How do you think is possible to get a rush from cypionate on the same day? If I remember correctly officially it should peak after 30-40 hours
This would seem to say itās a little sooner than that, or at the very least day 1 vs day 2 is pretty much the same
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I can usually start to tell about 10 hours later. Especially on days where I inject IM delt in the morning and then do lateral raises that evening. Iāve gotten a serious rush a couple times that way.
By rush do you mean energy or pain in the muscles?
Interesting. So in certain individuals possible to peak in the same day as the injection? Where did you find this graph?
Now as I stop the sustanon should I expect serious drop in blood levels?
Feels like an adrenaline rush.
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I thought the long esters peak slowly. So it turns out they should peak quickly and drop slowly(on theory at least)?
Well you should be injecting a specific amount of mgās a week. Stick with what your protocol is. Injection days can be chill or they can be energetic. Its never a guarantee. The whole point of it is to have more good days than bad days. So try to let the program run in the background. Dont blame everything on TRT. I had a great day today even though all I did was work on my car, and rake up leaves on my property. I started out sluggish and next thing I know is Im busting my ass lifting rocks. Yesterday, my car failed emissions and my day was ruined. Im telling ya, It had nothing to do with TRT, but my mind did wander into that territory while driving back home. Snapped out of it and kept on living. The esthers shouldnt matter anymore. TestC is going to overlap if youre doing it EOD or ED.
I understand just I wanna understand also how exactly the compound works, how is its dynamics and kinetics. Im very interested in understanding these things because most docs have no idea of them
Well you inject it, and your muscles slowly allow the juice to be absorbed into the bloodstream. Depending on SHBG, you could end up excreting it at a faster rate than what is marketed as. So more frequent injections will not allow a roller coaster ride with the long esther. Youāre in constant power up mode. You should not rub or massage an IM shot, because it will cause it to work its way back up in to the fat layers making it subq. What you inject today wont make a physical and mental difference til next week or so, but it does stack on top of what you have had building up in your system, so it could give you a buzz and perhaps a boost. This may give you the impression that todays shot is responsible for today. It really isnt, but todayās shot is affecting what has been stacking up for days or weeks. Hope this makes sense.
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It does, thank you
I didnt know IM shouldnt be massaged. I massage it hard with anestetic alcohol because it hurts a bit as the liquid goes inside, hope this pain passes away with time
I had the same issue and the VG has been great for no pain injections. Hope you decide to give it another go.
I plan to rotate both VG with both shoulders for now. So tomorrow is right VG 
One very knowledgeable guy in a FB group mentioned the term virgin muscle in regards to this pain. Do you think the pain wherever can pass away after 2-3 weeks or something?
Enanthate and cypionate here seem very identical. As much as I know cypionate has half life of 6 days while enanthate 4.5 at least officially
I find if I havenāt injected a muscle for a long time or ever before it would be a little more painful the first and second shot. Maybe thatās the issue.
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Good to know thanks
I know the sleepiness you speak of. It affects me for up to half a day subq and a full day IM. I strongly believe its an allergic reaction to some component of the injection.
I do my shots before I sleep at night to mitigate this effect.
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Good to know Im not alone. Didnt it pass away with time?