Vonko1988 TRT Log

I can, but this COVID bulshit must end first. I must cross the border

I woudnt try this in my mind it would have more side effects

Not sure but very possible

Yeah I know it’s a pain. I hope the scaremongering will end soon, but I’m afraid we won’t back to where we were before a couple of years at least.

I hope you are not right and people realize how absurd it is. Lets wish success to Trump and his efforts I hope he wins this fight. All the world depends on that literally

I moved to NYC last year and I can tell you that people here either terribly dumb or completely brain washed. They believe whatever that criminal of Bill Gates says or whatever forecast that clown of Fauci do, despite being proven wrong throughout all of his life.
They still clap their hands every day at 7pm here, as to say thank you to their criminal governor who basically jail them home.

I don’t know what to expect with people like that.

I also feel aggressive towards the people that object against reopening, I mean ordinary people. WTF? The sheep like to stay in the shed?

Absolute lack of analytic ability, on top of still having their job. More than 30 millions of jobs burned out in 6 weeks in the US and they still claim this is absolutely necessary. Wait for them to lose their job and we’ll see.

In the meanwhile they look bad at me because I go around without a mask.
Absolutely hilarious.

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Lets hope the common sense wins over the stupidity the same way Trump threw out the models of Fauci and Bill Gates.
So you live in NY? How distorted are the numbers there? What I know for sure there is criminal mismanagement of the patients in the hospitals with suspected COVID

I can tell you for sure there’s a rush to get as much patients as possible to be labeled as dead by COVID-19, so they can take federal money. It’s been a constant fight between Trump and Cuomo (and De Blasio), with the latter one crying like a baby every 2 seconds, saying that they were abandoned, no money left etc.

Still don’t know what they do with the huge amount of taxes we have to pay in this city.

@highpull I know you are experienced in this.
In your opinion are there influential differences between UGL and pharma cypionate provided the UGL is not fake and correctly dosed?

The one I use for example is very dark in color, like brown and smells strange(the previously used pharma sustanon was odorless.) The oil is grape seed

For the most part, I would say no, but maybe if the carrier oil used is not pharmaceutical grade. Some have reported reacting differently to the various types of oils. Over the years, I’ve used peanut, cottonseed, sesame, and grape seed oils. The grape seed seems less viscous.

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Grapeseed is very light every time I got it.

So maybe if I still have issues after 3 weeks I can assume I may be reacting to the oil. Hope the border to Serbia will open and I can get pharma enanthate from there.

Just give it time

Yep I guess now on the 3 weeks mark mu levels have fallen

If I do not get to feel well to this cyp up to week 7 I will assume Im not doing well with the product and shall go to Serbia for pharma enanthate. The border should be open hopefully. In fact I was going to do just that and the day I planned doing it they shut the city and then the border 2 months ago :frowning:

3 and a half weeks after I started the transfer.

I can feel now my levels are lower compared to what I maintained before switching the esters. Im much weaker at the gym and I also feel emotional and easily irritable. I feel a bit similar to pre TRT like going back in time.

Also it is funny a personal issue of mine from that time has chased me down

@dextermorgan I guess this is expected when going from sustanon to cypionate? I thougth with the overlapping Ive cheated the system, but seems there are things you cannot avoid and cyp ester takes longer to build up

@vonko1988
I don’t know truthfully. If I were you I’d go to the Pharma Section and search ā€œsustanon cypionateā€ and look for folks that started their cycle with one and switched to the other and see if there were any relevant remarks. That said, they are likely on a high enough dose that by the time the levels on one drop the other is kicking in but it’s worth a look.

I understand. I think the first 3 esters of sustanon are almost clear and cyp hasnt build up. Usually bodybuilding guys I know dont have such issues on 500mg+ and they usually go from longer to shorter ester

In Friday will be 4 weeks since I started cypionate(snd 5 days later I stopped the sustanon)

Still I dont feel very good. One day Im so-so OK like my good pre TRT days and the next day I feel shitty. Libido is ok, but not very good, energy is good, but anxiety is like pre-TRT most of the time.

I assume my levels havent build yet after all cypionate is a slow ester. It is a bit different compared to when I started sustanon initially and I started to feel better just 3-4 days after starting. I guess the short esters have been enough to get some benefit even initially when I still had natural t.

From the other side the fact I use UGL test might be why I dont feel so good and when I hit 7-8 weeks I will evaluate that. It might be from something else but I think Im getting some reactions from this test like stomach issues for example. Im not sure how injection can cause stomach issues, but when I was a kid I had similar allergic reaction to some medications I coudnt tolerate. So I assume either the oil or alcohol in this test can cause me issues.

If on week 8 I dont feel optimized I will switch to pharma enanthate, will see what options I will have because the closed borders make things complex. A friend of mine has 100 ampules from Iranian Pharma Enanthat and maybe for now this will be the only viable option, because Serbia where the best European enanthate is being sold is still closed…

@dextermorgan @enackers @appassionato how does that plan sound to you?