Jeff,
It would be interesting to try if you can sleep with headphones on!
Neil
I have a friend who did hypnosis for similiar sleep disturbance and she had really good results with it. I think she said she did 2 sessions.
I’m amazed that some people have trouble getting out of bed in the morning!!
Seriously the best approach seems to be to get some water down you and keep moving i.e. don’t sit down and veg out in front of the TV as even the inane shit starts to be interesting!
I’ve always been an early riser (in both senses) so maybe my moneys worth isn’t too beneficial. Beni, the girls do make it much easier to rise in the morning but they’re all on stupid student holiday at the mo.
I’ve always had trouble falling to sleep though and the people who do also should try this technique, when you are in the weights room most people will either grunt or tap themselves somewhere to get ready for the lift so i tried the same approach to sleep by buying some cheap earplugs and associating putting them in as the trigger for me to go to sleep, didn’t work for the first week but after that i was out like a light, also 45mg zinc knocks me out cold too.
The original question was about being refreshed in the morning so i guess that I know that i got my nutrition right if i feel good when i wake up and when i got it wrong i feel all achey and shit.
I was looking at that site. The one frequency is supossed to make you alert. Wonder if that could help the “waking up problem”?
hey ~karma~ i used to love waking my ex up like that. just spread the legs and slip in. nice way to wake up too i think! hehe very fun!
One thing an old roomate of mine suggested for getting up in the morning is putting a birdfeeder right outside your window. This would especially work if your bed is right next to the window.
Those motherfuckers will wake you up without fail every morning at the crack of dawn… unless of course those bastard squirrels don’t get to the birdfood first and theres nothing left by morning.
Also, I’m currently trying to figure out a way of having an alarm go off every morning and have a bucket of water dump on your head. I doubt this’ll be beneficial when you’re trying to get back to sleep later on that day. But, hell, it’ll wake you up in an instant!
Karma, you weren’t supposed to share our secret. I mean geez, everyone knows I stay at your place, but they think I sleep on the couch. There goes my blown cover…
bigprl: Yeah! It was pretty crazy coming home and finding a notice about my “intimate noises” on my door. The part that gave me the biggest kick was that it stated the hours of 12am to 2pm, and that complaints were received from several buildings. Sooo, I can make as much noise as I want between 2:01pm and 11:59pm? Cool! My neighbors can be right in the middle of their dinner and I can make all the noise I want!
Jollies: Sweet, isn’t it? Best part is he does all the work, we both get “ours”, he goes to work and I get to go back to sleep.
JWright: Damn, man… Sorry. Forgive me? Your cover’s not all that’s blown so you shouldn’t be complaining… 
hey ~karma~ one thing is that i wasn’t the only one to do that! she would wake me up by riding me! now thats a great way to wake up too if you ask me! 
bigprljamfan, some of us will have to wait much longer than midnight!
And ~karma~'s posting sexy pics on the “shopping” thread. I’m awake, now!
Jeff, bigprl, you guys think you got it bad???
Try having to wait til September.
~K~…
Apology accepted.
Your account has been updated.
“Learning and sex until rigor mortis”
~ Maggie Kuhn
JimMcD:
I guess you know that caffine, cheese, red wine etc etc. can be triggers. Log your food and see when they occure it could be something your eating…as you well know. Log other activities as well. I’m assuming you’ve done this. I know how bad migraines can be. 
Something else you may want to look into is accupuncture. I know I was thinking this is ca-ca. But I saw something on tv where this lady who used to get weekly migraines was migraine free for 3 years and counting afte acctupuncture. Of course finding the right person is key. Hope this helps. Ciao. 
We’ve all three done some form of elimination diet/food log, but could never come up with a strong cause/effect relationship. We did acupuncture with my older son and it helped some, but massage seems to work better for him. Something that has really helped both of them is Botox, but being kids they seem to metabolize the toxin away faster than adults do. They are both on migraine preventives now with kind of mixed results. Something that seems to have helped me is the ACE inhibitor I’m taking for my borderline blood pressure. It keeps my bp pretty freaking low, and I think it makes me sleep deeply. When I get up to pee during the night, I have to be be really careful not to fall down. And to bring it back around to the topic, I wake up feeling like I was sleeping in a tomb but after 10-15 I feel great…with or without coffee.
Thanks for the concern, Arcane.
