‘turkey wurkey’, I’ve read alot about fasting outside of the bodybuilding buzz, and I think when you detox your cells they release toxins into your bloodstream, lymph and then flush them out via kidneys (urine), defecating, sweating, etc…but it doesn’t necessarily mean you will do these things more just that when you do that’s where the toxins ‘leave’. Now, although I do love the concept behind this diet, I haven’t had the best results with it, and I can’t really figure out why! I follow the diet religiously, fasting during the day, workout on an empty stomach, low-glycemic meal to break the fast (protein shake with flax oil, or traditional dinner w/salad and mostly protein)…is anyone else out there failing at burning fat on this diet like I am???
I too got excited about trying this diet, but I found it to be less than fruitful as well. My problems were as follows: You starve yourself during the day or you eat just a little protein to detox your body. Technically, this should work well without allowing muscle to be lost since that only seems to happen at the 48 hour fasting stage. Unfortunately, this didn’t seem to be the case for me. You gorge yourself with something “alive” raw vegetables and some beef or chicken or fish. Then you are to wait an hour or two and then you can eat whatever you want. That’s a bullshit statement. If anyone really believes that you can eat junk until your heart’s content, you are sorely mistaken. It sounds good because you’ve jumped over to the glucagon system, but for whatever reason, my body said no. Also, eating so much at one time seems to be tough on the gut. If a person honestly feels that eating 3-4000 calories in a sitting is healthier and holds more benefits than small meals because of a detox, hey be my guest. I’m not saying this diet won’t work and it may very well be a convenient way to get in the good stuff, but from my personal experience, it didn’t live up to the hype. I would be interested in giving the book a read to see what else is recommended. For the most part, I see this as the trend of the new millenium in Mind and Muscle Power: look back to our ancestors and see how they remained lean(at about 140lbs.) and how they were able to live so long(30-40yrs.). People get excited about these things. It’s new, it’s ancient and it has been used by “warriors”. We’re harnessing our instincts, we’re becoming one with our true warrior. Just don’t find that this diet isn’t effective and then stay on it because of all the blessings it receives from Ori. Technically, he has managed to make an old concept sound new. Congratulations, but again, beware of the hype machine.
Maclar, I had similar problems untill I did one thing…I upped my calories during my night time meal. Fat loss started smoothly after that. However, be careful not to increase too much, there is a balance you must achieve. Inch them up by about 2-300 calories at a time. Good Luck.
gmm, not only that, but I’m a college student, and I remember watching a video in anthropology class of these hunter/gatherer tribes in I think it was Africa, and there they were, after a hunt, DURING THE DAY, cooking meat and eating it, and eating some tuber paste made by the women! So to say that hunters/gatherers didn’t eat during the day doesn’t seem to me to hold up to what I’ve studied in college. (Not to mention that not all the hunter/gatherers I saw in action were ‘lean and mean’, some had pot bellys, etc.) Also I agree that you’re not able to pig out at night even if you had a low-glycemic meal a few hours earlier. JJ, how did you raise your calories? Did you eat more protein, or just pig out, what? I’m curious…being a full time student, this diet really appeals to me, guess I just need feedback from everyone to see if I can ‘adjust’ it.
I just started the Warrior Diet a few days ago and wanted to know how you can gain LBM with the diet recommending lots of Stims. Don’t Stimulants have a negative affect on gaining LBM? Also have any of you notice the “increase protein efficency” thing?
