Wow Danny you have just turned into a bully. I thought you were a busy man. Yet you waste your time busting his balls over and over.
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lol i see vonko the great trt philosopher is at it again . 
there really should be a sticky , "DO NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM VONKO !!! "
I cringe when he chimes in with advice on posts
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How about instead of bullying Vonko, we engage in respectful debate. Most people learn over time if you show them respect.
TBH, I donāt know why anyone would listen to you after disparaging people with mental health issues. Saying if they are on meds they are addicts, while you yourself are on trt to improve your life. You know many would say you just want legal steroids. Doesnāt that seem a bit inconsistent?
Just to be clear, I think Vonko says a lot of unsupported silly things. That doesnāt mean each time he posts Iām just going to call him an idiot. Iāll say why he is wrong respectfully. If we canāt agree, it is up to the readers to determine who made a better case. Insults turn new readers away from T-Nation.
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When I first started on this board I was annoyed very easily, but then i quickly realized people donāt know what they donāt know.
A mindful and positive helpful attitude goes a long way. Even if people wonāt listen. I just donāt care any more. When they are sick and tired of being sick and tired Iāll be there to give them the help i have found to be based in actual science .
Iāve managed to help more people by being a gentlemen with them than not.
Until then take the bro science approach and ruin your health or stay a mess.
Well said mnben87
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Thereās the real point. Nobody is convincing Vonko of anything. But, maybe someone else reads the post and gets good info and you helped someone.
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Respectful debate is when you say something that I donāt agree with and I provide evidence as to why I believe it to wrong. Evidence that demonstrates it to be wrong. When I, in turn, ask you for evidence that supports your own position, and you refuse and deflect and insult, that isnāt respectful debate. Thatās being an ignorant fool. Precisely the reason heās not here for a week. Back up your claims when asked. If you have no evidence admit you have no evidence and that it is merely your opinion. Donāt be like Vonko. Iāve had plenty of respectful debates with plenty of guys here who can actually back up what they are saying so that it isnāt just an opinion.
It has gotten to the point when if a sentence begins with āIā the debate button is a given. But itās fun to see blood on the mat every single time, no matter whose it is.
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Your sentence just started with an I. Just sayinā lol
Fuck!
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Thatās like tagging middleages with the middle ages. Mind blown.
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No , thats whats wrong with the world is theres too many weak minded ppl and everyone gets a trophy . Kids arnt beat like they used to be thats why theres the killings , prison overpopulation etc ā¦ya want to be nice to everyone the world will suffer . Its a choice to be a fucking idiot and vonko chooses it so fuck him . and as far as the mental health issues , i believe in certain mental health issues stuff that i can phsyically see , you want to claim anxiety and boo hoo me . Fuck that have some self strength , plan out your day , your week . quit being a fat ass and get some confidence . But no the worl and medical field says take these pills , what did ppl do 200 years ago who were depressed or had anxiety ā¦??? Oh thats rite there was maybe a few cause the rest werent fucking little babies that complained about everything . GROW A SET OF NUTS AND STOP CRYING
Youāre beginning to sound like a Facebook wacko.
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No, whatās wrong with the world is people like you.
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I find it interesting that this thread is busier while Vonko is banned than when he is here posting on it.
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I thought most people were smart enough to understand the difference between a participation and a 1st place trophy.
That is one hell of an assertion that you canāt back up with evidence. I thought that was one of the things you donāt like about Vonko? Making claims that canāt be backed up.
You really think people being nice to everybody will make the world suffer? Some backwards ass shit there.
Idiot is a medical term for someone that has the mental capabilities of someone 2 or under. Mental retardation isnāt a choice.
What mental health issues can you physically see? You might want to look at that link I posted, because while you are probably not an idiot, you might be an actual moron (a person with the mental capability of a 12 y/o).
I get that you donāt understand a lot of things. Not understanding doesnāt make something not true. You come off as an ignorant person.
What did people do 200 years ago when they got low T? I guess they were not little babies about it like now, and grew a set. Maybe you shouldnāt be such a little bitch and deal with your low T the way they did 200 years ago.
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I understand your history with Vonko. Iāll still encourage you to stick to facts (you know what you are talking about). If the readers canāt determine which of you is better to listen to, I doubt they will get their TRT right anyways.
They were locked away, drugged, or killed. Itās ridiculous to say you believe in physical illness but not mental illness. And I doubt beating kids is going to keep them out of prison in the future
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I would say beating children leads to more of them being in prison. It is at least strongly correlated with anti social behaviors.
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I admire your passion for passing info along that might help others, even if I dont always agree with you. Itās people like you that force others to do their homework because youāre always so well prepared. You, generally, make this a more educated forum. Thanks for the effort you put in to helping all of us.
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