Jim:
Sorry I couldn’t be of more help. But to be honest with you sounds like you know far more than me. And with due reason…Unfortunately so. However a few more suggestions maybe something you over looked. Have you tried different acctupuncturiests? Possibly some are more proficient than others? I know with ART therapy one specialist I went to didn’t do much of anything for me. Hey…have you tried ART since you massage helped your one son? Been to any “headache clinics”? I’m betting it’s something stupid. Not to make light of your condition at all…but often times it’s that little thing that is hiding in plain sight. Lastly and this is just something I’ve thought of now…maybe it’s not something you’re eating but something that you’re not eating. And by that I mean you might have a deficiency that could be causing the problem. For example deficient in vitamin/mineral “X” causes upset of hormone “X1” that equals headache. I know I simplified that alot but I think you get the idea. I know Charles Poliquin’s heart problems in his family were due to a magnisium deficiency. It was fatal to 5 or so of his brothers. Maybe you could get tested to see if you have any deficiencies. While you’re at it getting your hormone levels tested couldn’t hurt. I know there is a place that you can get your levels of vitamine/minerals tested(just dont’ know where…forum help please). Your doctor should be able to get various hormone levels tested. I realize I’m going out on a huge limb here…but unless your paying for all of it…I think it’s worth a shot. Hell with a migraine I would beat up an old lady to get ride of the pain…Okay I’m kidding. Okay maybe an evil old lady.
OK, so here’s my question. You’ve been dormant all night, someone flips you over and bones you, and you aren’t sore after that? I mean, how does that work? Isn’t there some prerequisite of lubrication?
Please explain. You can use pictures.
Jolly: Well, yeah, it’s not just a one way street. But believe me, at 5 in the morning my ass is not about to cowboy up. Let me sleep till 7 or 8 or so and it’s all another story…
Bigpearl: I just laughed… and framed it. Not gonna bother getting confrontational on something so silly. Had they actually tried to charge me with disturbing the peace or some formal deal, that’d be one thing. But a silly letter? Nah. Not worth my bother.
Cake: I’ll be checking that balance later…
Nephorm: Aah, how to explain the lubrication issue… Well, my first choice was to illustrate with pictures but we all know the mods would never allow such a thing. Next I thought I could draw a diagram, but my artistic skills suck worse than a 3 year old’s. So, I’ll just have to explain. Basically, I’m one of those lucky chickies that never has to worry much about lubrication. A sexy glance, a half cocky smile, a good firm handshake … I’m good to go. Now, in the whole 5am situation I’m asleep and the above things don’t usually happen when someone’s sleeping; so a snuggle, a smooch or two on the neck and a tug on my hips to get me into position is pretty much what it takes to get me flowing. Sore? Only if I’m still a tad sore from the previous night’s antics. But that usually only happens on marathon weekends. Make sense?
I really don’t want to get in the way of any illustrated responses to Nephorm’s question but…
Arcane: My kids both see a neurologist at the headache clinic at the university hospital, so that angle is covered. If I listed all the other things we’ve tried, I’d for sure need a separate thread. We spent a lot of time (years) trying to find that “one thing” that would make all the difference, but the condition – particularly with my older son – is described as “multifactorial.” I’m going to check out the only ART guy in our area for some other problems I’m having (again, could be a different thread), and I’ll discuss the headache situation with him.
Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion on the mechanics of morning sex. (One of those topics where you love to see the women’s answers, even tho you already know them.)
Hi Jim,
I also get migraines. One trigger for me is a change in barametric pressure. I actually take a low dose of effexor now and it has been a tremendous help. I have only had one headache in the last three months.
~KARMA~, ~KARMA~, ~KARMA~…
Bonus points were missed for failure to mention…
“…ass propped in the air, WHAM!.. BAM!..” As he yodels his version of “Unchained Melody” interspersed with the humming of the chorus from “My Ding-a-Ling” by Chuck Berry…
…My Ding-A-Ling My Ding-A-Ling won’t you play with My Ding-A-Ling
My Ding-A-Ling My Ding-A-Ling won’t you play with My Ding-A-Ling…
Also, mention of the timesaving technique of eating Eggos waffles dripping with Aunt Jemima syrup from the small of your back to ensure a timely departure for work would have made a triple bonus score available to you.
Keeping secrets helps no one ~K~, I hope you have learned your lesson…Try not to be so sexually uptight and secretive, your inability to share and explore your sexuality saddens me.
“But Evertime the bell would ring
You’d catch me playing with my ding-a-ling”
~ Chuck Berry