Hey, I’ve been reading up about the Warrior Diet and have read everything I can get my hands on. One question though, Is this diet mainly for shedding body fat? Or, Is it also good for gaining muscle? Let me know , please. Thanks ~Jay
Jason, I don’t think you’ll see significant muscle gains on this diet, unless you modified it to include a few protein shakes during the day…especially since Ori recommends working out on an empty stomach. I think this diet is more for a ‘GQ’ look rather than gaining muscle mass (for those whose bodies respond well to this eating program at least). On a personal note, I’ve been doing the Warrior diet for months now, and have been posting messages on this forum, hoping to find the ‘magic cure’ that will make this diet work for me, but, sadly, I think I’m opting out on the Warrior diet. It just hasn’t panned out for me, my body is saying ‘no way’. I haven’t lost ANY weight, and have been doing it religiously for months now! Not only that, but during the overeating phase I feel like total crap! I’m so stuffed that I can’t do homework, and I’m very cranky during the day because my body’s been running on empty, I’ve been in school all day, drinking copious amounts of coffee and crashing, etc…apparently, my body didn’t ‘switch over’ to the ‘glucagon system’. This diet really appealed to me because I’m a full time student and eating the six times a day plan is a real pain in the butt, but for some reason it just doesn’t work for me. Maybe I’ll wait for the book to come out (whenever the hell that is!!) and see if I’ve been missing something (but I doubt it). Anyone else experiencing the same thing as me???
I tried the Warrior, too, and I actually gained fat and lost muscle. The Metabolic Diet has worked much better as I’ve gained the muscle I lost on the Warrior back and lost 10 lbs. of fat in 5 wks.
AW, Whats The Metabolic Diet??? Where can I find it??? Thanks ~Jason
The metabolic diet is pretty much the same as the Anabolic diet. Only a little more updated I think. You will have to use a search engine to find the book .
I gave this diet an earnest try, but my body never adjusted to it. My liver turning into an endless reserve for glycogen never panned out. I would have a day or two when I didn’t crash, but more often than not, I crashed badly. Shakey hands, dizziness–all the things that are supposed to go away once you get used to it.
I actually got to speak to Ori personally. He called me after I sent him a letter (very nice of him). He really didn't have much insight to offer me. It seemed like he wanted me to buy his book, rather than reveal his secrets. At his suggestion, I even wrote an article that chronicled my experiences on the diet. I don't think he printed it, but then again, I lost interest in the diet after three months of enthusiastic adherence, so I haven't read any of the susequent issues of the mag to find out.
I lost a lot of fat in the beginning, but since then, I have had better results on a low GI diet. I could not lose fat beyond a certain point on the Warrior Diet. Paradoxically, I lost more fat (while gaining or maintaining muscle) when I started eating more regularly.
I roughly follow the guidelines of Dr. Michel Montignac, who wrote a popular weight-loss book in Europe, but with a body building twist. I eat much more often and much more protein.
I finally feel like my body is thriving. I’m not saying the diet won’t work for you. It didn’t work for me. I personally would not bother buying the book, if or when it comes out. If a diet is instinctual, why would you need a book? I think Ori recognizes the lucrative potential of writing a diet book. I think it is a mistake to think that reading the book can reveal some secret to making it work if it did not work for you to this point.
Perhaps, for those of you who have had good results, you can find ways to make it work a little bit better.
Just my two cents.
Hyok…I think there are more people than not that are just like you and I, and have had a negative experience with the Warrior Diet. Like I said in a previous post, I have seen evidence to the contrary that warriors or hunters/gatherers only ate at night…this is total nonsense. I understand what Ori is trying to do (make a good living), but I think it’s wiser to make a fortune patiently, instead of making wild diet suggestions. And I sure didn’t appreciate the incredibly stupid ad that I got from his mag that was trying to sell me some herb that promised to grow my penis! Talk about insulting to my intelligence…
Hey mclar, you got that ad too? I didn’t know that was from M&M Power. I got something in the mail for some supplement called LONGitude (or was it LONGevity). It had the requisite androgenic ingredients such as maca, avena sativa, tribulus. It was supposed to increase your penis size permanently and it had a money back guarantee. I was about to dismiss it, but I thought about how women grow huge clits by taking steroids and those changes are permanent and…nah, it can’t work. And to think, I thought that ad was tailored to my own unique needs 
Hmmm…interesting, Mind&Muscle Power magazine, only 11 months into publication, isn’t in business anymore! Called the mag about my November issue and got that bit of news. Guess the Warrior Diet book is out too???