Vonko1988 TRT Log

Looks good my man. Glad you’re feeling good

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What do you think of the elevated IGF-1? It was just above the range before TRT, now is more

The liver values you have listed look fine and your thyroid doesn’t look unbelievably low so I don’t know. Probably nothing to worry about. Mine was 190 last time I checked which was before TRT.

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But not very good either, right :smiley: I can ask the dr when we consult about some thyroid optimization maybe? Although before starting TRT he said not to do anything for now there

@vonko1988, in your shoes, I wouldn’t change my protocol for quite some time… Probably 6 months. Give this hugger levels of testosterone time to work its magic. In 6 months you should be feeling better than you feel now. Then you can assess and decide if you might want to try optimizing thyroid IF you have any remaining symptoms at that point.

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Thanks, sounds legit

What do you think of this IGF-1 and elevated Bilirubin? I think Im genetically predisposed somehow to have elevated bilirubin, I’ve measured such a few times but I could not understand why…

Are you still taking Caber?

Yes and prolactin increased on TRT

@vonko1988 guess how many times I’ve measured bilirubin?

Zero

IGF-1 will often go up when on TRT. So no surprise there.

You can do two things now:

  1. Keep running labs and test more and more things. Pick a number, any number, and obsess as to why that number is that number, and not some other number. Do this with lots of different numbers. Eventually you will go mad and find yourself locked in a padded room.

or

  1. Now that you have healthy levels of T and are feeling reasonably good, put a date in the calendar for 6 months from now to give the T the time to improve things even more in over the coming months. In 6 months assess if you still have symptoms or not and go from there. Until then, you can live your life without worry. Cool, right?

:wink:

@vonko1988
My bilirubin is the same as yours at 1.3 (top range 1.2)

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Hey now I don’t take an ai and I’m totally fine. Danny is Danny. He’s got a personality he blames on his genetics.

The fact is some are more harsh and critical and outright tell you what’s they think. While others are more calculated in their response.

I will agree that you are over thinking shit. It’s your life and I don’t care if you take my suggestion or not.

Just remember. The body produces these hormones. There shouldn’t be any symptoms once the body is used to it. Until then I wouldn’t Ofer analyze. I would enjoy life and carry on until one day you feel bloody fantastic.

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Agree thanks. I will ask the doctor end of month anyway. Until then will focus on living life and diet( I need to cut)

By the way just for information how high do you run your total test, free and estradiol?

I just know 150mg works for me. 100 Not as good. 50 not close. Ill be running my annual labs to see where my health is. More-importantly my lipids and other health markers. Im more interested in those values versus free t, estradiol and etc.

I continue on 20mg daily and 100ui HCG daily.
I feel very good and libido is top of the top.
The only remaining issues are the early morning wake ups some days. After I moved magnesium intake mid day they improved, but still have them.

At this protocol the last time I tested my total t was 1450, e2 80, free t 34ng/dl

@dbossa @dextermorgan @ncsugrad2002 @enackers do you think the night time wake ups can be due to the peaks of the short sustanon esters? I have option to buy enanthate from a neighboring country. Do you think its worthy suffering the transition to it?

Other option I’m offered to relieve my wake ups is to reduce dose but I fear loosing some of the benefits

You’d have to try it to find out. You’re better off sticking with what you’re at for 6 months and seeing what it does in the long run. How I felt at 3 months was very different than 6 months.

Im a bit worried for the sleep not to start getting some issues. I’ve had horrible insomnia issues 5-6 years ago.
Otherwise everything is awesome. Definetely prefer to have crap sleep and feel this way than how I felt pre TRT

Hey buddy I have one quick question.

What needles do you use? Fixed tip or not?

I’m trying the airlock method but I still loose around 2-3 units per injection and with 22.5mg daily I could get probably 8 injections per ampule which sucks as I should be getting 11. I use the removable needle syringe and I don’t have access to the low dead space that guys in the US are using.

I use fixed needles for injection(29G), but I draw with them only from a vial not from the ampule.
Ive transferred my ampules in vials before that. I do not do any calculation for how long my ampules last me.

The first month and two I wasted a lot of injections because when filling the insulin syringe with attached needle very often I’ve been bending the needle because of not doing it carefully

Do you account for waste when you draw for the vial?

Let’s say you inject 8 units totaling 20mg. Do you draw exactly 8 or you draw extra to account for wasteage?

I draw extra for the wastage, but I inject 20mg so I dont care because I cannot inject the waste it remains in the needle cap