Vonko1988 TRT Log

trt fanatics like you just reject problems which may occur due to testosterone usage. you only tell positive lies how amazing TRT is. Its mostly in theory

In practice I only see people having problems on TRT. Libido diappears, depression stays with them, fatigue, ED…

I will charge you for the show :smiley:

Are you serious? Have you gone mad? This is the best you’ve got?

Have you ever seen a study where they administered testosterone to a group of men and then assessed them for benefits after a few days? No. Why? Because that would be ridiculous. What they actually DO is wait 6-8 weeks in virtually every one of those studies. Why? Because THAT’S how long it takes for testosterone to exert an effect.

But please, send me another challenge. You haven’t replied to any of mine so far. Please.

looks like you’ve steroid rage. its a side-effect !

Dude, its 11 PM here and I dont have time for your bulshit. I will read a book and go to sleep. Go do your challenges alone :smiley:

docs recommend blood thinners or blood donation. i dont know why healthy guy needs thick blood

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Check this thread out - Beginning TRT, How Long to See Physical Gains? - #3 by NH_Watts

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I’m quite familiar with that study. Go research it properly and go see the men that were used for this study. You’ll find it online rather quickly. They were primarily obese men with diabetes and cardiovascular disease, and the fact they were obese which is why they had low testosterone to begin with. They gave testosterone to these men, who suddenly had more energy and felt better, started exercising and having sex, with their bodies being completely unprepared for the higher levels of activity, and they had strokes and heart attacks. It was NOT the testosterone that caused the strokes and heart attacks. It was the poor state of health these men were in who suddenly began to do too much activity.

Don’t take my word for it. Go look it up! I did an entire video on our YT channel on this EXACT study! It’s a nonsense, bs study.

Thicker blood provides increased performance. This is why men benefit from added performance while on TRT. You do NOT need to donate blood on TRT. If your doc says you need to, run away and find a new doc. Or at least ask him if he knows the difference between Erythrocytosis (safe) and Polycythemia Vera (dangerous). One does not cause the other. Blood thinners may be advised for men in very poor health with cardiovascular disease. There is a difference. I’m talking about healthy men on TRT who eat well and exercise.

Get your facts straight.

Does that study say whether the men tested were on testosterone only or were they taking an AI or other things too?

What happens after 2 years?

No, I have idiot, ignorant, troll rage for people like you who ruin forums like these. There’s a difference.

That’s the other thing @bcostigan41. You’ll never find a medical study where they raised testosterone (which also raises estrogen) and state that they used an AI to control it. It’s never been done in any study, ever. All of this was taken from the bodybuilding world. The bodybuilders taught the regular guys about testosterone, more so than doctors, but included the AI part thinking that even lower physiological doses would require it. We know better now. This science will continue to evolve over time. Remember when Chrysin was a thing for blocking estrogen?

why i have chest pain, brain fog, anxiety on your shitty testosterone ?

your lovely testosterone didn’t prevent Dr. Crisler’s heart attack

If it is bullshit, why do you watch every single video I do on the YT channel and comment underneath? Clearly you haven’t learned a thing.

My shitty testosterone? Am I your doctor? Do you have any idea as to how many reasons there are for this to occur? Did you even bother to share your protocol? What compounds you were using? Your age, state of health, diet, stress levels, anything?

Crisler hung himself due to clinical depression you moron. It had nothing to do with testosterone.

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Omnadren 250 (clone of Sustanon 250). 1 shitty injection

Crisler HAD a heart attack BEFORE he hung himself. check your facts

How many questions did I ask there? This is all you have to offer?

How are you able to demonstrate that the heart attack was the result of testosterone? Do you have any idea how many people I know on testosterone, including myself? Where are all the heart attacks?

i know about many deaths at least on steroids.

Testosterone didn’t prevent Crisler’s heart attack in any case