Then we are talking about a whole different beast. I still think you should wait at least 6-8 weeks before you change the dose. But I understand you all too well as we all have the same way of thinking in the Balkans. A bit over thinkers and a bit hard headed lol.
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Thanks god we are not from the drinkers part of the population as well 
Yes, but you still use the same logic and problem solving to figure it out. Do a proper test like you do in IT. Change a variable, test, and assess. One thing at a time.
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Bro 140 a week is low. You will need to increase that soon. Your SHBG is higher and you donāt know your free t. I would of started at 200. SHBG is also not consistent. Maybe free t Nd higher or lower.
Iād rather get enough versus increasing until itās enough. Talk about hell.
I guess this will what needs to be done, but some people raise to very decent levels with such dosage especially when done daily.
One doctor prefers to start high and lower if needed like Nichols, and another prefers to start lower and go higher if needed.
Although not cool the second approach seems safer in terms of side effects and in fact what my doctor recommended me.
He said your dosage is between 20 and 30mg daily but better start on the low side
Personally, I feel you have to start somewhere. 140mg a week isnāt terrible, but you are already starting with a decent T level.
I started with 100mg a week with a TT of 251. That brought me to TT of 400. 120mg a week brought me to 550ish. At 140mg a week, I was around 676.
Then I introduced armour thyroid for hypothyroidism and thatās when things really started to āstickā. 6 months At 140mg, my TT was 1192, then 4 months at 147mg and TT at 1321.
Iām glad I was patient to start. If I started high and had bad symptoms, who knows - I might have reached for an AIā¦I surely wouldnāt have known what I know now and to be patient to wait for the symptoms to subsideā¦ And I know what I feel like at certain levels.
To each their own. Good luck in your journey, Iāll be following along hoping for the best for you.
With all due respect; Vonko is saying that his current testosterone levels are actually lower than the ones that he had before starting. If SHBG comes more or less in the same range, doesnāt it makes sense to increase the dose??. What Iām missing?. Why does he need to wait 2 or 3 weeks if he knows that his current levels are too low?
They are not lower, they are a bit higher. Before I started total t was 564, now is 676.
What I say is the increase so far is insignificant to resolve my symptoms from all points of view. But if they can increase more on the current dosage better wait. If they cannot increase more at this dosage - no point in waiting
What I missed is how 140mg per week brought you at 670s like Im now, and six months later on the same dosage - 1200. To be from the armour thyroid - it doesnt make sense to me
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Iām really interested in this as well !
I didnāt understand that part either
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I need some clarification because something makes no sense.
You JUST started TRT like whatā¦ 2 weeks ago? You already have had bloodtests done after 2 weeks on TRT? Huh?
Almost 3 and ye I like to know whats going on
@vonko1988 you want to do bloods 3 weeks in?
You will be in this forum for the rest of your life. Maybe TRT is not for you. You understanding of this subject matter is NIL.
You need a better source of information Vonko.
From Sustanon 250, 250mg/ml solution for injection - Summary of Product Characteristics (SmPC) - (emc)
Sustanon 250 is a solution in oil. Each ampoule contains 1 ml arachis oil containing the following active substances:
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30 mg Testosterone propionate
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60 mg Testosterone phenylpropionate
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60 mg Testosterone isocaproate
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100 mg Testosterone decanoate
All four components are esters of the natural hormone testosterone. The total amount of testosterone per ml is 176 mg.
Sustanon and Omnadren USED to be different, because Omnadren was a copy and couldnāt be exactly the same without infringing on the rights of patent for Sustanon. thatās old news and so is the difference, they are now identical. The notion that Omnadren has any special water retention properties is stupid, itās test and it acts like it. It also aromatizes significantly less in many people than a single ester, it did in my case.
Itās a suspension, not a solution. Keep that in mind. At 20 mg a day you get 2.4 mg of prop, all things being equal. Not enough to do anything. But all things in a suspension are not necessarily equal, there is no guarantee that the blend is uniform over multiple small draws, you could literally be getting a different dose of each ester in every shot you take, thus guys have problems with it in daily use. The prop is insufficient to do anything at all, btw.
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I said 3 weeks
This is another thing Ive been worried about since the beginning
A lot of worrying here.
TRT is not for you.
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Well Im already on board so I will find a way to make it work. I ways do
He only needed to wait 40-45 days to test and would of known his steady values. Or he tested it on peak and trough.