a decent amount, as I usually don’t see people (in my gym) curling more than 40’s but yea. And like I mentioned that’s when I was smaller too.

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I don’t think that’s really all that much with pinwheels. I do seem to be able to do a decent amount, as I usually don’t see people (in my gym) curling more than 40’s but yea. And like I mentioned that’s when I was smaller too. [/quote]

Please. You have no pics posted and I have NEVER seen someone curling heavier than 60lbs dumbbells for reps with anything resembling decent form (even with cheating to a small degree) who didn’t have big arms (as in at least bigger than about 16").

Everyone is fucking Hercules over the internet.

I guess this is where someone tries to find one exception on youtube as if every gym goer with 15" arms is anywhere near capable of moving that much weight.

Dear Internet,

So much of this could be resolved with a few pictures - but that simple fact seems impossible for people to grasp.

Bodybuilding = a VISUAL sport. 1 picture is worth a thousand words - seriously.

Sincerly,

a fat guy with burger king arms. : )

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

a fat guy with burger king arms. : ) [/quote]

I prefer Wendy’s and no I can’t curl the 75’s with good form, all tri’s

why does he have to post pics, he doesn’t owe you anything

edit: pinwheel curls for 65 is not very much.

[quote]charlotte49er wrote:
why does he have to post pics, he doesn’t owe you anything

edit: pinwheel curls for 65 is not very much.[/quote]

Yes, that’s typically the excuse, right below “I don’t have a cellphone or camera”…

He actually does “owe” something. You can say he doesn’t, and he can say he doesn’t, but the fact of the matter is: If you’re going to brag about your lifts and physique, and take shots at other people, you should have the balls to post proof of your claims.

I mean, it befuddles me how people don’t get that - this whole “I don’t owe you anything” is insane. Oh, he doesn’t personally owe me, or any specific person anything, that much is true.

However, if you are going to make specific claims, particularly about something that is completely visual, you shouldn’t have a problem posting something. We won’t use the word “owe” - we’ll use the word “balls”. Have the balls to back up your mouth - it’s really that simple.

Personally, I couldn’t care less about it, I’m just making an observation. Somehow, the Internet has made people really believe that they can say anything they like, then refuse to back it up under some mythical Internet law of “I don’t owe you anything”. It just seems obvious to me.

[quote]charlotte49er wrote:
why does he have to post pics, he doesn’t owe you anything

edit: pinwheel curls for 65 is not very much.[/quote]

We’ve made an assertion that people with small arms (15 inches) can’t curl heavy weight (75 pounds). Pumped has asserted otherwise (not the exact terms). The burden of proof is on him.

And even if they’re just pinwheel curls (which I realize are not nearly as difficult as regular alternating dumbbell curls), pumped should still have some pretty decent sized forearms to be using 65 pounds.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

Not exact, but I remember making a mental note when I hit 14-14.5in arms that I curled 65’s for 8, but those were pinwheel curls, which admittedly lend themselves to loose form. Did supinating curls with the 55’s for about the same reps.
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Pic or videos, else didn’t happen dog, sorry…

Because even those numbers sound borderline bullshit.

No offense, just being honest.

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QFT - I know I’ve got decent guns and I just got through curling 40/45lbs. Are we talking strict form or swing for the fence?

^Decent form. That doesn’t mean back against the wall but it doesn’t mean swing for the fence, either.

Well If Pumped is doing 75lbers I feel like the bitch being slapped in my avatar.

But somehow, I don’t believe it.

Pumped - Pics or STFU

Pumped, how big are your arms now and how much are you curling?

re: pinwheel form

Curious, are these acceptable? (this is not me, btw)

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I don’t think that’s really all that much with pinwheels. I do seem to be able to do a decent amount, as I usually don’t see people (in my gym) curling more than 40’s but yea. And like I mentioned that’s when I was smaller too. [/quote]

Please. You have no pics posted and I have NEVER seen someone curling heavier than 60lbs dumbbells for reps with anything resembling decent form (even with cheating to a small degree) who didn’t have big arms (as in at least bigger than about 16").

Everyone is fucking Hercules over the internet.

I guess this is where someone tries to find one exception on youtube as if every gym goer with 15" arms is anywhere near capable of moving that much weight.[/quote]

lmao and you think I have the goal to randomly point out a fake number for how much I can curl? I mean I know that will impress everything and I’ll get tons of internet respect, which is really what I live for, but no.

For comparison, my pinwheel curls (with 60’s ) at the time were considerably “better form” than this Max-OT Training Pinwheel Curls 125x6 Reps 2nd Set - YouTube
Probably closer to this: Pinwheel Curls 60x13 or 14 (not all shown) 6-11-8 part one - YouTube but brought up higher.