Has your buddy had blood work using the same cream? Maybe let him try it and see what his levels look like on a blood test just to see if it’s possible bad? I’m really surprised you’re only getting those levels on 20% cream, 150mg/day for me had me at 1500+ and 39 free T so it was crazy strong stuff
He hasnt done yet blood work he will do shortly, but he reports he feels great on it.
I also heard other people claiming like you, but also heard people that like me dont absorb it
And for 10 days the cream should have built up, especially provided there were a lot from the injections remaining in the system, right?
On the other hand I tested myself with the cream maybe too long after the last application - in 8am and last application was 17.00 previous day, but I wanted to test myself at the lowest
Yeah I would have expected higher than that for sure. My values were at peak so obviously that is different but I still would have expected it to be higher. Seeing your buddy’s blood test results will hopefully help answer whether it’s you or the product isn’t quite right
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Yep. On the other hand I know at least a few other people using this cream. Some of them reach levels of 1600 ng/dl at 250mg daily 5 hours after application
Maybe, you need to let it dry to be absorbed well.
I doubt it.
Yes. Your labs will prove it.
Good move. You don’t need a lot of fancy exercises and programs.
Wow how is that possible?
I don’t know. I know studies have shown levels to be fine with sq, but I know guys who tried it and claim it did not work as well as IM. I never have and no patients use sq with me, but some have in the past and found it was not successful for them.
That was not my question.
My question was whether it is possible that for one person it works well and suddenly stops working so
Scrotal cream is extremely effective due to the area of application and the Alpha 5 reductase in the skin, which increases DHT.
How long after application did you test? It should be 4-5 hours. That’s when it peaks in the body. By 12-14 hours it’s dropped but not massively.
Biggest problem with cream is quality. So many folks will use cream and not fee great/ they use a good pharmacy or get a good batch and fee great. Cream is very easy to screw up in the lab. One batch could be good and another can be off.
2 clicks Am and 2 clicks Pm will raise levels into the 20s for majority of men. If not higher.
You give it six weeks. But that’s not enough. You have to pick a good dose and give it months on that same dose. Months…
If you keep levels above 20 for months and don’t feel better. I would try a little more. But you can’t because you get other symptoms.
The other option is thyroid. I haven’t re read your thread, but I’m curious if you have checked your free t3 and other levels. Sometimes T just doesn’t work great if the thyroid is in the shitter.
Honestly a good life style, T in the 20s and good sleep will show a change in well being around 3-4 months.
It gets better though over month 6 then a year.
I dont see reason giving the cream more time since it cannot get my levels up and this should hPpen within a week
Bro seems to me you havent read my post. Simply I cannot even get my levels up with anything lately
For the cream I know other guys buying it from the same place with great results
My first sentence was meant to answer your question. The rest was expanding on my experience with sq injections for TRT, which is minimal. Sorry, I don’t have an answer, but if it is no longer working, you’ll have to move to something else, and you have. Hope it works out.
If you have another bottle try that instead as well.
Also you said you felt great for 2-3 days. Then you had issues. So it works.
Something else is going on here.
Also you didn’t answer the “how long after application did you get labs done?”.
What’s the base of the cream?
I felt great just after I stopped the injections and transferred to cream. I had 750 total test which is jot great, but not terrible. And seems the cream gave me a bit boost on top of that just because of its short half life but it seems on its own it cannot get my levels up
Yep thanks. The funny thing is initially sub q worked well. And on one of the protocols I tried IM and it was like I was absorbing worse and the post injection pain was terrible. Im not sure if that might be cause Im not very lean and used 29g for shallow IM
Seems cream doesnt work for me and sub q stopped raising my levels enough.
Ao what I plan to do now - get longer needles 3/4 inches 27g and start every other day instead of every day in deltoids and ventrigluteal. I use sustanon, not cypionate. All my buddies here on TRT use this protocol and are very happy with it.
If you really just want higher levels, why not stop with the daily stuff and take 200mg at a time and see what happens. If your levels don’t go up a few days after that then something is wrong with the T you’re using
Or do similar with the cream. Do 2x as much and measure a few hours later. Most cream lab values are at peak anyways and that would at least prove that it CAN increase your levels.
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How long after you took the cream did you test it man. third time asking. Cream taht is made right will raise your levels much higher than 200mg of T. 2 clicks am and 2 clicks pm will give just about anyman enough T to feel optimized.
Last taking of the cream was 17.00 I tested it 08:00 next morning, wanted to test it on the lowest
Well I want some stability after all, dont think 200mg sustanon at once will make me feel good 